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I just finished disk 5 of Season 3, and Netflix says disk 6 is shipping today, so I'm hoping it gets here tomorrow and I can finish up the season before Season 4 launches! I didn't look at the link, but it's the 31st, right?
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I just finished all of season 3 in what was a really unhealthy amount of time. I can't wait for 4!
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they all worked fine on my end. Got me pretty excited for the episode. I think it might be a Hurley flashback.
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I watched season 3 in 2 days. I watched 29 episodes in 37 hours. (and 8 of those episodes were ones I had already watched).
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SPOILERS over season 3. - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - I think Naomi is a bad guy, and the Others are the good guys. - I think Ben is the man in the coffin. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
SPOILERS OVER
But yeah- I'm so freaking psyched!
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I'm excited to see in what fashion they bring the hobbit back. In the previews it didn't look like it was a flashback or on the island, so that leaves flash-forward and crazy dream sequence.
LOST stands for L-something O-something String Theory.
The island is probably the closest place inbetween the separate, looping, and slightly different, dimensions.
The Hobbit probably had something to do with the underwater station in another dimension, the creator was a musician.. The code song was 'Good Vibrations' String theory is based on the idea that there are tiny tiny little strings of existence that make up the universe, but they are vibrating, and each arch of those strings represents a separate dimension. - Good Vibrations, get it?
Locke probably made the station with the chess game.. Hugo probably made the Swan, cause he's the ugly duckling, and it had his numbers button..
Desmond isn't seeing the future, he's seeing the outcomes that have happened in the other dimensions.. no one can see the future, that's silly..
Jack and Kate probably left the island into a dimension that wasn't their original one. In this one, Jacks dad is alive still (I know the other argument.. I think they are trying to full us though) - And Kate's old love interest, connected to the old toy plane, is alive in this dimension as well. That's why she doesn't want to go back.
Ben is in the coffin. no doubt. I have explanations if you desire..
'Jacob' is either Jack, Locke, or Jack's father.. the reason you can only see him for a glimpse is because Jacob is too connected to the island and is split between all the different dimensions.
The two dead people they found in the cave are probably Jack and Kate.. maybe it's Locke and someone else though (remember how Jack pulled the black and white stones off that one corpse?)
Charlie will be back. But it will be a different Charlie.
Hugo's dead lady friend will be back too. She obviously has more connections to this island than she should.
Eyepatch will be back. Black lady will be back. They have been on the island so long they probably have amazing healing abilities or something.. They seem to have motives they are hiding from Ben.
Claire's baby will probably get separated from her, and he'll start to become the monster we heard about. That or we'll have two very different Claire babies in existence..
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Interesting theories, I hadn't really put that much thought into it, but it does make a lot of sense.
What are everyone's feelings on Charlie? I've never really liked his character, and was rather glad when he left.
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He always seemed like an irrational jerk to everyone. The peak of my disgust of him was when he assaulted Sun and helped Sawyer steal everything, just because of a dispute between him and Locke (Which was caused by Locke thwarting Charlie's attempts to take Claire's baby and irrational thoughts that Locke was trying to "steal" Claire from him). I had no respect for his character after that.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: Expect things to get weird.
Too late. They already have. I have enjoyed Lost up to this point (even during the much-maligned Season 2) but now I'm just annoyed. If I'd watched that season finale when it aired I doubt I'd be tuning in to Season 4 next week; the enthusiasm and curiosity would have died by now. However, I've got a certain momentum going now so I'll see what's up and if they can hook me back in.
But if this series ends in any sort of satisfying way I have to say I'll be surprised. Hope I'm wrong because it's been a great ride up till now.
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Things got weird a third of the way in to the first season.
Does J. J. Abrams do anything that's NOT "weird"? That's the only reason I fear Star Trek in his hands; ST is not supposed to be weird! I'm hoping he's enough of a trekkie fanboy to respect that.
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Actually, what went on last season has me way more interested in seeing this season than what happened in the season before that had me interested in seeing last season.
If that makes any sense.
We learned a lot last season. I'm really looking forward to this. Right now, I'm in the middle of rewatching last season's finale, so that it's fresh in my mind.
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quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: That's the only reason I fear Star Trek in his hands; ST is not supposed to be weird!
It's not like Star Trek ever featured little furry orbs that are "born pregnant", a bipedal sentient tyrannosaurus, a maternal slug that looks like burnt cheese and eats rocks, several dozen random alien worlds that contain an almost exact duplicate of an earlier Earthling culture, a giant screaming barrel that wants to talk to whales, telepathic outer space jellyfish, countless omnipotent races defeated by tricks a five year old could see through, and green-skinned alien strippers or anything! Posts: 6689 | Registered: Jan 2005
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Okay. I just rewatched the finale, just so that it'd be fresh in my mind. I don't buy everything in this post, but I can see how they may have gone back to a parallel universe that isn't the same as the one they came from. I mean, Jack seemed pretty clear that his father was alive, and we know that he died in the world Jack came from.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: LOST stands for L-something O-something String Theory.
I don't get this. "Lost" isn't a word used in the show. It's just the name of the show.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: The island is probably the closest place inbetween the separate, looping, and slightly different, dimensions.
The Hobbit probably had something to do with the underwater station in another dimension, the creator was a musician.. The code song was 'Good Vibrations'
Not sure why parallel Charlie would have used that, as opposed to You All, Everybody. But yeah, the way Bonnie said that it was programmed by a musician did seem to be significant. Maybe it was a parallel Charlie.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: String theory is based on the idea that there are tiny tiny little strings of existence that make up the universe, but they are vibrating, and each arch of those strings represents a separate dimension. - Good Vibrations, get it?
Eh. You don't need string theory for that. I mean, DC comics had their multiverse separated by vibrational frequency up until 1986.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: Locke probably made the station with the chess game.. Hugo probably made the Swan, cause he's the ugly duckling, and it had his numbers button..
Desmond isn't seeing the future, he's seeing the outcomes that have happened in the other dimensions.. no one can see the future, that's silly..
That's silly, but seeing other dimensions isn't? Still, you may have a point. The question would be, why is he seeing them?
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: Jack and Kate probably left the island into a dimension that wasn't their original one. In this one, Jacks dad is alive still (I know the other argument.. I think they are trying to full us though) - And Kate's old love interest, connected to the old toy plane, is alive in this dimension as well. That's why she doesn't want to go back.
Ben is in the coffin. no doubt. I have explanations if you desire..
I wouldn't mind hearing your reasoning. The guy in the coffin had a last name like Latham. I checked again tonight. It certainly ended with "atham". Ben's last name was Linus. I wouldn't be surprised, however, to find that the guy in the coffin is Kate's father. The one she killed in her original universe.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: 'Jacob' is either Jack, Locke, or Jack's father..
Why Jack's father? Where do you get Jacob from Christian? I suspect Jacob is someone we haven't met yet.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: The two dead people they found in the cave are probably Jack and Kate.. maybe it's Locke and someone else though (remember how Jack pulled the black and white stones off that one corpse?)
What would black and white stones mean? It'd be really interesting if those were Jack and Kate, but why?
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: Charlie will be back. But it will be a different Charlie.
You think it'll be the one who set the code?
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: Hugo's dead lady friend will be back too. She obviously has more connections to this island than she should.
Eyepatch will be back. Black lady will be back. They have been on the island so long they probably have amazing healing abilities or something..
If by "black lady" you mean Naomi, she wasn't on the island for very long at all. And if Mikhail had amazing healing abilities, why didn't his eye regenerate. I think you're off on this one.
quote:Originally posted by Pepek: Expect things to get weird.
Because they've been completely Brady Bunch up until now. Heh.
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quote:'Jacob' is either Jack, Locke, or Jack's father.. the reason you can only see him for a glimpse is because Jacob is too connected to the island and is split between all the different dimensions.
Not only do I disagree, but I don't even think Jacob is an actual person. I wrote up in last season's thread my thoughts on Jacob, i'll try to find them and repost.
quote:So the island has this weird electro-magnetic thing going right? And the shack that Ben takes Locke to was surrounded by some sort of sand or dirt or whatever that was(edit-apparently it's volcanic ash), which acts as some sort of barrier/protection which the power can't pass through. And Ben tells Locke that Jacob hates technology so there is nothing that produces any power(edit-in or around the shack). I think Ben has somehow captured part of the island, some of its essence. And that's why things start to go crazy when Locke flips on the flashlight. Jacob(or whatever) feeds off the energy from the flashlight and is able to use some of his(the island's power). That's why he says help me(edit-because Ben has captured him). At the beginning of all the shaking, before the image of a person is in the chair you see the chair empty rocking slightly. If you look closely there's black smoke in the chair, rocking with it.
I think the fact that we see black smoke in the chair *before* it manifests itself as a person is important and would indicate that Jacob is not a real person but the island manifested.
I don't know how likely it is that Ben was the man in the coffin. The odds of him leaving the island willingly are 0. But, *if* he was somehow forced to leave the island I can see him killing himself(the newspaper article seemed to indicate it was suicide) and it would fit with what Jack said about him being neither friend nor family and how Kate reacts about going to the funeral...and why no one came.
I loved Charlie and I was really sad to see him die. I actually yelled at the tv screen when he didn't even try to swim out of room after Michael blew open the window.
I'm not sure about all this alternative dimension talk, but time is obviously a very important aspect of the show. The torture room has that backwards dialog that repeats "only fools are enslaved by time and space". The man guarding room 23 was reading A Brief History of Time. Walt spoke backwards to Shannon. There may be another backwards dialog part but i'm not remembering now. Richard hasn't seemed to age at all in like 30 years. And Desmond is now able to see outside of time. This is all off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more too.
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We know that it's at least Jake, Kate, and Hurley. I suspect Micheal is one as well.
I'm also questioning weather anyone else is still alive in the future, since they haven't really confirmed this yet.
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I'm liking the alternate dimension theory. If the island is a wormhole and they broke through to another world or dimension, that would explain the crashed plane and the claims they were all dead. What if they are rescued by people from a different dimension and when they get back things are different? Jack's dad isn't dead, Kate isn't wanted for murder, etc? And they left people on the island. And the six that got back aren't supposed to be in that world? Great stuff.
I agree, tonight's episode was very good. Answered some stuff, raised more questions.
And I'm thinking it was Michael in the coffin. Not Ben.
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quote:I'm also questioning weather anyone else is still alive in the future, since they haven't really confirmed this yet.
by anyone else you mean excluding the Oceanic 6?
I think it's pretty obvious there are people alive. Charlie seemed to imply it strongly. But last season's finale also hinted at it strongly. Why would Jack be a wreck and trying his hardest to get back to the island if everyone else was dead or off? Obviously some crazy stuff happens between now and them getting off the island, i'm sure some people die, and some people stay(and are probably in bad conditions) and Jack blames himself as well as has savior complex. So it makes sense that he wants to go back to make things right.
I loved the episode. I love the twist that was thrown at us with Hurley saying "i should have stayed with you". We know the people coming aren't with Penny. We know they're not there to rescue the Losties. And we know some real messed up stuff happens. We know that to a certain degree Jack is wrong and Locke was right. So what happened to flip that around?
edit - Lisa, can you put a spoiler warning in the title so we can talk freely?
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quote:Originally posted by stihl1: And I'm thinking it was Michael in the coffin. Not Ben.
I'm not sure. The way the guy at the funeral asked Jack if he was a friend or family implied (didn't prove, but implied) that the dead guy was white.
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Oh Lord, I haven't seen any of this, and boy am I lost... (sorry about that).
Seriously though, thanks for the link to the "series 1-3 in 8 minutes and 15 seconds", it has really sparked my interest to see the lot from scratch.
That and Heroes, My Name is Earl, Eureka, Battlestar Galactica and a wealth of other series which I can't face to watch dubbed into spanish on terrestrial TV... See you in 2020 Posts: 892 | Registered: Oct 2006
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Did anyone watch the next show (Eli Stone) which was supposed to have a "commercial" from Oceanic Airlines? Was there anything of interest in that?
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quote:Originally posted by Uprooted: Did anyone watch the next show (Eli Stone) which was supposed to have a "commercial" from Oceanic Airlines? Was there anything of interest in that?
Two new viral websites for (I guess) a new ARG.
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quote:I think it's pretty obvious there are people alive. Charlie seemed to imply it strongly. But last season's finale also hinted at it strongly. Why would Jack be a wreck and trying his hardest to get back to the island if everyone else was dead or off? Obviously some crazy stuff happens between now and them getting off the island, i'm sure some people die, and some people stay(and are probably in bad conditions) and Jack blames himself as well as has savior complex. So it makes sense that he wants to go back to make things right.
That's assuming that this "Charlie" isn't just a figment of hurley's mind or a manifestation of the island trying to get Hurley back to the island.
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quote: Any theories on who the oceanic six are?
We know that it's at least Jake, Kate, and Hurley. I suspect Micheal is one as well.
Except that the Oceanic Six would be the ones the media covered. Michael isn't likely to have been one of those.
I'm thinking that Michael may not be off the island yet, and if he does reprise his role this season, it'll be either on the island in the present or off in the future.
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Did they ever explain the deal with the stewardess? How was she both on the plane and an Other?
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I can't believe Jack pulled that trigger!!! What's happened to him?
Also...did I miss a scene where all the Charlie and not Penny's boat stuff was explained to Jack and Kate? It seemed like they showed up, Jack and Locke fought, and then Hurley gave his speech, with no exposition.
quote:Did they ever explain the deal with the stewardess. How was she both on the plane and an Other?
She's not exactly an Other. She was one of the Losties taken at the beginning of the first season, along with the chldren by The Others. We thought they were dead for a while, but it turns out they've been living with The Others. We don't really know much more than that though.
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quote:Also...did I miss a scene where all the Charlie and not Penny's boat stuff was explained to Jack and Kate? It seemed like they showed up, Jack and Locke fought, and then Hurley gave his speech, with no exposition.
I thought the exact same thing.
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quote:Originally posted by MEC: That's assuming that this "Charlie" isn't just a figment of hurley's mind or a manifestation of the island trying to get Hurley back to the island.
Another patient at the mental hospital saw Charlie--"That guy is staring at you." Not exactly iron-clad proof of Charlie's existence outside of Hurley's mind, but let's not slip into solipsism so soon. My guess would be he's an echo or manifestation of Charlie mediated by the island's spooky powers, but not solely the island.
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Or maybe the dude who warned Hurley is ALSO all in Hurley's mind! Maybe the entire show is just a figment of Hurley's imagination! Posts: 8741 | Registered: Apr 2001
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Almost as bad as that comic book series about a boy whose parents were gunned down before his eyes when he was 10, then forever afterwards hallucinated he was a costumed vigilante beating criminals up!
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Maybe the people who rescued them were from a world in a different dimension, and the survivors are unhappy because they are out of synch with the world. Maybe the island is the wormhole, or more like a home base.
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