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I am wholly sure we must stop these cowardly attempts to sour the thread.
As an aside is it bad form to use italics or bold text to help readers catch the puns in one's post?
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Correction because it's the excess Calories that matter most inregard to weight-gain, Hamson's friend would be taking in 25% more excess Calories than the Supersize Me guy. And I made a couple of similar corrections on my previous posting cuz I messed up copying while calculating walking time, then made a logic-mistake inregard to running time.
Just to add on to Claudia Therese and ElJay's warnings... ...Hypercalcemia could also be induced and/or intensified by vitaminA poisoning and vitaminD poisoning beyond that caused by excess calcium alone. The liver can store a lot of fat-soluable vitamins. And that's where the excess intake goes at first. But when the storage space is filled up, or when the intake rate overwhelms the storage rate, things can go reallyBADreally fast.
Bones : Weakening due to increased Calcium withdrawal; increased porosity Blood : Increased Calcium and Phosphorus concentration Nervous System : Loss of appetite; headache; weakness; Excessive thirst; irritability. GastroIntestinal Tract : Constipation Excretory System : Increased excretion of Calcium in Urine, kidney stones; irreversible kidney damage. Tissues : Calcification of soft tissues (blood vessels, kidneys, heart, lungs, tissues around joints), and death. Blood vessels : plaque-deposition (which can make it easier for blood-clot formation to occur, which in turn could lead to stroke) Muscle : Cramping and weakness Skin : Jaundice Eyes : Jaundice, glaucoma (from increased blood pressure), temporary blindness, blindness
Then there is hypomagnesia and similar hypo____ induced by too high a ratio of calcium/phosphorus/etc to other vital minerals/etc. The thing about vitamin/mineral/salt intake is that it's all about balance: too much of one or some can cause severe depletions (or the same effect as severe depletions) in others.
Frankly, I think that the FDA would not allow any clinical trial study concerning such a high excess intake of milk for being much too dangerous for the amount of knowlege that could be gained.
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Ok, thanks for the medical advice. We knew drinking that much milk wouldn't be good for you, but since it can get that bad in theory, we'll tell him to stop. Death is not a good thing.
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Well, I finished and nothing bad happened to me.
I'd say that it is safe to do BUT i wouldn't advise it because its too time consuming and its not exactly "normally" clocked into your body.
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1) Many of the concerns people warned you about do not have immediate symptoms. Unless you had an MRI done since you pulled this stunt, or at least extensive blood work, I don't know how you can say you "dont have any internal impairments" with any degree of confidence.
2) Assuming you are correct, and you managed to do something stupid without any negative effects (which I am not convinced of), that does not make it safe in general. Not every single idiot who drives drunk ends up killing someone. That doesn't make drunk driving safe.
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I actually survived for several months during summer 2005 on basically nothing but raw goat milk/cheese/yogurt. I did eat ceviche on the weekends. I actually felt pretty good, overall, but it was raw milk from healthy animals, not pasteurized homogenized nastiness from animals on hormones and full-time antibiotics. The Masai of East Africa would drink, in some cases, a half-gallon or more of raw milk a day, and they had excellent health.
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Yeah rivka I'd say you're right on part 2. Not everyone would have the stomach capacity to pull it off. And they could end up very sick. However, maybe all those things people said COULD happen but honestly your body gets in a cycle and i doubt it absorbs all of the vitamins and minerals and stuff. I was going to the bathroom about once an hour like clockwork. that means the liquids were going through me in an hour ... thats not necessarily normal when you drink a glass of juice or anything.
Also, those things are worse case senarios. I didnt hear anything good that could come from this ... Examples: Very strong bones and teeth. Muscle during it or after the fact because i worked out. Cleansed bowels because of all the liquids. Everyone was so cynical and i had a pretty good idea of what i was getting myself into. Although i liked the part about the weight. I did in fact gain 10-15 pounds. I've lost about 5 but who knows how much turned to muscle. And i felt i was in need of a little weight gain anyway (i wasn't worried about it)
In the end i dont feel it was stupid. It was just a fun little bet for me to prove to all the "non-believers" and i knew what i was capable of. I knew i could down a 16oz glass of chocolate milk and not be full. Therefore i knew i could do it constantly with equal breaks inbetween each glass. And im still ok 2 weeks or so later.
*If you can't imagine yourself drinking this amount do not attempt it. Again I would not advise anyone to do this because it is not very fun once into it. You crave real food (i did eat a good balanced but small Dinner a day and breakfast[cereal]) and you can't really do anything for a week cuz u need a fridge and milk.
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Dude, you're desperate enough for attention that you not only pulled a stupid stunt that wasn't even fun, but you registered on an internet forum for apparently the sole purpose of arguing with people about it. Don't you have better things to do with your time?
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quote:I knew i could down a 16oz glass of chocolate milk and not be full. Therefore i knew i could do it constantly with equal breaks inbetween each glass.
You realize this doesn't actually logically follow, right?
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quote:Originally posted by Milkman08: that means the liquids were going through me in an hour ... thats not necessarily normal when you drink a glass of juice or anything.
Wanna bet? Better yet, how about you learn a bit more about how your digestive system works.
Considering that except for the weight, most of the realistic harmful effects (such as kidney or other organ damage) would have no immediate noticeable symptoms, I still don't know what makes you so sure you didn't do anything harmful to your body. Two weeks is nothing.
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I've attempted the milk challenge (a gallon in 1 hour).
I failed. Got about 3/4 through though. The thing is, it curdles when it hits the acid in your stomach, so it's not like you just have pure liquid floating around down there.
The vomit strongly resembles cottage cheese.
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quote:Originally posted by ElJay: Dude, you're desperate enough for attention that you not only pulled a stupid stunt that wasn't even fun, but you registered on an internet forum for apparently the sole purpose of arguing with people about it. Don't you have better things to do with your time?
Aren't you doing the same thing? Apparently you have nothing better to do. I wasn't arguing I was agreeing with him but also just saying what i went through. My purpose was not to argure, it was to say i was done and alive. I also don't think you understand that this was a bet made ONE YEAR ago. I haven't had time until then/now to actually do it. So if what i want to do with my time is something I THINK will be fun - to prove to everybody that it is POSSIBLE to do (because thats what the bet was) when everyone thinks it isnt - then you shouldn't be criticizing it. And i said that it wasn't fun WHILE i was doing it. It was fun in the sense that I proved that it was possible to do.
If you think it was a stupid stunt so be it but I knew what i was capable of and to me it was perfectly safe. I had a schedual layed out and everything. I thought it through. And as for time, it really doesnt take long to type anything in. NOW im argueing. Happy?
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quote:Originally posted by Milkman08: that means the liquids were going through me in an hour ... thats not necessarily normal when you drink a glass of juice or anything.
Wanna bet? Better yet, how about you learn a bit more about how your digestive system works.
Considering that except for the weight, most of the realistic harmful effects (such as kidney or other organ damage) would have no immediate noticeable symptoms, I still don't know what makes you so sure you didn't do anything harmful to your body. Two weeks is nothing.
So you are saying that 30 years from now when im about 50 I will get kidney failure out of nowhere from drinking a large amount of a nonharmful substance in a week when i was about 18. Considering how much people go out and consume alcohol on a daily or weekly basis in large quantities within a night and dont get anything more than a night near the toilet I'm pretty sure im safe. Something like organ damage would be pretty noticable. I dont think my body will all of a sudden one day in the future be like:
"ooo remember that milk you drank a few years back? yeah well the other organs and I just noticed it and we think we aren't going to function properly anymore."
Why would it take years for it to happen or for me to notice if everything is functioning properly right now 2 weeks after the fact? Are you a doctor? Do you know my body better than I do? I'm pretty sure I know how my digestive system works and I dont normally go to the bathroom an hour after i drink a glass of liquid. I eat cereal in the morning before school with like at least 16oz of milk added up and i don't go to the bathroom until shortly after lunch (5+ hours later) or until I get home (7+ hours later).
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quote:Originally posted by Milkman08: ... Considering how much people go out and consume alcohol on a daily or weekly basis in large quantities within a night ...
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Ummm, Milkman, who cares when you go to the bathroom? So what? That doesn't matter at all--it just means the water in the milk processes quickest. It's the other ingredients that your liver, kidneys and digestive system have to deal with that have the potential for harm like hypercalcemia. As a doctor pointed out earlier in the thread, so don't bother with the "are you a doctor" card.
quote:Originally posted by Milkman08: Considering that except for the weight, most of the realistic harmful effects (such as kidney or other organ damage) would have no immediate noticeable symptoms, I still don't know what makes you so sure you didn't do anything harmful to your body. Two weeks is nothing. So you are saying that 30 years from now when im about 50 I will get kidney failure out of nowhere from drinking a large amount of a nonharmful substance in a week when i was about 18.
Water is a "non-harmful substance", but drinking too much water can have serious, even fatal effects through messing with your electrolyte balance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
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