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fugu13
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The Japanese gov't has far more frequent bribery scandals than the gov'ts of most other developed nations, a few outliers such as Italy excepted. And that's in a country where it is socially preferred to hush up bribery scandals and just shuffle people out of office quietly.
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... He is himself a priest and has spoken about the impact that his apologizing has for victims. It is usually the first time someone for the Church has apologized.

Precisely. Whatever other disagreements I have with the Catholic Church, this is one policy(?) that I have great respect for. I think its a good idea.

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As a part of a group, I am not individually responsible for the actions of members of that group, but I am corporately responsible for the actions of that group, particularly if those actions were endorsed by the group as a whole.

Another example: I personally protested our invasion of Iraq, including participating in civil disobedience. That doesn't mean I can wash my hands of responsibility for our actions there.

Indeed. That is a less provocative way than I put it, but I fully agree.

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I do think that "you and your co-religionists killed Jews for sport" is misleading and inflammatory.
I don't know how misleading it is. Certainly no one thinks that The Rabbit personally killed Jews. But it is certainly incredibly inflammatory.

Luckily, "remotely" justifiable is a pretty low threshold to meet.

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Well, I mentioned Japan as a morally upstanding citizen of the International community respected by all whom I assume limit citizenship/immigration, Tom implied they were "evil and corrupt" which really really throws me off as if THEY'RE evil its like calling Claudia Theresa a vampire.
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I asked you a question of logic, not morality.

But apparently it's gone over your head. And since I have no interest in derailing this thread for the next 3 pages trying to walk you through it, I'll just chuckle and leave it there.

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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
Well, I mentioned Japan as a morally upstanding citizen of the International community respected by all whom I assume limit citizenship/immigration, Tom implied they were "evil and corrupt" which really really throws me off as if THEY'RE evil its like calling Claudia Theresa a vampire.

whoa whoa whoa there dude. You're completely missing his entire question.
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It is also worth pointing out that Japan's restrictions on immigration and citizenship are causing them a lot of domestic problems, even though they've been quite successful at keeping out the sorts of people they don't like.
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Hate to even keep this thread alive at this point, but since I was unavailable for most of its existence thus far, perhaps I should. There's lots of stuff through this thread than I would find unnecessarily inflammatory, accusatory, and ridiculously inconsiderate. I'm not sure if the thread can get past it -- if it reverts, I'll lock it.

If you (general) can discuss a topic without resorting to attack, feel free to discuss it. If you can't, please don't. And because communication in this medium loses a lot, please consider that hyperbole isn't always understood to be hyperbole, and even if it is that doesn't necessarily make it appropriate. Since there are people who have endeavored to make it clear that they mean what they say, even when it sounds hyperbolic, please consider that people may believe you mean exactly what you say.

--PJ

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quote:
Originally posted by Papa Janitor:
Hate to even keep this thread alive at this point, but since I was unavailable for most of its existence thus far, perhaps I should. There's lots of stuff through this thread than I would find unnecessarily inflammatory, accusatory, and ridiculously inconsiderate. I'm not sure if the thread can get past it -- if it reverts, I'll lock it.

If you (general) can discuss a topic without resorting to attack, feel free to discuss it. If you can't, please don't. And because communication in this medium loses a lot, please consider that hyperbole isn't always understood to be hyperbole, and even if it is that doesn't necessarily make it appropriate. Since there are people who have endeavored to make it clear that they mean what they say, even when it sounds hyperbolic, please consider that people may believe you mean exactly what you say.

--PJ

QFT. And I strongly doubt it was merely hyperbole.
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