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anthony1992
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I just started reading these books and got to # 4 Children of the Mind and found out that its supposed to be the 11th book.

Is this a bad thing or should I continue to Enders shadow? [Confused] [Dont Know]

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Raymond Arnold
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There are several sets of books:

The "Ender Series":

Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind

Then there's the "Bean Series"

Ender's Shadow
Shadow of the Hegemon
Shadow Puppets
Shadow of the Giant

"Ender in Exile", a random book that came later, despite coming between Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, actually makes more sense to read after you've read Shadow of the Giant.

There's another book called First Meetings, which I think is just an anthology of short stories about how particular characters met other characters. And there's a book called "War of Gifts" which from what I hear is dumb and you shouldn't read period.

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Lisa
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I start with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, personally, but I know people who prefer The Magician's Nephew.
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Raymond Arnold
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(In case it wasn't clear, you should read the Ender series in order, then the Bean series in order. Chronological order is less important than character arcs.)
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
I start with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, personally, but I know people who prefer The Magician's Nephew.

I'm one of those, actually. I read The Magician's Nephew first because it was among some books I think my stepmother had gotten at a yard sale.

And it's such a shame, btw, that the movies haven't lived up to expectations. I'm now doubting they'll make it to the one story that has the most potential for cinematic awesomeness.

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Dawn Treader, which is probably my favorite, is set to be released in December of this year, from what I can tell. This, and the Horse and His Boy, are probably the only ones left that I'd actually pay to see in theaters.
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Noemon
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The Dark is Rising is a much better place to start than Over Sea Under Stone, despite TDiR actually being the second book in the series.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
I start with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, personally, but I know people who prefer The Magician's Nephew.

I'm with you. I read the Pern books in publication order too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
The Dark is Rising is a much better place to start than Over Sea Under Stone, despite TDiR actually being the second book in the series.

I concur. [Wink]
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Wraong Cide!

Should probably change the title of the thread for "Order of book series" or something though.

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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
I start with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, personally, but I know people who prefer The Magician's Nephew.

I'm with you. I read the Pern books in publication order too.
I mostly do. I vaguely recall that Dragondrums came out after The White Dragon, but I read the whole Harper Hall trilogy between Dragonquest and the White Dragon. I'm not sure why, considering that it isn't really a trilogy.
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From a recent interview:

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Jo Walton: Did you write Dragon that way to make it impossible to read the [Dragaera] series in chronological order?

Steven Brust: Jo, I am a serious writer, attempting to explore the limits of my craft while expressing my observations on the human conditions by the interaction of form and content within the....

Um, yeah.


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For the most part, I vastly prefer written order to chronological order.

The only exception I can think of is the Vorkosigan series by Bujold. That should be read in chronological order, but that only affects the first few books in the series. She didn't go back and write prequels to her books like so many authors do.

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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
I start with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, personally, but I know people who prefer The Magician's Nephew.

I'm with you. I read the Pern books in publication order too.
Me, too.
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rivka
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
I mostly do. I vaguely recall that Dragondrums came out after The White Dragon, but I read the whole Harper Hall trilogy between Dragonquest and the White Dragon. I'm not sure why, considering that it isn't really a trilogy.

Oh, I clump each of the trilogies together. And I usually start with Harper Hall, because those were the ones I started with, the very first time.

So I guess that's not precisely publication order. But close!

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I would start with Matthew and read right up to Revelation before reading Genesis. Leviticus can be skipped entirely.
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
For the most part, I vastly prefer written order to chronological order.

The Fletch books and the Stainless Steel Rat books eventually go back to prequels, but I never read the prequels first.
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How do the Stainless Steel Rat books hold up? I liked 'em, but haven't read any of them (or any Harrison, actually) sinch high school.
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rivka
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They're fun. Not great literature, but definitely fun.

And I could swear we've had this conversation before.

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The Prince Capian movie was awesome.

And I read Chamber of Secrets and Prizoner of Azkaban before sorcerer's Stone.

PoA > SS > CoS (2nd worse in the series in front of Half Blood Prince)

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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
How do the Stainless Steel Rat books hold up? I liked 'em, but haven't read any of them (or any Harrison, actually) sinch high school.

I still like the first three the best.
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I read them all backwards. If they don't make sense by themselves, they are not worth reading.
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quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
The Dark is Rising is a much better place to start than Over Sea Under Stone, despite TDiR actually being the second book in the series.

I read OSUS and got about ten pages into TDiR before I stopped and lost interest. I'd like to get back into it though.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
How do the Stainless Steel Rat books hold up? I liked 'em, but haven't read any of them (or any Harrison, actually) sinch high school.

I still like the first three the best.
Definitely agreed.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
They're fun. Not great literature, but definitely fun.

And I could swear we've had this conversation before.

I remember the conversation also, I think it might have been years ago when I added Jimmy diGriz to my favorite character of all time thread.

I also will say the first three are great, the rest are alright.

I would also recommend The Jupiter Plague, the Death World trilogy, and To the Stars.

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