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katharina: You are doing a lot of good posting, don't sully the good stuff with posts like your last.
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One more interest statistic I gleaned from politifact.com. Comments that they find to be egregious lies, they rank as "pants on fire". I clicked on truthometer and looked at the 8 pages (160 statements) they ranked as "pants on fire". I counted 25 made by democrats or liberals, the remaining 135 came from conservative or republican sources.
I suspect there is all kinds of sampling bias here, but 5+ times as many egregious lies is pretty enormous.
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There all over the map. I think you'd get a better idea if go to their website and browse through.
They have detailed reports of their analysis. They seem to be pretty thorough and put in a good effort to chase down the facts.
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quote:Originally posted by Ace of Spades: Can you give us an example of what qualifies as "pants on fire"?
quote:Originally posted by JanitorBlade: katharina: You are doing a lot of good posting,
I'm not sure whether you are accusing JB of telling an egregious lie, or demonstrating how to tell an egregious lie by strip quoting.
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It involves removing your clothing and taking what people have said out of context...it's all the rage at college parties!
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Because George RR Martin's Russian accent may be as fake as the college transcripts that Jon Stewart is biased about in a tornado which is racist for not making jobs for teaparties.
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When it comes to choosing excellent sources, starting first with noting the bias guaruntees that you'll fail. Humans are absolutely crap at seeing their own motes. You'll give a pass to whomever agrees with you.
Pick level of detail, method, and lack of kindergarten behavior and navel-gazing. Ignore the slant. You'll be better for it all around.
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quote:Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_: It involves removing your clothing and taking what people have said out of context...it's all the rage at college parties!
If Model UN had been more like that, I might have continued with it in college.
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The guilty take the truth to be hard. It's not a surprise people get mad when they hear it. Sometimes really, really mad.
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I would consider the kindergarten baloney promulgated on television to not even be in the realm of political discourse. Political theatre, maybe. Political pantomime, definitely. Deciding which is "better" is just arguing the merits of various clowns.
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quote:Originally posted by katharina: The guilty take the truth to be hard. It's not a surprise people get mad when they hear it. Sometimes really, really mad.
The innocent also take lies to be hard. Distinguishing between the two situations can require some effort.
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quote:Originally posted by katharina: The guilty take the truth to be hard. It's not a surprise people get mad when they hear it. Sometimes really, really mad.
I don't think I've ever heard that bit from Nephi stated by anybody who wasn't trying to also excuse their bad behavior.
You aren't surrounded by the guilty, please stop assuming that that is the case.
Are there folks who are more liable to turn a blind eye to bad behavior on the left rather than the right, sure, I'll grant that. We certainly have people where the opposite is also true. Why do you keep baiting people into not acting like adults? Why do you want them to get angry and explode? Does it make you feel better to see others stripped down to bare emotion, blathering like animals?
I certainly don't enjoy it, and I don't think deep down you want that either.
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