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Aros
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I don't know, I the Fountainhead still affected me greatly in my late twenties. Ben Franklin's Autobiography was rather powerful in my mid thirties.
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Ben Franklin's Autobiography was rather powerful in my mid thirties.
Ditto.

In my 30s, interestingly, Bujold's Vorkosigan saga has had quite an impact about how I think about certain things.

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Such as? :: curious ::
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I think much of the argument in this thread presupposes a work of fiction must meet some criteria for being "great" to have an impact on a person, and that's certainly not true.
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quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
I think much of the argument in this thread presupposes a work of fiction must meet some criteria for being "great" to have an impact on a person, and that's certainly not true.

Twilight changed my life!
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And conversely I would certainly not use that as a basis to lay accusations of "greatness" against a book which I think most of us can agree is much closer to criminal.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Twilight changed my life!

Now you're not ashamed to sparkle publicly?
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quote:
Originally posted by Aros:
I don't know, I the Fountainhead still affected me greatly in my late twenties. Ben Franklin's Autobiography was rather powerful in my mid thirties.

Pity. At least it wasn't Atlas Shrugged.

Don't forget to read the mouse over.

[ May 03, 2012, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: The Rabbit ]

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quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
And conversely I would certainly not use that as a basis to lay accusations of "greatness" against a book which I think most of us can agree is much closer to criminal.

As much as I dislike the Twilight books, I feel pretty comfortable in saying that Twilight is closer to being a great book than to being criminal.

It is, at the very least, a book. And it has non-zero merit.

But the writing and publishing of it broke no laws that do or should exist. It is not criminal in the slightest.

[Smile]

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The Rabbit: Your link is not functional.

Edit:

Oh, mph. You so silly. [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Twilight changed my life!

Now you're not ashamed to sparkle publicly?
There's only one Twilight that sparkles, and she's a unicorn!
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Shall we corral you back into the Bronies thread?
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Twilight changed my life!

Now you're not ashamed to sparkle publicly?
There's only one Twilight that sparkles, and she's a unicorn!
That was awesome.
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quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
Shall we corral you back into the Bronies thread?

I already said my piece in there.

(Or should that be "peace"?)

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I honestly just wanted to make a pun there. [Big Grin]
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*cough*

I've only read the first Twilight book.

You know what?

It deserves more credit than it gets for being a legit vampire story. I find it unbelievable that people criticize the kinkiness of it: Edward's a 100 year old man hitting on a teenager, etc. It's a vampire story, vampire stories are supposed to sexually inappropriate.

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My issue with those books definitely has nothing to do with any alleged "kinkiness."
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Foust: It's more that Twilight is sort of billed as a wholesome Mormon-safe vampire story with no premarital sex and a loving relationship.

And then it still has stuff like a 100 year old man breaking into a teenager's room to watch her sleep, and then getting into a horrifically codependent relationship with her.

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Foust: It's more that Twilight is sort of billed as a wholesome Mormon-safe vampire story with no premarital sex and a loving relationship.

And then it still has stuff like a 100 year old man breaking into a teenager's room to watch her sleep, and then getting into a horrifically codependent relationship with her.

That disconnect between the marketing of the book and the actual book itself exists, and it is hilarious.

But yeah, the book does present itself as a wholesome love story. The fact that it is actually a skin-crawlingly creepy story makes the book more interesting, not less.

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But such a good role model for girls!
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Foust, you're reading more ironic depth into it than the author intended. [Smile]
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I doubt she intended for anything like "depth."
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So one measure of a book's greatness can be the ironic meaning a given reader brings to it? [Wink]
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Only if you're speaking ironically!
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quote:
Originally posted by Foust:
I doubt she intended for anything like "depth."

*cue porn music*
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