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Samprimary
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http://i.imgur.com/JmPA8.png
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Okay, that made me laugh.
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It's the bow on top of the veil that really sells it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Occasional:
liberalism is a mental disease; adolescent punks who never grow up past mommie and daddy issues who still beg for someone to pay for everything with the exclamation, "Its not FAIR!"

I'm certain the democratic institutions that evolved from the Liberal tradition will disagree with you.

Or are you some kind of proto fascist who feels that the state should hold all of the power and it was a mistake to grant black people the vote?

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Blayne, people like Occasional don't recognize any meaning of the word "liberal" beyond a direct synonym for "leftist" or maybe, if they're feeling saucy, "socialist." Sad but true.
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Don't listen to the haters occasional!! I trust in your future!!
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you are a .... houseguest of the chantry?
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
Blayne, people like Occasional don't recognize any meaning of the word "liberal" beyond a direct synonym for "leftist" or maybe, if they're feeling saucy, "socialist." Sad but true.

Depending on what you mean by "direct synonym", "liberal" does mean leftist. (Like "conservative" means "right-wing".)

The word "liberal" has different connotations now than it did back in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries.

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I once had a very interesting argument with a very interesting communist who pitched a berserker fit if americans on an american forum ever needed clarification with his use of liberal in the classical european sense.

of course he also pitched a berserker fit if we insinuated that north korea's official announcements should be trusted less than, say, the BBC, so

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Since I want absolutely nothing to do with you Samprimary, you aren't going to get any answers from your silly questions ever. And yes, I am a Troll. At this point trolling is the only worth I give to this sorry excuse for this message board. Orson Scott Card should be ashamed of himself for continuing support of the trash that infested itself here.
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Berserker fits-- you just have to have a good hide skill and patience. When they end, the barbarian is usually worse off, and you can attack them with impunity.

That's what I do!

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zerker exhaustion was a 3e joint, right?

That means the solution to berserker fits was the same as the solution to any other problem in third edition: be a caster class, render all other classes obsolete

in conclusion: DPRK fanboys are playing dud classes, and third edition is terrible.

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Occasional: I strongly recommend you backpedal from embracing that sort of role. Attacking the board and its proprietor are pretty much the fastest route to being suspended and banned. Please calm down.

Samprimary: Please don't bait Occasional. You may think his ideas are worth mocking, but it's not OK to post things to that effect here.

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why am I told not to bait occasional on like the one occasion I am passing up on baiting occasional and am instead talking about third edition dungeons and dragons
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Sam: I'm doing it here because after thinking about it, I should have said something sooner but did not. Occasional got mad here, so I posted here.
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i mean if anything occasional is not a melee class, he is more like a non-pathfinder hybrid suffering from MAD.

Which, while problematic, still gives you an easier time at versatile battlefield application as long as you can shore up attribute point deficiencies.

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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Occasional got mad here, so I posted here.

he 'got' mad ... here? Wait a minute.
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Who said I care about getting suspended here or not? Any views I express are mocked or taken out of context, so "discussion" is a mute point. I come here out of amusement anymore anyway. There is very little I have in common with the posters. Those who have expressed similar thoughts and beliefs have been run out of town. Since I have been treated with garbage then I have no reason not to treat the place like garbage.
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quote:
Originally posted by Occasional:
...so "discussion" is a mute point.

moot

This is a mute point:
quote:
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The problem is that whenever we go look back through time to the arguments which you invariably interpret as being 'treated with garbage,' a pattern emerges — there is a difference of opinion, and you respond in a way which assures people trying to debate fairly with you or hold a different opinion, that you aren't here for open discussion. You want Discussion-Within-Occasional's-Desired-Limits-Of-Nonoffensive-Positions. You, in fact, hate this forum because it PERMITS people to offer views that offend you. You have essentially told people, multiple times, "I am not interested in your position, I in fact wish that people who are not part of a generally conservative opinion were not allowed to have the same rights to publish those opinions here"

And people raise objection to that, usually in strenuously respectful terms, but you honestly have no personal measure of what respectful terms are. Because, for as long as I've seen you post here, you have felt entitled not to equal opinion representation, but to privileged opinion representation. To the extent that you have bizarrely and delusionally advanced and tried to spearhead a 'conservative overthrow' of the forum, and got roundly mocked when this restrictive gesture was not approved of by people who understand that this forum has never been about the kind of 'dialogue' you think it should have or was about.

What you are REALLY saying here is that "this forum has not upheld my arbitrary standards not to have to cohabitate with discussion involving many views I find offensive, and because of that I petulantly have decided to use this as an excuse to hang around and fixate on reminding the forum periodically that I hate it and the people here, with no redeeming purpose to my derogatory whinging."

You are VERY PREDICTABLE. You are, of course, welcome to prove me wrong, sometime, anytime, but since you've been on this bender for a while anyway, I have few hopes.

I'm also very sorry that you want nothing to do with me, but I am glad you still make time to have something to do with me to remind me you want nothing to do with me.

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Since I want absolutely nothing to do with you Samprimary, you aren't going to get any answers from your silly questions ever. And yes, I am a Troll. At this point trolling is the only worth I give to this sorry excuse for this message board. Orson Scott Card should be ashamed of himself for continuing support of the trash that infested itself here.
And the Lord said unto them, "Yea, my children, if the heathen treats you with iniquity, thou shalt respond with like degrees of hateful spite! Thus saith the God of Israel!"

I've got to admit, Occassional's faith and politics certainly seem to be more fun than mine, or at least more satisfying!

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But it bugs the heck out of so many of you. How can I bypass that now that I just don't care? As for highjack, your right since I feel liberals long ago highjacked this place that should belong to a more conservative and religious voice considering who is sponsoring it. What is funny, however, is that pretty much the only voices left are the ones that have been here for a very long time and even the number of those is shrinking.
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Do you really think this bugs us? This is fun, man. Look, imagine it from your point of view. In your point of view, most of us liberals think you're pretty awful trash, who think in our deluded welfare-loving minds that the things you say are so stupid they're amusing. Like children, we react with childish laughter when you chastise us.

Well, you keep chastising us, and we keep laughing-in your point of view. I can almost flat-out guarantee you that none of the people you think most dislike you are seriously 'bugged' by your attitude. In fact, those same people? I can almost with as much certainty guarantee that they are AMUSED when you go off on these absurd rants.

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Seriously, though...it's not as though the one sponsoring it is mute. If he wants this forum to represent a certain view, that is up to him, not you. Who exactly do you think you're kidding? Have you heard from Card that he wishes the forum was generally centered on a right-leaning, socially, politically, and religious conservative position? I mean, what, are you reading his mind to know what he thinks this forum ought to be, and thus angry that it's not?

And if you're only doing what you think the forum should reflect given who sponsors it but you don't actually know, or think you know...well, goodness. The mind boggles at that degree of presumption:)

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quote:
Originally posted by Occasional:
But it bugs the heck out of so many of you. How can I bypass that now that I just don't care? As for highjack, your right since I feel liberals long ago highjacked this place that should belong to a more conservative and religious voice considering who is sponsoring it. What is funny, however, is that pretty much the only voices left are the ones that have been here for a very long time and even the number of those is shrinking.

No one said the only people allowed to enjoy the books of Orson Scott Card had to be conservative or subscribe to one religion.
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quote:
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But it bugs the heck out of so many of you. How can I bypass that now that I just don't care?

Being entertainingly gratified with the ability to demonstrate the hypocrisy and unfair judgment of an openly and uselessly derogatory poster is not something which 'bugs the heck out of me.' This is such a fundamental failure to see obvious character traits in my posting and that should be painfully obvious. the thread is literally even a parody of my joyous capitalization on the opportunity to feast on the kind of drama you like to think you are creating and you just basically walked in here and fed me exactly what I wanted and

i don't

how

*boggle*

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Even if that was the position, I would continue posting here and being critical when I thought it was right to do so of a given conservative position and/or religious one. Part and parcel of that whole American thing, y'know? Pretty much the only thing that would actually stop me, personally, from expressing within-the-rules political and religious ideas here would be a specific request, either to me individually or more generally to the community, from Card himself.

It is after all his forum, he's the one supporting it, and if he really did want the political and religious forum tone shifted to the right, well, no beef, I'd take my ball and go home. Or, well, elsewhere, really. I would think it was a bad decision, but hey, this ain't my little slice of the Internet.

But as for someone else taking up arms, so to speak, on behalf of anger that this forum isn't what they think it should be based on who supports it, especially if they're just guessing...well, to hell with that. I'll mock the hell out of that position, for its absurd self-righteous stupidity, and won't apologize for doing so.

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quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
No one said the only people allowed to enjoy the books of Orson Scott Card had to be conservative or subscribe to one religion.

I said exactly that:
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
the only people allowed to enjoy the books of Orson Scott Card had to be conservative or subscribe to one religion.

http://www.hatrack.com/cgi-bin/ubbmain/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=027281;p=0&r=nfx
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We should reform the legal system in the following ways:

• Judges are not appointed, they are voted in, and can be impeached.

• No opposing lawyers, or jury of citizens, but a panel of odd number judges with a pair of impartial investigators/presenters.

• Laws should be rewritten into plain English with a standard, simplified format.

• Representatives should be required to vote on laws (not have the ability to simply skip a vote), and be charged with treason and hanged by the neck until dead if they are proved to receive any bribe or any compensation in exchange for any abuse of power.

• Bills put up for voting should only be for a single law at a time, and not be grouped into pork belly ridden, encyclopedia length, confusing and difficult to understand crap.

Discuss.

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I forgot this:

• Laws should include a section on the intent of the law so that they can not be misused or enforced on a strict "letter of the law" interpretation at the cost of justice.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Discuss.

In the distance, a lawyer softly explodes
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quote:
• Laws should be rewritten into plain English with a standard, simplified format.
I think all laws should be written in Shakespearan verse and translated into Klingon.

Discuss.

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Translated BACK into Klingon, you mean. Right?
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4 qaS:
DebDaq taymo' Say'moHtaH yo'a'neS.
'ej yem net noDHa'meH, paywI'pu' Say'moH, 'e' maq.

5 ghaHDaq tlheD yuDay'a Sep Hoch ngan, Hoch ngan je.
yorDa'neS bIQtIqDaq chaH (§ Say'moH 34440 ghaH 4),
yem 'e' luDIStaHvIS.

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quote:
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Translated BACK into Klingon, you mean. Right?

But of course. And they clearly must remain in Shakespearan verse in Klingon.
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I think law should be a dadaist performance art piece televised via simulcast to courtrooms and interpreted in the spur of the moment when deciding a claimant or defendant's fate
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In Shakespearan Klingon?
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depressing quote of the day

"So I went to plentyoffish.com and discovered the horrors awaiting me. Lots of girls that simply would not do, not even a little bit. Lots of statements saying "I stay within my race," because this is the deep south and people say things like that."

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(Post Removed by Janitor Blade. Stop trolling AoS.)

[ May 04, 2012, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]

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Because 'Jewish' is only a race or something, and you're not a baiting jackass?

I suppose it's too much to hope for that you get tagged for what you did, which was assert Armoth is a racist, and get canned for it.

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quote:
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(Post Edited by Janitor Blade)

shuuuuuuuttttt

uppppppppppppp

baaaaaaaaaaaad

trolllllllllll

[ May 04, 2012, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]

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Man, step away from the boards for a few min and all the good stuff is already edited out by JB! You are too efficient for my fun dude.
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quote:
Originally posted by Occasional:
But it bugs the heck out of so many of you. How can I bypass that now that I just don't care? As for highjack, your right since I feel liberals long ago highjacked this place that should belong to a more conservative and religious voice considering who is sponsoring it. What is funny, however, is that pretty much the only voices left are the ones that have been here for a very long time and even the number of those is shrinking.

I'm not kidding Occasional. I can countenance people getting frustrated and going too far, but openly declaring your intent to troll the forums and scuzz it up is pretty much the fastest way to get banned. You aren't the first to do it, we've had posters mention in other places they only post here to stir the pot. They get banned faster than any other kind of poster.

If you don't enjoy interacting here, then don't post here. If you post your opinions respectfully and people troll you, I'll step in for you. But I won't let you attack this forum.

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quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
If you post your opinions respectfully and people troll you, I'll step in for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9U_C_q6WcU

He hasn't stepped in for me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Man, step away from the boards for a few min and all the good stuff is already edited out by JB! You are too efficient for my fun dude.

I'm afraid to go to bed now! just wondering what did AoS say?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
If you post your opinions respectfully and people troll you, I'll step in for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9U_C_q6WcU

He hasn't stepped in for me.

I can't view youtube from work. But you and I both know we are at an impasse on that count. We also both know you are trolling, and have a history of doing it.
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<I chose to remove my own post to avoid stirring the pot anymore than necessary to avoid making BlackBlade's job any harder.>
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I don't think BB has suffered ENOUGH abuse. So I distributed cards to Reddit users inviting them to come discuss Card's latest editorial,
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That reminds me, I hadn't read it yet. Thanks...at least until the hordes come.
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It is a really bad article but that is really not surprising anymore. No I mean it is really bad. It has factually incorrect things in it which are like five-minutes-to-find-the-correct-information bad.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
depressing quote of the day

"So I went to plentyoffish.com and discovered the horrors awaiting me. Lots of girls that simply would not do, not even a little bit. Lots of statements saying "I stay within my race," because this is the deep south and people say things like that."

Hey, I read that thread too! E/N is one of my guilty pleasures.

By the way, I want to marry this whole thread instead of just one post. Is it possible for someone to marry a thread when someone has already married a post within that thread? Would I have to marry all the single posts instead?

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