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theamazeeaz
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Threatening someone with guns in that context is totally out of line. I hope they got arrested.
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I'm not sure. Officers definitely got to them right quick, cuffed them, and walked them out. But I'm not sure if they were charged.

Two individuals did it at different times. We also had some Ralph Nader folks who stood up and tried to shout him down, they were kicked out too. The crowd was largely very hostile. I was very impressed (from an objective standpoint) with Mr. Moore's ability to redirect all the booing and take the air out of it.

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Michael Moore spoke at my school and there were huge protests. During the speech people stood up and indicated that they were armed and that he should get off the stage. He managed to get through his speech.
jesus, at least the worst coulter had to deal with was risk of getting pied in the face
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
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Michael Moore spoke at my school and there were huge protests. During the speech people stood up and indicated that they were armed and that he should get off the stage. He managed to get through his speech.
jesus, at least the worst coulter had to deal with was risk of getting pied in the face
It was pretty terrible, people were actually reaching into their jackets like they were drawing a weapon while they shouted at him.

I think Utah has mellowed out a bunch since then, I think that speech was an important moment in defining what kind of school my alma mater was going to be.

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Okay, this discussion died. Wanna do trigger warnings?
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You have TWO NEW ARTICLES too!
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I'm on the fence about the proposal to remove apostrophes. Given the way people often write texts and emails, it seems as if we're heading in that direction. And if it means I don't have to look at another possessive "it's," I'll at least be happy about that. But it will introduce some other ambiguities in the language. If "we're" becomes "were," you'll have to do a double-take whenever you see either word written, the way we have to do already with "lead" or "sake."

While we're proposing new revisions to grammar, let's take punctuation outside of quotes. Take the sentence above, where I quote "it's." Except this time, there's a period instead of a comma inside the quote. In our copy-paste society, we should consider punctuation in between quotation marks to be part of the original quote; anything part of the encapsulating sentence's own structure, like a period or a comma, should go outside the quotation marks. So I would write "it's", instead of "it's,". A lot of people do this already anyway, but it's still considered an error, because the textbooks on style and grammar were written before computer programming and copy-paste.

Also, in our grammar-of-tomorrow, one-sentence paragraphs shouldn't contain periods at the end, since the period has become a sign of aggression

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I didn't take that one too seriously, to be honest. The paragraph was perfectly readable, msotly lkie the oens wtih the fisrt and lsat letetrs cahnegd but all the letetrs are tehre. I was amused at the pre-emptive strike against hate mail, though. Do people send actual direct hate mail or just post here? [Cool]

Honestly, people claim that homonym spellings are necessary to disambiguate certain sentences, and I'm sure you could come up with great examples (there are numerous ones with punctuation). In most circumstances, context deals with most of them. Otherwise, we'd have terrible difficulty understanding spoken English. As for the others, a reasonably well-educated writer should be aware of potential misinterpretations of sentences and re-write around them.

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quote:
Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
I'm on the fence about the proposal to remove apostrophes.

obviously you are not, filthy apostrophe-user

peddle your false apostrophognosticism elsewhere

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quote:
false apostrophognosticism
Sam wins the neologism of the day award.
Your prize? This gently-used portmanteau

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Cryptoapostrophognosticism abounds.
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quote:
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Michael Moore spoke at my school and there were huge protests. During the speech people stood up and indicated that they were armed and that he should get off the stage. He managed to get through his speech.
jesus, at least the worst coulter had to deal with was risk of getting pied in the face
That and... you know. All the death threats?

She gets a lot of death threats. Did you seriously not know that? Or are you just saying that obviously no one would ever go through with them so they're irrelevant to this discussion?

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do you mean death threats while she's speaking, or the ubiquitous death-threats-mailed-to-everyone-with-even-a-moderate-amount-of-celebrity? maybe coulter's different, because of how she sort of also makes death threats and death wishes but whatev

what moore appears to been dealing with was terroristic acts in person by people suggesting the threat that they were going to shoot him, which is afaik much more troubling than anything done to disrupt coulter during a speech.

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now there's How to Train Your Dragon 2, and this, too, is a sequel that brings the original story to fruition.

I haven't read the books these films are based on, so I'm not sure how faithful the sequel was to any of the narratives. I'm inclined to wonder, because Hollywood barely knows how to tell stories about real heroes anymore.

Somehow, Dreamworks Animation managed to give us a story in which the peace-loving hero comes up against a bad guy who doesn't want peace, who relentlessly pursues war, and can only be defeated by having his means of warmaking taken away from him.

Which is, of course, the real goal in every war -- to destroy the enemy's capacity to inflict harm or resist your forces. It was what George W. Bush was heading toward achieving -- removing the safe havens for Islamic terrorists -- when a replacement President came in and undid all of Bush's achievements as quickly as he could. Mission almost totally accomplished now.

But not in How to Train Your Dragon 2. The hero, Hiccup, is several years older -- a more manly jaw, a somewhat deeper voice, a bit of facial hair, and a love interest. A kid's movie, growing up.

But it's a grownup movie in a lot of other ways. Good guys get defeated. Killed sometimes. Bad guys have complicated motivations -- yet can't just be "converted" to the good side with a hug and a few kind words. Hiccup is facing Hitler. He can't be appeased, because he wants war. And so the war goes on, and Hiccup has to find a way to lead his people to victory.

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I was moved by the heroism -- and by the fact that the hero was honored by his people. That so rarely happens -- in our culture, we're much more likely to vilify or marginalize our true heroes.
can it really honestly be said how inane it is that this review nonsequitors "all the problems in iraq are obama's fault" into a review of an animated movie about dragons
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I noticed it as well, but not having seen the movie, I can't tell you how much of a leap the comparison it is.

The review about which chip flavor is best still wins the award for most painful unnecessary nonsequitor into the author's personal politics during a product review.

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I have to say, that when I'm sitting down for a long stretch of gaming in the Mechwarrior Universe with Pirhana Games Inc.'s MechWarrior Online, I find myself thinking through how I'm going to pair it.

No, not with wine, dear reader. I know what you're thinking, and I know as well as you that wine is a surat habit that dulls the senses and makes it harder to score those perfect core hits on the stravag inner sphere weaklings.

No, a clear ristar like myself knows to match the proper energy drink with their batchall. When, as is my temperament, I am in the bleeding-edge assault habit, I will be sipping on the finest of Monster Energy Drink in the Khaos or M-80 flavor while annihilating your front lines in a 100 ton Dire Wolf (that's a Daishi to you stravags). If instead I intend to be pairing a more subtle blend of speed, maneuverability, and jump jet capacity that the 75 ton Timber Wolf offers to the battlefield, I will instead be inclined towards the mellower reflex-enhancing buzz of a Mountain Dew Code Red. Does it bother anyone else that so many other pretenders to the throne came after the resounding success of Code Red? It seems like, just like with liberal hollywood, once someone's made an inspired variation on a theme, they have to drive it into the ground with every following twist on the genre -- or, in the case of Mountain Dew, every unnatural color in the spectrum. Hollywood simply just can't function anymore, and is wholly terrible.

More important to your Pirhana Games Inc.'s MechWarrior Online experience, however, requires that I bring to your attention the relatively recent phenomenon of the "flavored corn-chip" snacks which appear to be all the rage with youths. Wisened fogies like myself will remember a simpler time, before everyone got obsessed with overcomplicated flavor options, in which these were mostly unadorned tortilla chips -- and believe me, they certainly worked in that capacity! --, but they have now exploded into an unconstrained mess of half-worthwhile flavors and obvious dead-ends of flavor opportunity. In a way, trying to navigate through all these flavored corn-chip snacks is like trying to find your way through the mess of absolute failures of the Obama administration, and being forced to watch as the absolute worst president of all time simply ruins everything that George W. Bush was going to successfully accomplish in Iraq. Each maudlin, tepid new flavor standing testament to that Obama is simply the most disgusting, incompetent, ruthless dictator of a president ever, prostrating himself before the shrine of the Religion of Environmentalism and its seven lies of Global Warming.

But before your MechWarrior gets as hot under the collar as liberals do when you point out the clear facts about Obama, let me say that there have indeed turned out to be two flavors worthy of consideration! (Let me also recommend that you build a mech with more Clan Double Heat Sinks and stop relying on so many energy weapons. I know environmentalists in the Leftaliban will shriek at you about how ballistic weapons are a nonrenewable resource, but I find it is better to not listen to them in constructing engines of war. Liberals, like their president, have obviously never understood war.) The two types of flavored corn-chip I believe are worthy of pairing are the Doritos Corn Chip Cool Ranch Flavor and the Doritos Corn Chip Nacho Cheese Flavor. Either, I have found, is an excellent pairing with either the Assault or Conquest mode. And, before you say anything, I cannot count how many letters I have received asking for me to explain the difference between the two gameplay settings.

If you find yourself instead in Skirmish mode, my old standby is the Frito-Lay Cheetoes Cheese-Flavored, Puffed Cornmeal Snacks, but these are for experts only, given their propensity to stain vintage Dragonball-Z T-Shirts or Blue Flame wifebeaters (cue the feminist howlings of outrage that I dared recognize the traditional name of this venerated sleeveless strap-t). Make sure that your mother knows the critical difference between the blood-red of the Nacho Cheese Doritos and the lighter orange of Cheetoes when you send her out to provide for the week's meal plan.

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You forgot University English departments....
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University English Departments are like that time that Hitler caught Obama unprepared at Benghazi ...
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Game of Thrones is one of the most faithful film adaptations ever
in terms of literal adaptation? or what.
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As far as maintaining the tone and feel of the original, I'm guessing. Though IMO, HBO has kind of veered towards making it too brutal - they kill off characters who don't die in the books, just for shock value, and omit a lot of the emotional core of the books that makes you care about the characters in the first place. But this has been my complaint since season 1, and it's actually gotten a lot better in the past few years.
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Eh, books aren't films, and they never have been. Maybe certain children's books. Holes, for example is about as long as a book can be and still be a film in its entirety. Books are television serials, and while people have known this before (e.g. James Michener's Centennial, Pride and Prejudice), I think the lesson has really sunk in with Game of Thrones and I hope filmmakers remember to hand over the book adaptations to the tv writers.
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Yeah I am generally in the camp that being faithful to a book adaptation can often times be a useless burden. Film is a different medium. The odds of being able to actually literally faithfully translate a book are slim. Adapt, adopt and discard to the full extent of what will make a work work in the environment, medium, and pacing of a series, miniseries, or movie.
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I do agree the mini-series is the perfect medium for adapting a book. Book-based movies have *always* suffered, simply due to the way movies are constructed. It's either always awkward and dysfunctional if it's too faithful, or loses too much of the original story for it to really be called an adaptation. OTOH, short stories are the perfect medium to be adapted into movies, and I really wish that happened more often than it does. (Mostly I think the habit of making books into movies is a terrible thing, since it basically cripples the movie from the get-go. Movies do a lot better as original productions.)
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