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twinky
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1.04 posts per day - on average - since February 4th, 2000. That works out to one post per day plus one extra post every 24th day. (When I was a newbie here, people like Pod, Ethics Gradient, David Bowles, and Thor had yet to register; people like Anne Kate, Slash, and Tom were already hardened veterans.) In other words, by Hatrack standards, I'm a lurker - Pod, EG, and DB all have way more posts than I do.

Actually, one of my "Hatrack memories" is of one of David's first posts - it was the first one of his that I saw, but I don't know that it was his first post. It was in Thor's original "ORSON SCOTT CARD, I CHALLENGE THEE" thread. He said (roughly) that he had always pictured Thor as an embittered, middle-aged failure of a poet, but now realized that Thor was actually just a Gen-X fanboy with something to prove...

I'm not sure why it sticks in my mind, but memories are strange like that. There are some posts and threads that just do that for what seems to be no particular reason; I guess that's why I keep returning to Hatrack even after extended breaks (which are typically caused by school).

I remember Anne Kate's post in one of the many Radiohead threads about how great it was to sing along with Optimistic in the shower at the top of her lungs.

I remember KEGE in the "AKA's asteroid annihilation" thread.

I remember Ophelia in many a "post lyrical snippets" thread - we kept one of those going for weeks between the two of us.

I remember playing Dr. Mobius' lyrics game with Jeni just last night.

I remember listening to Shark Fin, by sarfa's former band, for the first time, and I remember how happy I was when he sent me their demo CD.

I remember when the identity of Dead Horse was revealed and the username was retired.

I remember realizing just how many usernames Leto II has.

I remember realizing that "LETOLL" was supposed to read "LETO 2," and wondering why I hadn't noticed the first Leto.

I remember my first post - it was in a thread Tom started about a letter he had sent to Salon after reading one of their articles.

I remember a discussion about newbies way back in 2000 - "we decided to keep him." ("Him" being me).

I remember making my first nervous foray into the daunting "Books, Films, Food, and American Culture" from my former home in "Discussions about Orson Scott Card." I remember deciding to stay here.

I remember Slash vs. Tom on the subject of capitalism.

I remember Hobbes' smiley threads.

I remember the first time I saw OSC post.

...now...

...that was something.

Most of my breaks from Hatrack are caused, as I said, by school. I'm taking chemical engineering at the University of Waterloo, and I find it more than a little challenging. There was, though, one hiatus (in 2001) that was caused by a girl. I posted about it in Belle's thread for sharing personal stuff. Her name is Christina.

Oddly enough, for someone who writes atrocious free verse poetry, I think the best way for me to express this is with the lyrics of a song I wrote for/about her.

Tin

shed a tear for me
for what i'll never be
for what i've left behind
tonight
i asked too much of you
was too afraid of what i'd see
in me
and i've never seen you crying
but i don't mind
and i wanted you to be there
when i died tonight
don't cry for who i've been
he's dead and gone after tonight
bear witness to my sins
in silence
he drowned my life in lies
just kept them coming, flowing in
inside
and i've always been afraid of you
but i don't mind
and i didn't know who lived in me
but that can't make it right
and i'm afraid of you and i'm afraid for you and i'm afraid of you and what i do to you
and how many times have i run from you
a burned little child
and i couldn't say what i needed to hear
my answers erased with a smile
i don't know a thing no i don't know a thing no yeah
you've held my whole world on your shoulders
held this broken child
don't mourn the self i've left behind me
now
or tonight...

I actually had two relationships with this girl (several years apart); I wrote the song just before the second one (October 2000). Just after the first one (which was in high school Ė the middle of 1998) got started one of my best friends (her name was Eman) was killed in a car accident (10.04.98) - hence "you've held my whole world up on your shoulders."

Since I didnít post too much during that year (though I lurked), I think that the best way to summarize the effect that the second releationship with her had on me is to post the words to a song I wrote shortly after she broke up with me (a second time) last Christmas (I wrote the song in January-February of this year). The breakup, while hard, was the best choice for her, and weíre still friends (weíve always been friends, even while we werenít having relationships).

A Dirty Clean

I'm on a beach at sunset; the sand between my toes is
Cold but I don't care
The hues are picture-perfect / I'm photogenic, even
The sun can't help but stare
I feel like I'm the bullgod / my ego holds me close and
Soothes away my fear
Fear of failure / fear of disappointment
But I still wish you were here
I've missed the way your body curves / between your hips and shoulders
I've missed your fingers through my hair
And sometimes I hope / the place tomorrow finds me
I might find you there

I'm on my feet and / the ground beneath me / is solid as it's ever been

The waves wash me clean and I'm dancing inside
I've sullied my mind with myself
It heals even you and I'm dancing now
I can't wait to see the sunrise

The sun sinks lower / the waves lap the shore and I
Shiver from the breeze
I sign you in the sand and / let sleep's tomorrow find me
Soothing in its ease

I'm on my feet and / the ground beneath me / is solid as it's ever been

The waves wash me clean and I'm dancing inside
I've sullied my mind with myself
It heals even you and I'm dancing now
I can't wait to see the sunnrise

The waves wash me clean and I'm dancing inside
Unsullied my mind by myself
It's healed even you and I'm dancing now
I can't wait to see the sunrise

Tomorrow you'll be gone
Tomorrow you'll be gone
Tomorrow you'll be gone

Iíd post links to the songs themselves (Iíve never recorded Tin, but Iím working on it), but my schoolís mail server (where I have my webspace) is currently down. Iíll add links to .mp3 files as soon as theyíre back up.

While Iím on the subject of women, this is probably the best piece ofÖ [ code? free verse poetry? ] Iíve ever written.

Maybe I should post it in deerparkís thread.

I think that what Iím getting at with all of this is that the best way for me to show you who I am is by showing you the things I remember and the things I create. Unfortunately, itís just as time-consuming to read as an autobiographical piece like Bob and Moose have done, and is also considerably more haphazard. Nonetheless, if youíve read this far, there isnít that much more to do.

I wrote Meizi and The Ballad of the Forgotten Poet after the Emanís death. Neither one has any words Ė Iím not very good at writing lyrics, and while I think I can get my point across with them, itís easier for me to express emotion in music (be it that of others or my own). The Ballad of the Forgotten Poet was actually named for a song my oldest friend Duncan (I wrote I Am Not A Duck for Duncanís birthday in 1999 Ė he used to tell a horrible joke about ducks with a blues improv background) wrote and sang about Eman.

I only have to finish one more song about Eman before I think Iíll finally be able to lay her to rest Ė one with words. Actually, itíll probably be about death in general, which is something I spent some time I]http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=28609695&m=6240921983 ] thinking about this winter.

A snippet from that thread:

quote:
Öafter my best friend died, I performed Rachmaninoff's Prelude in C# Minor at the local music festival (almost a year later). I did it with her obituary in my shirt pocket, because she loved hearing me play the piece as I was learning it, but she never got to hear me play it all the way through. Was that a personal mechanism designed to help me acheive some sort of closure, or was it a sign that I subconsciously believe in something more than this flesh-and-blood life?

I still donít know the answer to that question, but itís an interesting one to think about.

Iíd walk the water to get back to you
and where I was complete
we found you scattered by the highway side
too soon to be released
gathered the pieces up
and cleaned the places where you were undone
and washed the wreckage out
unfinished, all the thoughts that weíd begun

-Moist, Leave it Alone

Itís kind of strange how music, movies, and books can all have a powerful effect on me. I wrote The Painting this summer, after watching What Dreams May Come.

Interestingly enough, an .mp3 of Letoís just started playing. Itís a shame that I donít have the equipment and time/patience to get my tunes sounding this good, but somedayÖ

[ On the subject of questions worth considering, I think that I should have cross-posted this here at Hatrack, because it resulted in a fascinating discussionÖ ]

All right, Iím getting more and more mundaneÖ this means that Iím drawing to a close. Just a few things I should mention:

Thus far, I think that Xenocide has been my favourite of OSCís books (however, Iíve only read the Ender-related books and Treasure Box).

Öand some (auto)biographical notes.

My mother is Palestinian. She was six years old in 1948 when her family left Jaffa for what they thought was going to be a couple of weeks until things ďsettled down.Ē Since then, she has been back twice Ė once in 1968 with one of her brothers and once in 1987 with my father and I while we were living in Amman, Jordan. After getting her Ph D, she taught elementary school in Nova Scotia until this year, when I finally convinced her to retire and relax. *grin*

My father is from New Zealand. He was a national swimming and diving champion when he was younger than I am today (I only ever won a provincial championship at the peak of my swimming ďcareer,Ē and then only in my class), fought in the Korean War, toured Japan with a rugby team, has a Ph D in elementary education (just like mum) and has actually written a couple of books on the subject of literacy (one of which Iím currently reading). He taught in the field of teacher education at Acadia University (specifically, child literacy) until he retired about ten years ago.

My mother and father met in Switzerland at some sort of teachersí conference.

I was born in 1981 in Nova Scotia, and lived there for most of my life - with the exception of a year in Amman, where I went to school and learned to speak, read, and write in Arabic (and even had to take English classes!). Unfortunately, I canít read or write Arabic anymore (except my own name), and my speaking abilities are rudimentary at best (basic conversation only). I started playing the piano when I was four years old and still play whenever I get the chance. These days Iím working my way through my first degree, but because my program is a co-op program, I only go to school in four-month chunks; when Iím not at school, Iím off working somewhere in my industry (so far, Iíve worked for Xerox, a foam company, a refinery, and now Dow Chemical). Hence my absences from Hatrack.

Iíd say that brings us full circle. 1.04 posts per day Ė I wonder how long itíll take me to drop below 1.0?

[This message has been edited by twinky (edited September 22, 2002).]


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I'm surprised to be mentioned

Interesting twink, particularly the do/while thing. Tin actually sounds rather cool, though seems to decend into a radiohead like dissonence at the end. So it, i assume, will do much better as a song than as a poem, with that sort of ending.

i'm sorry to hear that your friend died. i wasn't aware.


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That Rachmaninoff piece is one of his best.

It's great to have you here at Hatrack, and while you do not post as often as others, almost all of your posts have meaning.


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quote:

Thus far, I think that Xenocide has been my favourite of OSCís books (however, Iíve only read the Ender-related books and Treasure Box).

Öand some (auto)biographical notes.


I fell in love with OSC all over again this weekend...I just finished Pastwatch - the Redemption of Christopher Columbus. I think you'll enjoy it.



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'Tis okay. I only have 459 posts (this is 460) in 412 days. About the same percentage as you.

Of course I've got 449 at ornery.org, but I registered there about 9-10 months before here, so I'm even slower there.


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I've been thinking about Pastwatch. I'll append it to my list of books to buy.

Pod, I also remember your "walking on walls" pictures. Those ruled!

Thanks, :Locke. I appreciate that.

Magson, I've got ~630 at Ars Technica since April 14th, 2000 - way slower than here.


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That must've been the longest 1000th post..whoa..but really interesting..
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twinky
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It wasn't that long, was it?
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Heh, I'm hardly more than a lurker these days... Ok, maybe more of a sporadic poster.

Rock on, Twinky.


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twinky
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EG! Good to see you posting!

You do have more posts than me, too.


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twinky,..sorry to break it to you.but yes it was..lol..
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Almost time to make my 2000th post...that quick too..
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Hey, as long as your signal-to-noise ratio is good, it doesn't matter if you post a lot.

Sorry my post was so long.

Edit: Actually, I'm not sorry! It's not as though I didn't warn you.

[This message has been edited by twinky (edited September 22, 2002).]


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I wasn't complaining..it was just..the longest topic i've ever seen..
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Nah, some of the posts in the political threads are a lot longer.

I really like this 1000 post tradition.


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Wow. Yet another person who's posted more than me.

I, too, remember most of those events. Creepy - I feel so old... and I'm really not.


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Well,at this point, everbody's older than I am, and I'm just going to deal with that.

Also,if I decide I like this place,then you're stuck with me,cause I don't leave places I like.

Unless you'd rather not have me in here for a good reason,that is.....


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Older as in posts or older as in age?
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Carrie, you've been around a good six months longer than me - in point of fact, your three-year Hatrack anniversary is in four days.

We'll have to throw you a party.

Welcome to the forum, Anubis.


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Thanks Twinky.

quote:
Older as in posts or older as in age?

Both,of course!,Well probably about the age thing.But that's ok, I know how to hang with adults.

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Congrats, it's nice to have you here!

I really like your work, poetry, music, it's all good.

~Zev


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Congrats, twinky! I always considered you one of my favorite Hatrackers, seeing as I could almost never argue with whatever you said, and on top of that, you're a fellow Canadian and a Radiohead fan to boot. I used to post about 4 times per day when I was a newbie, around the same time as you, Twinky. I have yet to reach that hallowed 1000th post, but I'm on my way with about 860 now. I slowed down my posting alot since the days of "AKA's asteroid annihilation" thread and have consigned myself to life as a relatively ignored semi-lurker. I do, however, remember well all of the events twinky describes, and welcome the nostalgia.

I just hope you're here as long as I am.


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Oh, BTW, I remeber the thread where Dead Horse's idenity was revealed, but I can't remember who it was...
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Wow, it's like a reunion - all these people I hardly ever get to see posting! I'm glad you like my stuff, Zevlag.

Chaeron, I don't remember what the verse was that Dead Horse used to reveal his/her identity, but here's something in a similar vein.

sometimes it's best
and most prudent not to
reveal the
final identity of
a Hatrack legend.

If I could find the original post, I would....

[This message has been edited by twinky (edited September 23, 2002).]


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I forgot to mention, you are def one of my favorite fellow hatrackers. Whatever happened to the hatrack map pinpointing where everyone was? still have a copy of that?


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Trust me, that isn't the longest post by a far shot. But still nice.
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Congratulations on reaching 1000. Stick a flag in the ground!

Good post.


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Good post. I anticipate reaching my own 1000 post in about another year. There's something to be said for taking your time, I guess.

How about we all agree to the unspoken rule (not yet violated to my knowledge) that you don't make a Papa-Moose-style thread at 1,000 unless you have also been here for a while, say one year or 6 months or something. If after one year, you are actually nearing 12,000 posts, you can make a "12,000th post--Warning: Very Long" thread at that time.


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Congratulations on reaching 1000 twinky! It's good to see that you're still around.
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Well, I think we can all agree that a gentleman takes his time.

Don't worry, I won't subject you to another one of these for at least two more years at the rate I'm going.


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Hey twink - was fun playing lyrics with you the other night. I expect that was one of the higher number of posts you've made at one time. Good to see you around, and thanks for the great 1000th post!
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I had a good time, too

I think it was definitely the most posts I've made in such a short span of time. I would have kept going if I didn't have to save the 1000th post for this one


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What kind of server "fails?"

Anyway, it's up and running again, so I posted what I've got.

A Dirty Clean

The Atari Prophet

The quality is less than stellar, and you have to listen to me sing


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It was sarfa, of course! Sarfa was dead horse and Mikey was Perfect Gentleman.

And now I'm about to reveal something startling to those of you who know what I'm talking about, and completely opaque to most of you.

SUMBUNNY was Mikey too! <giggles> Now I've outed him!


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Shhh, Anne Kate, I was trying to preserve the secret!

That other bit, however, is a revelation...


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