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Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
I am a child of breakthrough. I am a child of chaos. I was born during the time people were feeling unrest. They wanted to decide. They wanted freedom. I was three when the martial state was introduced. I don’t remember tanks in the streets, soldiers at the sidewalks. I don’t remember the curfew. It took another 7 years before the long-desired freedom was possible. How happy we were. How much hope we had. Finally, we will be able to decide, we will elect our government, we will decide of our lives. We were children allowed into the adult world. We were not ready.

The disappointment followed quickly. Life was supposed to get better, but for so many, it didn’t. People lost their jobs. The state-owned companies were being closed. Nothing was offered in return. The new reality was too scary, too difficult. There was no help to be expected. The subsequent governments did nothing, except for taking away what little the people had. Yes, there were now products in the shops – but who would buy them if there was no money? Yes, we could vote – but who do you vote for if there is no one to trust? People saw the need for university education… but what use is your masters’ when the unemployment exceeds 20%? This was not what we expected. This was not what we were promised. And at the same time, there were people getting so rich, so quickly. People making careers. They had expensive western cars. They had color TV. They built villas. They spent holidays abroad. They cheated.

Life was simpler before. There were so many things you did not have to worry about. Your job was guaranteed. Your healthcare was free. Your children could go to a camp at a very low cost, so everyone could afford it. People were equal. And you knew who to blame for all that you didn’t have. And you knew the government was lying, but it would take care of you.

How many of you know the real taste of chocolate? Oranges? Salami? [Smile]

These were not easily available. You learned to cherish them when you got them. Christmas was such a wonderful time, when you could really appreciate everything you had.

People had more time. There was no pressure to work long hours at your workplace to make a career. You did not try to buy your child’s love, because there was not much you could offer them except for your time.

The chaos will give place to order. The children will grow up and learn to live in the new world. But change is difficult and needs time. And there will always be a nostalgia for the times when life was simple and required little effort. Don’t we always miss our childhood?
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
((((Kama))))

[Smile] [Smile]

Makes me appreciate that which I did have, and have now. Heres to another 1000!
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Congrats Kama! An interesting perspective, the first I've heard with even a modicum of nostalgia for Cold War Eastern Europe.

What do you think, is the Brave New World (tm) better in the long run, about the same (but different), or worse (I include this solely for completeness)?

-Bok

[EDIT: Note to self, questions use question marks, not periods; and brackets close brackets, not parens]

[ May 03, 2004, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
It is an adult world. It's tough, but it's better [Smile]
 
Posted by Lara (Member # 132) on :
 
What a momentous thing to live through. Thanks for writing that.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
(((((((Kama))))))) [Cool]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Cool post! [Big Grin]
(((Kama)))
[Wave]
 
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
 
(((Kama))) You are a great person and this post is [Cool] .
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
Beautiful.

Congrats on 3000... hooray for the Kamaness [Smile]
 
Posted by tt&t (Member # 5600) on :
 
Great post, Kama. [Smile] Here's to many more. ::raises glass::
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
yay Kama! That really is an interesting perspective on the whole situation... usually you hear people saying how happy they are that things changed.

[Hat]
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Your post sort of reminds me of The Worthing Saga. I liked that book. I liked your post. Keep posting.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Congrats on 3000, roomie! [Big Grin] Here's to many 1000 more.

As always, excellent, thoughtful post. For some reason I'm craving oranges . . . [Wink]

May you never know scarcity again, but always remember the way things tasted when you did. [Smile]
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Fascinating post! *knows nothing about Eastern European history but wants to learn*
 
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
 
Congratulations! Great post--thanks for an interesting and new perspective. [Smile]
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
[Wave]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
[Hat] to Kama. Interesting perspective.

Dagonee
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Absolutely fascinating, Kama.
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
You're not fooling me Icky. I know what you really think...

---

[Wave] Hatrack
 
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
 
Hmmm, just how did I miss this ?! [Dont Know]

Well, better later than never, they say...

Congrats Kama on your 3000 posts ! And believe me, I know what you ment in your post. Been there, done that. Wouldn't return to it though, there's stuff that kills all that nostalgia...
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
Same here--how did I miss this.

Congratz Kama, on 3000, on growing up.

I have heard anti-western, pro-old days rants before. Yours was the first I heard that said, "It was so much easier before, but it will be better after."

Thanks.

PS. For those interested in some Eastern European history, try Poland by James Michener. It made me realize that while my ancestors in the US were fighting for their freedom at valley forge, my ancestors in places that may or may not be a part of Poland now or then, were being entertained by the great "classical" musicians.

In the US world history goes--Sumer-Egypt-Greece-Rome-England-US. What was happening in the rest of the world at any given point in time is totally immaterial.

India is unimportant until it fights for its freedom from Britain. China is somewhat important around 1800, but not again until WWII. Eastern Europe is never important except as the place that started WWI or as a Soviet Satelitte Bloc. That is such a shame.

That got me so interested I bought a used "Eastern European History" text book and devoured it.

I may have to re-read them.
 
Posted by ginette (Member # 852) on :
 
Yes, good post Kama. [Smile]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
Fabulous stuff from a cool chick whose mind is her best attribute (as hot as she may be [Wink] ). We're glad to know you, Kama!
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
[Smile]
 
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
 
Hatrack went down before i got a chance to read this, so i'm glad it's been bumped. Happy 3000th, Kama, Greg and I are anxious to meet you in August [Smile]

*psst. Kama's cool*
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
Yeah, like I didn't post it in any other forum [Razz]
 
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
 
hoo ha?

i thought you only linked to it.

well, i'm just a silly pickle.
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
PICKLES!!!!

*eats*
 


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