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debhoag
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I was asked to write a short on the topic: Sex in the age of VHS. It's pretty . . . bold. Anyone willing to take a look?

Splatter films, snuff, lies caught on camera, snozzled teenage girls showing their bodies for free. Can you imagine? It's changed since then. It's easier, cheaper, less hassle to do it digital, baby. Why have some fragmented, hungover chick show up on your doorstep sniveling about what her parents are going to say when you can get the job done with a hard-case forty-year-old who's been lifted, tucked and airbrushed until even the teenager wishes she looked like that?
Keep it simple, snuffer. That's my motto. So when the Lolita showed up at my door, claiming she was indestructible, daring me to slice and dice, I slammed the door in her face and went back to sucking those little pimento things out of a bowl of olives and considering head shots of half-a-dozen middle-aged


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Hey debhoag,

Personally, I love a bit of bold fiction -- the more confrontational, the better! And I'm guessing that this is going to be pretty, er, bold

I liked the narrative voice you've used here, and this:

quote:
Keep it simple, snuffer.

was the hook for me. Advice for a snuffer? Oh lordy!

Send the whole thing, if you'd like, and I'll cast my cold eye over it.

Kind regards,

paul


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debhoag
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groovy, Paul. I'll have it ready in a few. I'm baking bread and I have to go knead, first.
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Splatter films, snuff, lies caught on camera, snozzled teenage girls showing their bodies for free. Can you imagine?[What's your target audience age? It'll make a real difference, I think, whether you're pitching to young people who have grown up with technology or older folks who haven't. To me (on the young end), this "Can you imagine?" directed apparently at the audience is a turnoff. Of course I can imagine, I live it, and so I suspect the rest of the story to be equally misdirected.]It's changed since then. It's easier, cheaper, less hassle to do it digital, baby. Why have some fragmented[what do you mean by fragmented? mentally unstable? already sliced and diced?], hungover chick show up on your doorstep sniveling about what her parents are going to say when you can get the job done with a hard-ass forty-year-old who's been lifted, tucked and airbrushed until even the teenager wishes she looked like that?[An interesting perspective. I'm not sure I buy it yet, but I'm open to having my mind changed.]
Keep it simple, snuffer.[Elaborately made up forty-year-olds are simpler than teens? Easier on the emo front, perhaps, but I'm not sure simple is the right word] That's my motto. So when the Lolita showed up at my door, claiming she was indestructible, daring me to slice and dice, I slammed the door in her face and went back to sucking those little pimento things out of a bowl of olives and considering head shots of half-a-dozen middle-aged women who each claimed to be the best teenage victim in the country.[Long awkward sentence - break it up?] Being top-end, each of the head shots came as a short clip of the actress screaming in terror.

I like it enough overall that I'd definitely keep reading. It's a bit heavy on the slang, though, with "splatter films", "snuff", "snozzled", "Lolita". I'm wondering again about target audience, and whether it might read easier with the terms put in context or otherwise explained.

Send it along?

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annepin
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Hm... there doesn't really seem to be any upcoming conflict. He (I'm assuming) slams the door on her face, goes back to his regular business... I'm not compelled to read on. Where's the moment of change? I don't see any story. I see only a character sketch. If the girl is the moment of change I think you can make her a little more compelling, maybe put her in a little scene, have her say something before he slams the door, and then have him go back to his olive sucking.

And sex in the age of VHS--isn't it a bit late for that? I mean, VHS, as a technology, is so last millennium! I'm a bit confused as to the purpose of the piece, as well as what the story is here.

Your prose, though, is excellent, as always. I found this to be a little thick to wade through.


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Work with me here, annepin! The topic was assigned. I didn't pick it, I swear.
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Sorry, you're right, that wasn't quite fair.

Added: I guess I was a bit confused because I associate VHS primarily with 1980s, early 1990s. There's nothing about the piece to suggest that era. In fact, the reference to doing things "digital" seems to suggest the short-lived laser disc or dvds.

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debhoag
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now you're going to have to read something to make it up to me - gotcha!
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lol--i'd be happy to read. send it along!
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Well first, congrats on being commissioned to write a short!

I'm reasonably broad minded and well read (or should I say well exposed?) but I don't understand the slang nor the premise.

I think snuff movies are the really extreme, illegal end of pornography where the girls are killed for pleasure (snuffed out), so I imagine a "snuffer" is one who indulges in such. I'm not a prude but I would not want to spend time with such an MC.

Given that, I assume "slice and dice" is slang for the killing, and I cannot imagine why a whore would volunteer for that. Also, I imagined "splatter films" meant lots of blood and gore ... but only for a short while.

"Snozzled" gave me pause as well. I imagined it was like "sozzled" but given that the other slang was obscure for me, I hesitated long enough to get confused.

I didn't see a hook, just an objectionable MC that I feel no sympathy for--not because he likes whores, that's okay as long as they're free and willing; but because he's into killing them.

Do they really snivel about their parents on the job? Seemed unlikely to me. Surely they're more likely to be plain miserable, with their minds anywhere but on what they're doing.

Hope this helps,
Pat

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Ouch! Does everybody know what schnockered means?

The teenage girls with regrets refers to a really obnoxious set of videos called "girls gone wild" in which young women who are not professional actresses (or professional anything elses) are persuaded to disrobe in front of the camera. Often, in clubs and bars. It is my assumption that they are often under the influence, and later regret their participation. The guy has been sued recently, and in the news.
The concern you raise for me is how many Londoners would be familiar with the slang and American references?


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I suspect I'm fairly typical for a Londoner. We know what "schnockered" is (drunk, right?) and I don't think "snuff" is the word for the kind of movie you mean--and for me the mention of snuff is the biggest barrier to reading further.

I really didn't get from this intro that MC makes movies. I thought he watched them, and was selecting a whore to visit him from some kind of catalogue. Nor was it clear that the teens were turning up having made and regreted a movie. I thought they were whores, from the catalogue.

I seem to be on a different planet from the one you're describing. Maybe it's me ...

(Oh, I forgot in the previous post to say something nice about it. Mea culpa. I'd love to read a ... bold story, Deb, and if I could make sense of it I'd read on--but knowing you and your writing, I'd read on anyhow for a while.)

Cheers,
Pat


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Oh, I didn't get the "Girls Gone Wild" reference at all, and I'm familiar with it. From the mention of splatter films and snuff, I thought snozzled must mean a sexual death faked for camera.
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you guys are scaring me.
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