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rich
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I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place for this, or if this is a subject verboten around here, but here's a nice little rant about self-publishing and POD.

It was written in response to a writer on CNET, who was detailing his experience with self-publishing his own book. Either way you look at it, it's grim, but both articles are good reading. It may also help you decide if self-publishing is the way to go or not.


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C L Lynn
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Excellent topic. I'm interested in seeing what people have to say about POD, since I'm on the verge of resorting to it myself.
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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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I just wish college textbook publishers would go to POD. Seems that the textbooks wouldn't cost more than the tuition that way.
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rich
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My own somewhat uninformed opinion is that self-publishing, especially POD, will only gain in popularity. The state of publishing is precarious for anyone not named Stephen King or JK Rowling.

Though I think the link I provided makes valid points, I'm not sure those points will be valid in another 5-10 years. My kids' generation won't have a problem buying their Facebook friends' books. With the falling domino-like effect of the publishing houses I think more and more mid-list writers, writers who were published by conventional means, will resort to POD because the major publishing houses will no longer support their work, i.e. unless it can be made into at least a trilogy and be optioned in Hollywood it's just not worth it for the publisher. (sorry for the run on sentence--looks like i'm a prime candidate for self-publishing)

The stigma of "self-published" will fade, and it wouldn't surprise me if self-published books drop in price as more and more people go that route. I also think that the current self-publishing companies like Lulu will change their business model, becoming a hybrid of current major publishers/small publishers and self-publishing companies. They would invest much more in promising artists as opposed to just taking money up front and forgetting about them.

I have seen the future, and it's POD.


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I've bought a fair number of POD published books, textbooks and reference books, college textbooks, too. I've made a few POD books myself. Edited and laid out one for a university press that's sold through on expectations, but remains in print. Sold a few of my own homemade ones as well. One, a chapbook, I sold 600 copies of at a tidy profit.

POD or print on demand has a place in the publishing industry. Short print runs of less than a thousand are the biggest advantage of POD, mostly cost benefits from PQN, Print Quantity Needed, and just-in-time inventory management. Out of print books can affordably be brought back in print through short run POD printings. POD is a great way to produce Advance Review Copies for distribution to reviewers and get attention from other venues, other than the big six publishers. Standalone POD books generally do better with nonfiction content than fiction. At least one bestselling novelist was discovered from her POD published novel, that was then picked up by the majors and widely marketed.

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On the other hand, book manufacturers like Lulu, XLibris, and Lightning Source exclusively sell manufacturing services. All are either subsidiaries of or have distributor relationships with Ingram Industries, Inc., the leading US book wholesaler and distributor.

With a little knowledge of book layout and packaging techinques, proficiency with an application software that exports to Adobe PDF format, or the Adobe Distiller native software itself, and a few ISBNs, anyone can become a publisher through engaging book manufacturing services.

At Lulu is where vanity publishing is a plausible bookmaking outcome that's not totally deprecated. Say, the desire to see one's work in print is the sole goal--nothing like seeing one's work in a professional package--no sales or marketing intended, perhaps a few copies for family and friends, maybe even more for a local sales outlet. Upload a few files, and order one copy. Though no purchase is required for uploading, no printing happens until there's an order. The one copy is intended as a proof copy in the Lulu process. About ten bucks for a hundred-page 6" by 9" trade paperback with color cover. At 25 copies there's a price break. Deeper price breaks at higher numbers.

Much more than one thousand copies and a POD publisher is not a very practical manufacturing method. I know of livingroom publishers who use Lulu for manufacturing services, and then they flog the books themselves, regional, health, self-help, and children's books their main lines in local bookstores and direct online sales.

Duplo makes a desktop POD binder that does perfect binding. I've worked with one. It produced first-quality product, up to 200 books a day. The DB-280 costs about $10,000, the least expensive one on the market. Add a book trimmer, a highspeed black ink laser printer for body page printing, a color laser printer for covers, a laminator for sealing covers, two computers for layout and printing, about $50,000 for equipment, setup, and operation, and Bob's your uncle.

Me, I'm inclined toward Lulu for my next book publication. Not even my home chapbook press is as inexpensive as Lulu. Once I complete it, a nonfiction title, though, my goal is to distribute about a hundred copies to a select audience for review and commentary.


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Interesting points, Rich. I already know people who are willing to print out the entire texts of e-books on their home laser, just for the sake of having physical pages in their hand. That has nothing to do with a dislike of amateur book design, artwork, etc. and everything to do with the cheapness of ink and paper.

I think it speaks to the way the spread of information has changed with the rise of computers. It is becoming much harder for central institutions to control information dispersion, whether they are totalitarian governments or major publishing houses.


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JamieFord
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I think POD is certainly viable for non-fiction, where the subject is highly targeted. But, for fiction, I really have my doubts.

Printing is not an obstacle to sales. Lack of distribution is.


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William P. Young's christian children's fiction novel The Shack is a runaway bestselling self-published book. 5 million copies in print since May 2007. Windblown Media publisher, formed by Young and two partners, publishes and distributes the book mostly online through a dedicated Web site, zero marketing, solely parol (word-of-mouth) advertising. They began with a local job shop for printing services, then graduated to a POD manufacturer. It's too large for that now.

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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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I would not call THE SHACK a children's novel, Christian or otherwise.

I think it's a cool book, but it is definitely not a children's book.


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I haven't read it. I've queried fourth grade equivalent homeschooled kids who were reading it when I encountered them. Apparently, if not factually, Young wrote The Shack for his six children as a Christmas present. Grimm's Fairy Tales were written for children. Aesop's Fables are teaching stories for children. Alice in Wonderland apparently wasn't written for children, but is widely read to or by children. Much disturbing content in them.

Not having read The Shack, I can't say whether I'd encourage a child to read it, but I wouldn't balk out of concern the content wasn't suitable. A few years back I was involved in a child abuse prevention program through a public service project for a rape crisis center. One thing I came away with is even young children are often more savvy than adults give them credit for.

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Self publishing and POD are two different things.

Provided it makes economic sense, POD can only become more common.

Self publishing's different. I think there will always be a place for publishers, because they help sort the wheat from the chaff for their readers.

If you pick up a book published by TaleSpinner you have to read it before you know whether it's any good. If it's published by Tor (and I hope it will be one day) you know it's probably a good read.

I don't believe publishers are only interested in books that will become movies. There will always be a place for the written word as an art form in its own right. It's being squeezed, sure, by movies and games and on-line interactions, but it'll never disappear and there will be publishers who learn to use modern technology to deliver books. (And magazines.)

Cheers,
Pat


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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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A deeper discussion of whether or not THE SHACK qualifies as a children's book would hijack this topic. I hope it will suffice for me to say that I don't disagree with what you've said about children being able to read adult work, but I still say the book is not a "children's book" per se.
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Self-publishing and POD are two different things today. Tomorrow, I don't think they will be. (Not tomorrow tomorrow, but, you know..."tomorrow") Non-fiction will arrive at that symbiosis sooner than fiction, but fiction will follow behind. I think the business model will change to accomodate POD for all but the most successful of writers.

I think JamieFord is spot on when he (or she, sorry, I'm not familiar enough with everyone yet) says distribution is the key. The traditional method--brick and mortar--is being squeezed, and have been squeezed for some time. It's not just the current economy, but independent bookstores have been closing for awhile, and even big ones, like Borders, are in trouble. Amazon had a kuh-razy business model when they first came on the scene and there was more than one economist who said they couldn't sustain that business model--quantity over profits--and that it would eventually fail. It hasn't.

So we're left with only a few stores that one can actually walk into, which leaves the distribution up to the 'Net. I think POD will co-opt self-publishing as the term, and method, in which major publishers will turn to for distribution.

Publishers have been struggling for a long time now. I don't think they're going away--I mean, we've gotta get Laura Bush's memoirs SOMEHOW--but I do think that their business model will change from large scale distribution to physical stores, to a POD/self-publishing hybrid.


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