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Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Was Hot Sleep literally his first novel or the first one published? See, I've read various places that one has to write about ten novels before producing a good one.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I don't know the answer, but it doesn't have to be the first one published to be his first novel.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 233) on :
 
Hot Sleep wasn't a novel as such, was it? It was a collection of short stories involving somec and memory taping.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Pretty much.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
I think Ender's Game was his first novel idea.

I also think the Worthing Stories were his first sold short stories.

I'm not sure about first novel, but I think EG was also first here.
 
Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
 
You're both forgetting about "Capitol" I think.
 
Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
 
Oh, here it is. A couple clicks brought me here
Might help ya out.
 
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
 
It was my first novel, and my first published novel. I've never written a novel that was not already under contract to be published.

Hot Sleep was written as a novel, though a badly structured one. Capitol was the collection of stories about somec.

My first published short story was, technically, Gert Fram, which was published in the July 1977 Enslgn Magazine. My first short story to be sold (and my first sci-fi sale) was Ender's Game, which appeared in the August 1977 Analog - which came out within a few days of the July Ensign that year.

The stories "Tinker" and "Worthing Farm" and "Worthing Inn" were the first sci-fi short stories I wrote with intent of publication, but they did not sell until much later - they felt too much like fantasy. These stories "from the Forest of Waters" were not published until after both Hot Sleep and Capitol.

[ October 18, 2005, 02:48 PM: Message edited by: kacard ]
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
I guess that settles it then.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I've read Hot Sleep, Capitol, and both Worthing books. I can't keep them straight in my head for the life of me.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I have the same problem, mph.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 233) on :
 
Because they share so much material.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
The Ensign published Ender's Game?
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Analog, I think he meant to say.
 
Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
 
I actually have an original copy of that issue of analog. Got it signed and everything [Smile]
 
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
 
I thought "Listen, Mom and Dad" was your first book?

I quote you from a Cincinnati book signing when I handed it to you: "Wow! My first book! Where did you get this?"

Is this a different thread since it’s fiction instead of a non fiction book?
 
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
 
Yes, your "first book" is different from your "first novel".

Card's first publication, period, was a poem he wrote as a young teenager for a Church magazine, I believe ...
 
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
 
Actually, it was written for my fourth grade teacher, Mrs. Schroeder, at her request; she submitted it to a California state teachers newslater, which published it. I'm sure it was in the "how cute" category. It was actually a seasonal duplicate of a Christmas poem I had written for class - at least it began the same. I remember it was published on the same page as a cute saying by another kid, who was writing in response to the question, "How can you take care of your teeth?" His answer was what you'd expect: Brush your teeth after every meal, don't eat candy, and "Watch out for pushers at the drinking fountain." I think his comment was better than my poem <grin>.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 233) on :
 
Oh...I just now figured out what that kid meant by "pushers".

Still, it's also important to stay off meth, kids. Your teeth will definitely thank you!*

*teeth will not actually thank you.
 


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