on the homepage Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Yay!
Posted by Phillyn (Member # 12597) on :
Looks good!
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
Fantastic! So, do the Cards like it?
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Ooh, good question! OSC has been very diplomatic but positive about the film, and I'm very curious if that's 1) contractual, 2) going to continue until the film comes out (and hopefully not after ?
Posted by kacard (Member # 200) on :
We think the trailer looks great.
[ May 08, 2013, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: kacard ]
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Is that an opinion that can be quoted in other places, or would you prefer it to be kept to this thread?
Also, thanks for letting us know! It's nice to have a place (so far) that isn't quite disappointed about the trailer in the forums.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
How do you guys feel about the final shot with the planet? Do you think it gives away too much? Personally, I think it's fine for people who haven't read the book, but fans of the series might be annoyed.
I can't wait for November!
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Yes, I was a bit annoyed. Though perhaps I shouldn't be - as people say - if you haven't read the book, it's not really a spoiler, it's just a boom - and it's good to know it'll be in the film.
Also, I'm so extremely thrilled that the Ender and Valentine scene at the lake is in the film (at least in the trailer) - that kind of scene would only get in the film if they really wanted to be respectful to the book, and not if they wanted to conform to Hollywood action cliches. Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
I think it was a mistake. People who haven't read the book don't know about it now, but many of them are going to figure it out during the movie, at the very least in the last battle scene where Ender is presented with a seemingly impossible fight and he hasn't blown up a planet like they've seen in the trailers. Even if it doesn't give away that it's not just training (and I believe that for many people it will), it's still going to kill any suspense as to how he's going to win.
Also, if the bit in the trailer is as it was filmed, the emotional tone of the scene is very wrong. This wasn't a "Heck Yeah!" moment done by a resolute Ender.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
I'm not convinced Asa was projecting "Heck yeah!" It's hard to tell, but my impression was more intense seriousness, that might be commensurate with the desperation he felt in the novel.
Posted by Kelly1101 (Member # 12562) on :
When I saw the planet explode, my jaw dropped. Like... you're going to just give away the ending?
But, hopefully non-readers won't remember it.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Well, apparently people who haven't read the book have no clue what's going on.
I remember the Avengers trailer, where they spoiled the ending in regards to Iron Man. So spoiling endings is definitely a stupid trailer thing that doesn't necessarily mean the movie will be bad.
Posted by madvogon (Member # 12938) on :
Just saw the trailer at Star Trek: Into Darkness.
Unfortunately, all my previously stated fears were confirmed. I was screaming at the screen. My wife has not had such an adverse reaction to a trailer since the awful bastardization that was I, Robot. I will have to find someone else to take me to the movie due to my disabilities. They didn't do this much harm to Jumper.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Sorry you felt that way Posted by madvogon (Member # 12938) on :
This is the wife: When the trailers inform you that the movie has departed from the book in fundamental ways, you need to decide if you will vote with your money for future assaults on your sensibilities or if you will drop the hubby off at Ender's Game and go watch another movie.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
I will be very interested to see if the ways the trailer seems to indicate the movie will depart from the book are actually ways the movie departs from the book. Posted by Kelly1101 (Member # 12562) on :
That... I didn't see much of the plot of the movie at all. Mostly just shots of the Academy Award Nominated/Winning cast... seems like they were pimping the cast much more than the plot, so, too soon to tell.
Well, I mean, everyone is aged up but we knew that already.
Posted by Kelly1101 (Member # 12562) on :
And the shot of the Battle Room was pretty epic. Have to admit that. Cannot WAIT.
Damn now I want to watch it now.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
I'm extremely excited too, Kelly! I just started my reread of the book (I'm hoping to read every Ender book and short story in the six months we have between now and the movie). It's just as good as I remember, though wow the first and second chapter are amazing foreshadowing I've never caught before.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I have to admit, the first two times I watched the trailer, I didn't even see the planet exploding near the end. So, I'm not particularly worried about it being a spoiler, since I might be surprised if most people even remember it from the trailer at all.
In general though, it's a bit like showing the Death Star exploding at the end of the trailer for Star Wars or something. I found it odd.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Just popped my head in to say my son works at a movie theater and as an employee contest prize, he just won an Ender's Game one-sheet! How cool is it to have a movie poster already?
Now, I just need to find a place where Scott is doing a signing and get the one-sheet signed!
Posted by Roseauthor (Member # 148) on :
Amazing Trailer! I've only waited for this for a decade and and a 1/2 .. LOL
I will have to wrap my mind around the characters being older than the written characters but I'm quite excited to see this and anticipating the release of the movie!
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
I wish I could figure out a way to come to a signing - they never happen close to me. Well, closeish.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Yeah, he rarely, if ever, does signings anywhere near me either. But I'm in a fly-over state, so what are ya gonna do. He once did a signing near my parents though, so I do have a signed copy of a book they bought me. And he sent me a signed copy of a book once, but I've never gotten to meet him.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
That's so cool!
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Great interview about the movie, OSC's involvement, and the Ender's Game Alive audio drama.
What he said about the core of Ender's Game, and how he translated it to the audio drama, makes me EVEN MORE excited about that.
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
The audio drama news is really comforting to me. Even if the movie disappoints, we'll still have the audio drama. It will be interesting to compare Hood's and Card's different approaches to adapting the novel to a medium where you can't, as they say, "get in the character's head."
It's interesting how Card selects his words to describe the film. In the interview, he says he has seen a rough cut, which is a significant step up from when last we heard from him, when he said that he hadn't actually read the whole script, but rather trusted his family and friends to vet it and give him a report (something about blood pressure and referring to his stroke).
Now, having seen it, he chooses to use the words "sharp," "tight," and "emotional" to describe the movie. And he admits there are changes that "will annoy some fans," but that's true of any movie adaptation I've ever seen. Perhaps most tellingly, he says the movie contains "much of what works in 'Ender's Game'" (emphasis added). This begs the question of what that worked in the book was omitted in the movie.
I wonder if I'm one of the fans that will be annoyed by the changes. I like to think of myself as tolerant of pragmatic adaptation (after all, I survived all eight Harry Potter films), but Ender's Game is pretty dear to me. I'm trying to imagine what would be a dealbreaker. I'd probably put a romantic subplot at the top of that list.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
That's pretty much my hope too, C3PO!
I'm really with you on the romantic subplot. I know I'm overreacting to the EW shots of Ender and Petra holding hands...but then I think back to Prince Caspian, when they threw the idiotic romance in there, and it was a huge secret because they knew how fans would react.
But OSC has been pretty up front about how a romance subplot is ridiculous in Ender's Game, so I'd hope that unless his NDAs are incredibly hardcore, he wouldn't refer to an added romance as "annoying."
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
There's a neat new survey you can take to be assigned to one of the four armies - Dragon, Asp, Rat, and Salamander (I got Asp!)
The video introduces the recruitment story, and has a link to the survey site.
I like this Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
Asp is the Hufflepuff of Battle School.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Anybody see/read any of the cool Ender's Game film stuff coming out of Comic Con? The passion the cast and crew seem to have for the book is really hopeful, I think.
Posted by Sa'eed (Member # 12368) on :
Any word on a new trailer? That one felt like a teaser. I want a more substantive trailer where a voice-over goes "in a world where..."
Posted by Sa'eed (Member # 12368) on :
Also I'm interested in the speculation regarding who actually wrote this film. I'm perturbed that the Transformers guys might've penned it, but the screenplay credit goes to Gavin Hood. What's the deal?
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
The Transformers guys are pretty clear that Hood wrote it in all interviews.
I too would like a new trailer, though. Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Also new trailer fan competition thing!
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
Bleh, stupid viral marketing scheme. I can't hold it against them, but I'm really tired of Hollywood trying to be vogue by coercing fans into spamming their friends.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
It's not the best, yes, but I like the general idea Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
I'm a bit irked by Valentine's dumbed down "If you don't try, we all die" comment - Ender knew the stakes at the lake, it was helping to care about them and hope that his soul could be salvaged that was important. Maybe that's the point of the scene, and they just didn't have any context for "You're not like Peter."
Looks like Chamrajnagar will be in the film!
The formation for the final battle looks pretty good. And Mazer seems to have a Kiwi accent, quite appropriately (I don't know if it's a good one, though).
Still inist on putting the ending in the trailer, though.
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
Ender kinda looks like he's conducting an orchestra.
Posted by MathTeacherGuy (Member # 13034) on :
Kind of odd, that the portion of the book I always found most boring (where Ender commands the fleets and saves the world) is the exciting action-packed portion that the trailers constantly show off. In fact, I think showing actual fleets flying around as Ender commands is the bigger spoiler. Based off of the footage we're seeing in the trailers, I'm having a hard time imagining that they'll pull off the big surprise in the movie.
And I second that orchestra comment.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
I think what most of the people following the movie have speculated is that we, the audience, will know the truth - the impact at the end will be seeing Ender's reaction to learning it.
Posted by MathTeacherGuy (Member # 13034) on :
I guess that makes sense. Well, either way, it still looks like it'll be a good movie.
Posted by heresolong (Member # 12918) on :
So for all the complaints about showing the world blowing up at the end as a spoiler, has no one noticed that the poster has "This is not a game" printed across the middle of it! Talk about spoilers, they just gave away the whole thing.
Posted by MathTeacherGuy (Member # 13034) on :
I actually was thinking the same thing when I first looked at the poster. Of course, nothing in the trailer feels at all game-like...
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's no speculation, millernumber1. The fact that Ender's "game" is not actually a game is revealed to the audience very early. There is no surprise twist in this version of the script.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Set reports are going up on all the fansites! Lots of really cool stuff - Mind Game, speculative future, structure, etc.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
New clips - and they allay the fears raised by the trailer that the final battle will be a "heck yeah" moment, since the "NOW" shout is from a different section.
I am heartened by these clips!
Posted by vineyarddawg (Member # 13007) on :
Dang it... now I wish I hadn't watched those clips. I can't wait to see the movie! Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Why would you wish that? Excitement for the movie is good! Posted by vineyarddawg (Member # 13007) on :
Well, excitement is one thing... wondering to yourself, "Is it November 1st yet?" every five minutes or so is quite another. Posted by MathTeacherGuy (Member # 13034) on :
Just pre-ordered my ticket. A theater within walking distance has several showings on the 31st, so I'm pretty stoked about that.
Posted by millernumber1 (Member # 9894) on :
Hee. I'm hoping to see it in IMAX. I really hope it's good, so my plans for watching it many times actually happen!
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