The schroedinger reference seemed verrry forced. He used it to say someone could be in two places at once... but the schroedinger's cat is about the cat being in different states, in a known place (the box). But I guess it works to say that if you don't know where someone is they could be anywhere... Anyone care to expunge? my thoughts on the reference?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I thought he meant to say "Well, he's either alive or dead."
Which is a very House thing to say. Because you see, he doesn't care. (Unless, of course, it inconveniences him.)
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
Reading your comments, I got really confused until I remembered the episode I just watched was on the S3 DVDs, not TV.
I liked seeing Jacob Carter with House. Should be an interesting dynamic.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
which episode was this tell telll me tell mee!
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I am hoping that Kal Penn stays on, and I think they are setting it up. He was great in The Namesake.
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
We're talking about the second episode of the fourth season. It aired yesterday in the US.
Posted by Amilia (Member # 8912) on :
Well, it was interesting to see why the ducklings were still on the credits. I was assuming that their contracts expired and they didn't renew. Not so much, apparently.
Posted by LargeTuna (Member # 10512) on :
Show is so good Dude
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I'm surprised not to see any comments about the whole LDS/Tequila thing.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
I didn't see the end of last season. What happened? Did Chase, Cameron and Foreman all get fed up at the same time? I suppose I should go check one of those other threads kq linked to.
ETA: nope, the answer's not on those threads.
Posted by Jhai (Member # 5633) on :
Foreman was leaving because he hated the person House is and didn't want to turn into him. House was upset by this - although with House you can never be certain - and ended up firing Chase under the premise that Chase had been there the longest and no longer had anything to learn. And at the end of the episode, Cameron gave House her resignation letter.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
Thanks, Jhai. I remember the Foreman not wanting to turn into House part, but for some reason I thought he'd been talked out of resigning. But I never seem to watch House episodes in sequence, so my understanding of the story arc tends to be spotty, at best. (So far this season I watched episode 2 when it aired, then saw episode 1 on USA after that.)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, Lisa, we had a big discussion about it over on Nauvoo, if you want to go read it.
Or I can sum up:
Some of us thought it was a decision we would have made, some thought it was a decision we would not have made, most of us thought the religion was treated with respect (except House's in-character offensive snark) and our biggest nitpick was with a grammatical issue.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Thanks, KQ. That's interesting.
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
Lisa, most LDS who have watched the show were glad it represented an intelligent and self-willed character who is rather conservative and religious. That is something you almost never see for ANY religious character. That it was a Mormon character, at least for Mormons, was doubly satisfying.
As for the drinking incident, it boils more down to the thinking process (hard to tell and that is probably the point) rather than the act that made the decision good or bad. For instance, what if alcohol is safer than drinking water? Would it be used for taking the Sacrament? That is more likely to exist than saving a life.
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
I really enjoyed the first couple of episodes this season. Last year the show seemed a little bogged down with all the personal stuff and general angst going on between the characters - new people bring a new energy to the situation.
It feels more like the first season again.
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
Just for anyone who is following this show, and I am not enough fan myself to watch it, what exactly happened to lead up to Chase hitting House? I know what was said, but not why it came to the blow.
Posted by Philosofickle (Member # 10993) on :
House was conviced that Chase would never actually stand up to him. And hence deserved to be fired. Another nurse made a bet of 100$ that chase would eventually stand up for himself. House was as abusive as possible. It eventually came to Chase hitting house thereby saving his job, and losing house 100$.
Next question, do you think he'll be fired in episodes to come?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Um, that wasn't Chase. That was the LDS black dude. And it wasn't a nurse, either, it was Cameron.
Posted by Philosofickle (Member # 10993) on :
I stand corrected and now will go hang my head in shame and embarrassment, wait a month for this thread to truly die and be beyond memory, and then maybe post again.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote:That was the LDS black dude
His name is Cole
Posted by SenojRetep (Member # 8614) on :
Anyone want to pick the winning three?
My guess: the two girls and the Indian. Or, as FG would say, Lawrence, Amber and "13." I think Cole and Chris (aka aggravating Plastic Surgeon) are too one-dimensional, simply foils for House. And Travis (aka Doctors without Borders) hasn't, so far as I can tell, done anything. Maybe that makes him the sleeper, but I think it makes him easy meat.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
He has a name? I don't know any of the new people's names. I just call them by House's nicknames for them so far. I don't want to get too invested. 'Cause you know they're all gonna be gone soon.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Cameron even used it (his name) when she made the bet with House. Said "you're pushing Cole too hard" or something like that.
But yeah, their names are listed at http://www.fox.com/house/ (except for the elusive "thirteen")
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
(I knew he had a name. As I said, I just don't care enough to know it yet. But thanks for the list.)
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Spoiler Warning
The list of the actors who were hired as regulars has been online for nearly two weeks, and I am extremely happy that Kal Penn is one of them. I loved him in The Namesake.
[ October 29, 2007, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: JonHecht ]
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
Umm, spoiler warning, Jon? Of course, you haven't spoiled it for me because I have no idea which one the actor you mentioned is!
edited to remove the name you just mentioned and thanks for the spoiler warning, JonH!
[ October 29, 2007, 08:25 PM: Message edited by: Uprooted ]
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Yeah, I kind of assumed that anyone who actually knew that the guy's name is Kal Penn would be happy to hear that spoiler, and anyone else wouldn't know who the heck Kal Penn was. I'll add spoiler warning though, my apologies.
Posted by SenojRetep (Member # 8614) on :
So, last night when Mr. X came to the hospital, he initially claimed his name was "Martin Harris" which is a fairly significant name in LDS church history. Normally I would chalk it up to coincidence, but in this case, what with the major Mormon character, I wonder if it wasn't a deliberate "in" joke.
Also, in "Pushing Daisies" a couple weeks ago, the antagonist was named "Wilfred Woodruff," which is very similar to "Wilford Woodruff" another very prominent and quite unusual name from LDS church history.
Posted by Javert Hugo (Member # 3980) on :
I noticed that on Pushing Daisies. It caused a spittake.
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
So are they actually getting some new people to go on House's team? I might start watching again if they've really made a permanent change to the show.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I missed it last night. Who in the team got "voted off"?
Posted by SenojRetep (Member # 8614) on :
Spoiler warning:
No one, although House was critical of everyone's performance. Largely, it was due to Chase taking bets on who would be voted off, and then (when no one was) pocketing the money and giving 50% to House.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
They've already announced who the keepers are.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I think that was the first time I have ever seen Orthodox Jews portrayed correctly on TV. The only thing they did wrong was miss that you can bring Shabbat in early.
And I figured out that Wilson was seeing Amber in the previous episode specifically because she's a female version of House. They like having the plot and subplots run with a theme, and in the South Pole ep, it was clear that House was into the frozen shrink because she was a female Wilson, which was why I called Amber like a minute before she showed up.
Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
Oh yay, it's House, let's all watch a five-year-old girl bleed to death, while her eye balls shoot out of their sockets and she pukes up her liver.
Posted by Jhai (Member # 5633) on :
???
There's a lot of popular shows that are regularly more graphic than anything I've seen on House. And few with as interesting characters or storylines... But I guess YMMV.
Lisa, I'm glad they got (almost) everything right. I'm really liking this season, and the new faces (except 13, who bores me). And I'm glad Amber's back - she's fun.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I can just see all the HouseXWilson, WilsonXHouse fanfic cropping up.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*shudders*
Lisa, thanks for bumping the thread, I would have missed that it was a new one tonight otherwise.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
There's a new one tonight?! NOOOOOO!!!!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
It'll rerun in 2 weeks on USA Friday.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I'll just watch it online tomorrow.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: The only thing they did wrong was miss that you can bring Shabbat in early.
They got closer than a lot of shows -- especially this one! -- have. But I was spitting tacks over some of their shtick. Seriously, waiting so the surgery would actually BE ON SHABBOS? And risking her life to do so? The others were more subtle, but definitely irritating.
Tonight was not a good night for me to go back to watching House.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Synesthesia: I can just see all the HouseXWilson, WilsonXHouse fanfic cropping up.
Oh my, there is tons and tons of House/Wilson slashfic out there.
Me, I prefer Holmes/Watson. Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: Tonight was not a good night for me to go back to watching House.
Well, it was and it wasn't. Since this was the last one until the writers' strike gets fixed.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: The only thing they did wrong was miss that you can bring Shabbat in early.
They got closer than a lot of shows -- especially this one! -- have. But I was spitting tacks over some of their shtick. Seriously, waiting so the surgery would actually BE ON SHABBOS? And risking her life to do so? The others were more subtle, but definitely irritating.
Also, she's only been frum for 6 months. New BTs make dumb mistakes like that. And since the doctors weren't Jewish, I don't see that there was a problem with the surgery being on Shabbat. Risking her life to wait, yes, but Shabbat, no.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
I didn't expect the character to be consistent or very knowledgeable in her application of Jewish law--like Lisa said, she hadn't been at it long and her decisions were highly emotional.
I certainly can't speak for the accuracy of the portrayal, but I enjoyed it.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
quote: New BTs make dumb mistakes like that.
What does "BT" mean?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I believe that would be "baal teshuva", according to wikipedia "a person who has repented", a term for a newly observant Orthodox Jew-- someone who grew up not observant and has become observant later in life. The woman mentioned it at the beginning of the episode, IIRC...
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Also, there's no way they would have called the husband Yonatan. It would have been Yonasan. And the way the matchmaker pronounced Yonatan (like Jonathan, but with the J as a Y and the th as a t: "YAH-nuh-tin") showed a lack of research. It's "YO-nuh-tahn." YO-nu-sahn, rather.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Quite a good episode. Not being orthodox, I can't exactly say how accurate it was, but I recognized a few things from my time at an orthodox synagogue. Nostalgic... not that I would ever want to go to one again (No offense, but I was never able to understand what anyone was saying. Now does that bring me closer to God?)
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
How easy do you want things? If you want to understand, it's learnable.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
What I liked about it - and I say this as an apatheist - was that while House ridiculed the religion and the religious, the source of the medical ailment was not a weakness or mental problem on her part. I was half expecting that, for the writers to prove House "right" about the motivations and strength of the religious.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: What I liked about it - and I say this as an apatheist - was that while House ridiculed the religion and the religious, the source of the medical ailment was not a weakness or mental problem on her part. I was half expecting that, for the writers to prove House "right" about the motivations and strength of the religious.
Definitely. That (almost) redeemed the episode for me.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I don't want to understand enough to learn Hebrew. Particularly not when I was only nine.
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