For those of you unfamiliar with this publication, On The Premise is an online magazine that publishes every three months. They present a premise - more like a trigger - to follow. They ask for word counts between 1000 to 5000 words (and they are firm on those numbers). The editors serve as the slush readers, picking the best 9, and passes them along for an independent panel to judge.
Although they are not consider a pro-publication, they have a list of prizes that could pay you far more than the standard 5 cents a word, depending on how long your story is and how well it does. For example, if you finish first, and write a story close to 1000 words, you'll receive a healthy 18 cents a word for your piece. (beat that Clarkesworld).
This contest has a premise that is right up so many hatrackers alley, Myths and Legends. In fact, I'm betting almost everyone has a piece resting in their trunk they could submit right now.
This is what I am hoping for, a support group like the WotF that WriterDan runs. Unlike WotF, OTP announces how many authors submit every contest (expect 200), is open to all (even pro's like Brad, Ben, Adam, Pat, Eric, and yes even you She Who Musy Be Obeyed), is not restrictive to speculative fiction, and will give you (for ten bucks) and complete critique with a valid reason why our story didn't make the top 9.
So we can do this a couple of ways, run this just as they do in the WotF group, or turn this into a trigger challenge - post 13 lines and have fun picking the best of the bunch.
So who's in? If interested, copy the list below and add your name.
Snapper
Posted by shimiqua (Member # 7760) on :
I've got a story that will work.
Snapper shimiqua
Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
It might be nice if someone mentioned somewhere here on the forum (yes, I know it's on the contest website, but that's on the contest website) that the deadline for this contest is
quote:11:59 PM Eastern Time, Friday, September 30, 2011
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Posted by wirelesslibrarian (Member # 9513) on :
Count me in. Can't resist an opportunity to escape reality once again. Wait, did I say that out loud?
Posted by Owasm (Member # 8501) on :
I'm a sucker for contests. I'm in. I'd prefer the WotF route rather than the First 13. I also think a combination of both might be fun, since we've done that in the recent, recent past.
Snapper Shimiqua WirelessLibrarian Owasm
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Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Great! 4 so far with two others showing interest. How do you want to do this? Exchange scripts? Shimiqua and Owasm have already read mine (months ago), although I believe mine could use a bit of tweaking before I send it off.
Anayway, I have a story I was planning on entering anyway. It's just a bit over one thousand words but I have to slightly tweak a couple of sentences to make sure it fits the premise, so that will take it over a thousand a little more.
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Posted by WolfCreature (Member # 9486) on :
Snapper,
I know OTP's deadline. I should have been clearer. I was inquiring about the deadline for the critiquing group. Since you are organizing it, what is the deadline for the stories to be submitted to the group for critique? Also, are you going with the WotF route, or the trigger challenge, or both?
Good question. How much time would everyone like? Does everyone have one ready to go or do you need time?
The contests deadline is about 8 weeks from now. We'll need to give everyone time to read and critique all the stories (if we don't get much more than we have now we should be able to read them all), and time for everyone to absorb and make changes to their script.
How about a loose deadline of Aug. 21. If you're not done before that, no problem but guarantees that you'll get a critique from everyone won't be firm. Let's guarantee critiques for any submit before the loose deadline be done returned by Sept. 11th, plenty of time to fix your script.
As far as anonymous, that works for me. Everyone will know which one I wrote but that's okay with me. Fair game since I'll know who wrote and critiqued what. If we go this route, would you like me to post the opening 13's as I get them?
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Out of curiosity, why would you go anon? This is for a contest for another website.
Axe
Posted by Owasm (Member # 8501) on :
Because, there be prizes! Arrgh!
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
There's prizes for WotF too, but we help each other out. Is it because there's a lot less entrants?
I'm just curious, not trying to be a stick in the mud.
Axe
Posted by Owasm (Member # 8501) on :
Actually, I don't see a reason to go anonymous in this. It's not really a contest amongst ourselves but a critiquing group.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Owasm
Is it talk like a pirate day already? Or are you related to pirates?
Anon? Arrg... to be or not to be that be the Ghost of Davy Jones question.
Actually, I can go either way but it would be less complicated to use our names.
Posted by KathiS (Member # 9542) on :
I may throw my hat in the ring...have to research a little first. Seems most of you already have something that would work. I need to start from scratch. (And I'm scratching my head now wondering why I'm considering this!) Oh, I know, it would be a good challenge for me because I don't think I've written a short story since college. I can't seem to fit a story into that few words. LOL First I will need an idea, form that into a plot, get a character, a situation.....
I'll make a final decision by the weekend.
Was the deadline of the 21st decided upon? And a format?
kls
BTW, I like pirates.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
The anonymous request is from wolfcreature. I know the rest of you have no problem with passing critiques back and forth but WC is still the new kid and easing his way in.
I'll go with the majority but do think WC's input would be a benefit to everyone. I cannot stress on how throrough his insights are. He can be blunt with his opinions but I usually find I agree with him.
Posted by Crank (Member # 7354) on :
I almost passed by this thread with no intent of coming back. I don't write "Myths and Legends" stories. But, as it just so happens, I came across some handwritten notes for a potential story that just might fit the trigger. I won't throw my hat in until I've completed my WotF critique group responsibilities, but I think this particular contest might push my writing abilities in a direction they've not been before.
What have we decided about the possibility of posting the First 13 on the board?
BTW...my kids like asking me this question when their mother is in hearing distance: "Dad, what's your favorite letter?"
"'S'. It comes right after the letter Aaaarrrrrr!"
S! S!
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Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
quote: I almost passed by this thread with no intent of coming back. I don't write "Myths and Legends" stories. But, as it just so happens, I came across some handwritten notes for a potential story that just might fit the trigger. I won't throw my hat in until I've completed my WotF critique group responsibilities, but I think this particular contest might push my writing abilities in a direction they've not been before.
Pushing and stretching ourselves is part of the process.
Part of why this forum is here too. So I would say go for it, your story and results could very well surprise you. The story will probably be good at least.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
I have one that may or may not fit, so I'll give it a try.
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Posted by KathiS (Member # 9542) on :
Oh, what the heck. Some characters and a situation popped into my head yesterday and I wrote several hundred words, just have to work the myth/legend theme into it. So...
Maybe we should give everybody updates on where we stand.
Snapper - story is written but I need to do some editing. I also need to rewrite one scene. I could be ready to send it to everyone in a couple of days.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Mine is written also and as I have said I just need to tweak a line or two to make sure the premise can be seen. But I may also add a tiny bit to make sure it's over 1,000 words. I can probably add to a description and/or add a bit to the five senses I keep referencing in crits to other people.
So if I did it this weekend the story could be ready to send out by Monday- I have a couple of other things to tweak. If everyone else is ready by then that is.
Posted by wirelesslibrarian (Member # 9513) on :
Umm, I do NOT have a story ready, but I'll start writing this weekend. Should be able to send a draft out mid-week. So pushy.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Mine is written, and Axe has read it, over a year ago, but it will need to be updated a bit.
Posted by KathiS (Member # 9542) on :
I'm with Wireless. No story yet although I do have several hundred words and some idea where it's going. I'm not sure how to fit the myth & legend into it yet and that's my hang-up. Should have something ready by mid-week. (Fingers crossed, although it's hard to type that way.)
kls
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
For those of you not ready, no need to rush it. Still plenty of time. I am worried that a sudden flood of stories to read and crit will discourage progress.
This is what I have in mind. Hopefully this will spur participation and inspiration. On a new thread, those who are ready can post their openings. Then on this thread (don't want the entry one to get muddled), others will post to the writer that they are ready to read it (and perhaps offer advice on the opening).
Does this plan sound workable?
Posted by KathiS (Member # 9542) on :
quote:This is what I have in mind. Hopefully this will spur participation and inspiration. On a new thread, those who are ready can post their openings. Then on this thread (don't want the entry one to get muddled), others will post to the writer that they are ready to read it (and perhaps offer advice on the opening).
Sounds good to me. If I keep with what I have I have the opening at least. Are we sticking to 13 lines for that?
kls
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
I'd like to join if it isn't too late. I was trying to sleep and a story idea came to me just now for this contest.
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Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Just finished my first draft today at 2500 words. Very unusual for me to bang out an entire story in a single day.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Launching the group. Details can be found here.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Ready for an exchange, Orsis? Let me buzz you.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Yes, sure thing snapper.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Sent my story to you. Let me know if you got it or not.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Send me yours, Owasm. You already read my submission before so you won't need to it again.
Posted by Owasm (Member # 8501) on :
My story is ready for critting, but not submitting.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
UPDATE:
I have read, reviewed, and sent back Owasm's story. I have received Shimiqua's and will be reviewing it next. Osiris, I am still waiting for yours.
Send me yours LDWriter. I have an open weekend, a good time to hit me.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Hi Snapper,
I'm showing my sent box that I sent it to you on Wednesday. I responded directly to yours, and sent it in both RTF and DOCX format.
Can you check your inbox again and let me know if you didn't get it? Maybe it got shunted to junk mail?
Also, my backlog of crits is down to two. I have one more before I get to yours Snapper. Anyone else is welcome to exchange with me as well.
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Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
I checked, Osiris. Nothing. Inbox and spam has nothing from you, unless of course your the Sudanesse whose late father's brother's stole all his assests and you need my bank account # so you can send his holdings to me (for a generous 10% reward) and get your families good name and property back to its proper place. If so I apologize for deleting it. Maybe you should resend it.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
LOL. Okay I just resent it. Let me know if you don't get it.
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Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
UPDATE:
I have read and reviewed...
Owasm Shimiqua Osiris
Willing to read...
LDWriter Utahute
Just send them away!
Posted by Owasm (Member # 8501) on :
I'm also willing to read anything sent my way.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Oops, got a little behind with my reading here-out of town and all that. Therefore behind on sending my story out. I can do that tomorrow if everyone still has time and I can read anyone's who wants another crit.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
On OTP's facebook page they have reported 78 entries thus far, and there is still 6 weeks left before the deadline.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Hmm, seventy-five doesn't seem a lot but as you said there are six more weeks.
My story is now readied, at about 1040 words. If those who said they would critique it still can. And I haven't received any stories to look over. Is everyone still busy with their stories or did I miss the rush?
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Send it to me, LDWriter.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
OK, now that I'm back and semi-caught up you guys can send stories my way. I've sent mine to both Snapper and OWASM.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Utahute72 you can send it to me.
And as I have hinted at earlier anyone can send a story my way.
Mine will be going out later tonight.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Got Utahute72's.
Just wanted to say that my story had unusual inspiration.
Two of my wife's ceramic pieces. She had both displayed while working on them and this opening came to me as I stared at them.
Here is one piece. The other one doesn't seem to be displayed even though I'm sure we have a pic of it... (shoulder shrug)maybe I'll try posting it on google+.
I could probably come up with other story ideas; her laying, purpled maned unicorn looks inspirational.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
UPDATE: I have read and reviewed...
Owasm Shimiqua Osiris LDWriter Utahute
...and other than that this thread has become silent. So what is going on with the rest of ya???
Posted by Owasm (Member # 8501) on :
I've got one other that I haven't read.
I think mine's about ready to go.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
So far I've gotten one back from Snapper and read LDwriter's and returned.
Anyone who has one ready I can read, I can also ship mine to anyone who hasn't seen it.
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Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
I still have one story to do. Problem is I need to go back over it, I've only found one thing to say about it.
And I need to redo my story one more time. This story won't take long but the Q4 story, which also needs one more revision, will.
And now I can't find the original E-mail for that story someone sent, Most have deleted it by accident when I was cleaning out some old E-mails Or I'm just not seeing it, which sometimes happens. I apologize for that. It's not in the trash file either.
A nice WWII story with a twist too.
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Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
I've received stories from Snapper and Owasm. I've returned feedback for Snapper and am reading through Owasm's stories.
I'm happy to exchange with anyone else who'd like to do so. I've revised my own story considerably since I sent it out initially, so wouldn't mind feedback on the revised version.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
I sent in my story. With all the help it should get further than my previous entries. Of course there's only been one or two. And getting further probably isn't saying much because of where my story and writing started with this story.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
LDwriter that one is mine, tell me if I need to resend it
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
LDwriter that story is mine. Let me know if I need to resend.
Osiris send yours my way.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Utah, sent.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Utahute I have the story. I don't have a return e-mail address. But now that I know for sure who it is I can use the address that is connected to your posts.
I have some extra stuff to do today so expect it late afternoon or evening today. My time that is.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
LD I'm in a limited internet area until monday night, so that's fine
Osiris - got it, will give it a read and get it back to you early next week.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Okay, I sent my last crit. I'm free of any crits except for one more for another group. Well, I guess two. But that one won't take long.
Looks like there's time I could do one more from here. If I don't lose the file or the return e-mail that is.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Submitted mine. Thanks to everyone who gave it the once over. As always when I get around to submitting, the coinfidence I had for it has depleted. Oh well, someone has to win.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
So how many of us have or will submit? Looks like four at the most, which means we could all get something. HM at least. Three HMs or was that just for the mini-contest?
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
I'm definitely submitting, but I'm trying to get in as much revision as possible, so I won't submit until the 29th.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Just sent mine.
OTP's Facebook page has 99 "likes".
Anyone care to make it an even 100?
Axe
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Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Just submitted my story a couple of hours ago. Good luck all!
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Well mine just went. And to think I had a whole five hours plus to spare.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
OK, a question about OTP. I entered the mini contest and the submission was received. When I checked after I submitted the current story I saw that the entry was now marked declined. Is that because it didn't win, or because there was a glitch in the submission process. Only asking to see if I need to worry about the current contest.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
I'm not sure if this is the reason but OTP did announce the winners of the mini contest. You should have received a E-mail. I got that and a separate Newsletter. I think there was 87 entries, three place winners and maybe six (there seemed to be a contradiction there) HMs.
I also entered but didn't even get close my story is now on my blog even though you would have to scroll down a bit. Some day I will get around to putting it on my story page. I've posted a couple of stories there I don't mind not getting published.
There's also a rejection mini story I gave up on. Couldn't get it under 50 words.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Yea, LD, I didn't get the separate e-mail, only read the results in the newsletter. It appears that there is an issue with smishsmash for me. I'll give this one the weekend and then send a query to them.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
In my experience with other magazines with online tracking systems, 'declined' means they do not want the story.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
I would agree with the meaning of the word declined even though I have never seen it in a rejection E-mail. Hmm maybe once.
However, I believe we will know how we do way before we, over on the WotF Q4 thread will know about that contest.
And I would be surprised if at least one of us does get at least to the HMs. There are a couple good writers here and I think we all kept to the premise. Well, three of us anyway. I don't think I read the other two but there's a good chance they did too.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Well I've had a on-going e-mail conversation with them and evidently they did get the flash fiction entry, it made the finals but wasn't selected. They apologized for me not getting the e-mail result.
One thing they did say working against it was they get a number that are kid's point of view that are either their imaginings or daydreams. Mine was in that vein and that probably cost me.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Wow. Congrats, Ute. That meant you made the top 10%. I was sure my mini-entry had a shot. I was wrong.
Nice work. Hope you do better in the main contest.
BTW, expect answers around the tenth, everyone. I know from experience they read them as they come on, so the entries that were turned in at least a week before were read and teh better ones were set aside for the final decision.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Indeed congrats Ute.
With only 87, or was it 89, entries I thought mine would have a chance too but as usual I didn't get that far.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Thanks, but again not holding out much hope. I didn't get a lot of time to work on it given a busy schedule, computer problems and my incessant reworking of the WOTF entry. I think I got most of the comments from both of you in though, so we'll see.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Yep, just got my rejection today. I noticed the sample critique they posted was quite frank, yet respectful.
It convinced me to pay the $10 to get a critique of my story.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Got the same mass email reject myself. I will be buying a critique myself and will share it with whoever wants to see it.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Of course mine didn't reach the finalist stage either.
Surprised that neither of yours did but we have one more chance, maybe two to get someone from here in.
Thought about paying the ten dollars for a critique.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
I sent in my money and critique request last night. I also wrote him an email to accompany it. Now the editor is a guy I've talked to quite a bit, so I could describe our relationship as more of a personal one. It allowed me to respond, in my usual charming yet thinly sarcastic style (okay thinly may be a stretch), to whine about my rejection (so cool when you can get away with that to an editor). He sent me back a very enlightening response. I liked it so much I requested permission to post excerpts of it here.
If anyone would like to know what it said, email me and I'll fill you in.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Well mine didn't make it either.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Tarl Kudrick, editor, has granted me premission to post excerpts of his email. I will omit the personal commentary on my writing but offer you this bit about his publication and the difficulty of selling to it.
quote:The second thing working against you is, it's getting hard for ANYBODY to get into our magazine. In 14 published issues, we've had, what, five authors appear more than once? We've published something like 72 stories by somewhere around 67 different authors. Compare that to other magazines, in which the same authors show up again and again. More than that, every author we've published more than once (Ken Liu, Laura Loomis, you, Neil James Hudson, and somebody else I forget) have received at least one rejection letter AFTER having a story accepted by us. Ken, Laura, and Neil have all taken first place, and still had a story rejected by us after winning first place!
Why? Because we're dead serious about basing our judgments on stories, not authors. We might be the only fiction market where past success as a writer doesn't help you one bit. If Stephen King sends us an okay-but-not-great story for the next contest, his story isn't getting in. You think F&SF will say that? Even Ploughshares, a magazine known for its rotating guest editors (and therefore widely different kinds of stories in each issue), lets guest editors solicit up to half of each issue's works.
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Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
I was going to ask if you meant Tarl? I've e-mailed him a few times even though I've only entered a couple of contests. I have asked permission to posts excerpts from his Newsletter. He seems pretty nice.
But I'm not sure if their rules make it that much harder to get in. They don't go by the writer's name so pervious publishing or lack thereof doesn't matter but that doesn't influence how I write a story.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
So, I just checked my submishmash account. (Was waiting for an e-mail.)
My account is thus:
Submissions: 0 total results
Not having a good day over here. Seems they didn't even get my story.
Guess it's not a rejection.
Axe
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Correction. I logged in with user and password instead of my FB account and it's a rejection.
Better luck next time. Better luck next time.
Whoa, there's an echo in here.
Axe
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Boy, that means none of us even made it to the finalist stage. That is a surprise. You guys had some good stories and I was sure the writing wasn't bad either.
There will be having another contest at the beginning of next month.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
I received my critique from Tarl. It is helpful, and I'll see if he minds if I share some of it with you all if you are interested. It might be neat, in fact, if we all shared the critiques with each other so we can learn from each other. Anyone interested?
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
I am in Osiris and I wouldn't worry about permission. You paid for it. It's yours to do with as you wish.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Sent, Snapper.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
I didn't ask for the critique, but I would be interested what they told you.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Ditto.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Sure guys, no problem. Will send it off now.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
Me too
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Hey Osiris,
The email never came through. Would love to read it.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Ditto.
Posted by Utahute72 (Member # 9057) on :
Ditto, ditto
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Ugh, really? This is becoming a reoccurring problem with this e-mail account I set up for my writerly business. Okay, I'll resend in the morning, too sleepy right now.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Okay, I've sent to all three of you. Please tell me if you received it or not.
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Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Got it. Don't know how you feel about it, but I found it spot on.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Got my crit and sent it to the four people who sounded like they're interested in it.
If anyone else is dying to know why I wasn't a finalist let me know and I'll send it to you as well.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Osiris. Nothing yet. =(
Axe
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
I got yours Osiris. If your still having trouble with your email I could forward the crit on your behalf to Axe or anyone else who hasn't received it yet.
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Thanks Snapper, I just sent it to Axe. I have another e-mail account I can send from if I have to.
Axe let me know if you don't get it.
Posted by LDWriter2 (Member # 9148) on :
I have received two of them, one from snapper.
I ran into a minor road block with paying for a critique. I would have to use my wife's paypal account which means I would have to explain it all to her first.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Nope. =(
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Dustin, since some people got it and you didn't, I suspect one of two issues. Either my mail is going to your spam box, or that your host/server has my host/server blacklisted.
I know this is a lot to ask, but it'd help me troubleshoot this problem if you could find out if your ISP or hosting service has my service blacklisted. My service is called 'Bluehost'.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
I use godaddy. I've tried this route with them with some of my customers, they don't want to bother with it.
how about axeminister88@gmail.com
gmail is awesome.
Axe
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
Axe, did you ever get this from me to your other account?
I talked to bluehost and it sounds like the problem is on their end and they wanted a list of accounts I've tried but failed to send anything to.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
Sorry Osiris, I didn't get it on either.
Maybe I'm not meant to read it.
Axe
Posted by Osiris (Member # 9196) on :
No worries, I'll send it from another email account now. You should get it as the problem is clearly with bluehost and not you.
Posted by axeminister (Member # 8991) on :
