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Posted by WriterDan (Member # 6456) on :
 
This is a critique group for writers that will be entering a story for the fourth quarter of 2008 in the Writers of the Future contest (25th year).

Anyone is welcome to join. If you do though, please follow the directions for such. Currently, there are no members in the group. If you want to join the group for this quarter, please repost the current names list in a reply and add your name to the bottom.

Deadlines for this quarter's crits are as follows:

July 1st: Start writing.

August 7th: First drafts out for high-level crits (plot, character arc, etc.)

September 7th: Second drafts out for low-level crits and line edits

September 30th: Mail-in deadline for Q04

Sign up! And let's get busy writing!
 


Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
Since its getting a bit draughty in here, I thought I'd pop along and light a fire. The door's still open though for anyone who wants to join me by the hearth.

So here I am.

darklight.
 


Posted by AWSullivan (Member # 8059) on :
 
I noticed that this group is for the same quarter as the 'early submission' group but has a different schedule, intended to support the notion of early submission.

I'm just making sure that this group isn't intended to replace the early submission group that I have already joined.

Anthony
 


Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
No replacement, Anthony, but a parallel group for those of us who like to take it to the wire. Of course, cross critiquing is encouraged, especially if I'm the only member of this group.
 
Posted by AWSullivan (Member # 8059) on :
 
Haha! Ok that makes sense.

Well I'm planning on using the other groups schedule but I'm happy to critique your work if there is no one else available.
 


Posted by WriterDan (Member # 6456) on :
 
Yeah, there'll definitely bee cross-critiquing encouraged, if necessary. Annepin and I have already posted in the other group that we're open to that eventuality...um, possibility. Glad to see that you signed up for the group, darklight. Felt kind of odd starting the group and saying that there are currently NO members. Anyhow, hope we get people to sign-on. If not, we're right around the corner.
 
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
I wanted to be first in line so I sent my submission for this quarter yesterday.
 
Posted by WriterDan (Member # 6456) on :
 
Lol, snapper.

So should we make up another group for "super-early" submissions? Just kidding. We don't need any more stinkin groups. Great way to handle a barely-missed deadline though. Hopefully, you'll stick with the group here and put together a story in the next three months for the group to crit and you to turn in for NEXT quarter? Anyhow, hope we don't lose you.
 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Oh I could join, then submit to be first in line for the next quarter as well.
I'm thinking KDW may take the time to read mine on a slow day, and to get a jump on the next quarter.
Just let me know when you guys are ready.
 
Posted by Christopher (Member # 6336) on :
 
I'm in.
 
Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
Lol Christopher, I just said I'd help out at the other group, which still stands, as I was all alone here!

It's great to have you around.


Snapper, I couldn't submit so early. I simply couldn't wait that long to hear how my story did! It's bad enough when I have to wait a few weeks - which is why I like to get my story in late. Less waiting time.
 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Darklight, since you signed up on the other thread i sent you my story, and obviously I'd be more than happy to crit yours. Christopher, I'm happy to crit your stuff as well, esp since this board seems kinda empty.
 
Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
So, I've gotten about 8,000 word written of my WotF story for this quarter, and I'm looking at it, thinking somewhere, about two thousand words ago, it lost its way. It's essentially going in the right direction, doing what I intended it to, building up to the big finale, but not the way I originally thought it would.

What would you do? With about two thousand word left to write, would you carry on, finsh it in the way that's its headed now, or go back and put it back on track where it went awry?

I'm just not feeling good about it right now, but that might be because I having felt right myself for a week.


 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Are you still exploring the story or do you know where it might end? If the former, I suggest slugging out the 2000 words. That's probably what I do, but mostly because I need to see the original concept through to draft before I can work on it.

If you have a clear idea of where you went astray, though, maybe it's more efficient to backtrack and figure out how else you can finish the story. But you might be missing a whole element you won't discover unitl you have a completed story, however much you dislike it, to review.

Sorry, I guess this doesn't help much. Really, I think it has more to do with how you work than anything else.
 


Posted by KayTi (Member # 5137) on :
 
I would tough it out to finish the way it is now first, then I'd go back and try the other way too. 2k words for me is maybe 2 hrs work, could be a little less, so it doesn't seem impossible...but if I didn't know what to write it would seem pretty challenging.

If you must, make some notes about what you want to go back and fix. I suggest trying to slog through and finish it the way it's heading right now just because I have had this kind of issue with a story before and the need to make this decision paralyzed me and I left the story hanging for MONTHS before getting back to it and just toughing it out and getting it done. It's still a WIP, but at least it now has an ending. It's not the ending I originally envisioned, but frankly it fits better...so I haven't ended up going back and re-writing a portion, at least not yet.

Good luck!
 


Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
Thanks for the advice. I've all but finished the story, but right now, I don't like it, and I don't think it makes sense.

I'm just going to have to see what people think when they critique.
 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
I just got my confirmation that my 4th quater submission has been received. (Woo-Hoo) I'm first in line, I'm first in line.
 
Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
Doesn't it bother you that you'll have to wait months to find out how it does? I sure know it would me!
 
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Not as much as it did when I saw it still sitting on my desk, two days after the deadline for sending it.
My wife did promise that she would send it for me, she just didn't promise when.
 
Posted by darklight (Member # 5213) on :
 
Christopher, do you have a story ready for critique? If so, send it along. I'm not quite finished. I haven't looked at mine for a while because I didn't like how it was going, but intend finsihing it by the end of this weekend.
 
Posted by ChrisOwens (Member # 1955) on :
 
Hi,

I know I'm about six days late and didn't join the roll call. But I just finished a rough draft that I intend for Q4 and am looking to swap. As this is only my third attempt at steping outself myself and having a female viewpoint character--I'm interested in getting at least one female perspective.

Genre : near future science fiction
Wordcount: 5000

Oh--as I'm going to be out of town tommorow, I don't think I'll be able to respond until Friday.
 


Posted by tnwilz (Member # 4080) on :
 
I'll swap with you.

Tracy (Not a girl BTW, Sorry lol)

 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Hey Chris, I'd love to read your story. I could send you mine, but probalby not until next week or so.
 
Posted by Christopher (Member # 6336) on :
 
Hey, people. Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I went to WorldCon last week (which was really cool), then had to work some twelve hour shifts. This is the first chance I've had to catch my breath. That being said...

...I need a few more days before I send out a story. I'm seriously considering sending in my story from a couple of quarters ago, but changing the first page to make it much more obvious that it's a speculative fiction story. If I do that, I won't need a reread--you guys already gave me great feedback.

My other choice is a story I wrote that same quarter and didn't send in. I like the ideas in the story, but it still needs lots of work-it's a story you guys have never seen. Anyway, I'll let you know in the next few days.

If anyone has their story ready send it to me and I'll read it. Last quarter you, my fellow Hatrackers, wrote some cool stuff. I'm looking forward to reading the new stories. Send 'em my way.

[This message has been edited by Christopher (edited August 14, 2008).]
 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Hey folks, most of you already have joined the other (early submission) group, but if not, I suggest popping in there. Many of us are still working on second drafts, etc, and/ or are open to reading other people's stuff.
 


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