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Now, granted, I watch Fox News for all the pretty flashing lights, so I'm not getting the most balanced view on most of these issues. But I'm really getting sick of all the unsupported insinuations that the Bush Administration is basically funnelling billions of dollars into oil and energy companies, Halliburton in particular, to enrich themselves and their friends. Has there actually been a case in which lots of money has been given to Halliburton by the Bush administration? I'm sure it must be there, but I can't find it amidst all the random mudslinging. It's like a needle in a haystack.
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Oh, and the PANC outline included the plans to get the oil out of the Caspian Sea, into a pipeline that needs to go through Afghanistan and ends in India, where, surprise, Halliburton has built a 3 billion dollar power plant that it seems to have no use for without the oil. (,--hyperbole, but still. . . )
Seriously, what are you looking for? I don't think I understand your question.
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I just hear all the time about how everything the Bush administration does is calculated to funnel money into companies like Halliburton. There's a snide remark like that in every other politics thread, in every other episode of the Daily Show, and this is the first time someone has actually shown me a case where it actually might be happening, rather than just insinuating that "you KNOW that's what the Bush Administration is REALLY planning to do ..."
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quote:The value of contracts awarded to Halliburton - formerly run by US Vice-President Dick Cheney - in Iraq has skyrocketed to $US2 billion ($A3.01 billion), prompting new calls from lawmakers to investigate the propriety of the deals.
Halliburton began work in Iraq with a $US37.5 million ($A56.5 million) no-bid contract in February to put out oil fires. That deal, expanded to include pumping oil, is now worth about $US948 million ($A1.43 billion), according to Halliburton figures provided to the New York Daily News.
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Halliburton's contracts came under renewed fire this week after it was learned that Cheney, who has insisted he has no financial interest in his former company, has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Halliburton since taking office.
quote:Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick Cheney. The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement, are in the form of "deferred compensation" of up to $1m (£600,000) a year.
I don't know if this is what you are looking for. But I have to respectfully disagree with your mud slinging remark. People just stopped citing to sources because the sources are EVERYWHERE. You don't have to look outside the window everyday to see that the sky is blue.
I simply typed in Cheney and Halliburton in Google, and these were on the first page. I think "no bid" contracts and unearned payments are pretty conclusive evidence of inpropriety.
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quote:The Bush Administration has awarded several extremely large contracts and task orders to Halliburton. Of particular concern are the contracts awarded to a Halliburton subsidiary, Kellogg Brown & Root. GAO reports and other investigations have documented a history of Brown & Root overcharging the taxpayer. Yet despite this history, the Administration has awarded Brown & Root lucrative government contracts — including a recent contract for oil-related work in Iraq that is worth up to $7 billion and that was awarded secretly and without any competition
It might not be as exciting as semen on a dress, but it is still evidence.
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GWB can go and give out billions of dollars to his cronies (and, I think that definition will actually apply here), ask for another $87 billion to continue his war effort in Iraq (we're now in that phase of the war that he never really thought about), intentionally mislead the public about the link between Iraq and the atacks on the World Trade Center (note: there is none, it's official, and you can find in in 11.5 seconds on Google)
But...if he should have sex with an intern in the oval office and then lie about it! Impeach the SOB! Especially if she's chunky!
(Here's a corollary*: If Monica Lewinsky had been a "10," would Clinton have received a knowing nod from the press and the populace, and the would the whole thing have blown over?)
--Steve
*"corollary" is not the same as "coronary." Coronary is what Dick Cheney would have if he had sex with an intern.
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quote:There's a snide remark like that in every other politics thread, in every other episode of the Daily Show, and this is the first time someone has actually shown me a case where it actually might be happening, rather than just insinuating that "you KNOW that's what the Bush Administration is REALLY planning to do ..."
Quite true. But on the other hand, the same thing happened with Saddam and Iraq's WMDs. There were plenty of insinuations about Saddam's threat, but never really much to back it up.
The cause is the fact that we are suspicious of certain people in positions of power, and often tend think they are doing worse things than we may have reason to. The people who do it call it being realistic, but it's really a sort of reverse naivete regarding the government I think.
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Nothing new, Kayla. Just an off-hand reference to the Bush administration giving a multi-billion dollar contract--with no competing bids--to Dick Cheney's old company (Haliburton). Cheney was CEO of Haliburton--do you honestly believe that there will be no financial benefit to him from these actions?
It's a more obvious and far more profitable connection that Whitewater ever was. The republicans spent what--over $42 million to try and pin the Whitewater scandal on the Clintons? The amount of money involved in the supposed scandal was under $1 million. In your most Pro-Bush/Pro-Cheney/Pro-Republican mood (and, please--I do not mean to imply that anyone here is Pro-Bush/Pro-Cheney/Pro-Republican, it's just a "put yourself in those shoes" sort of thing), how much do you think Cheney is going to benefit from his old company receiving a $2 billion plus contract? $10 million? More? At least!
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