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Annie
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...until you discover that Gretchen Wilson's "Redneck Woman" is the number 11 download of 2004 on iTunes.

Nobody's safe. Nobody anywhere.

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Hell, yeah!
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Annie
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and number 26 is "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy!"

*hides*

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I passionately hate that song.

Ni!

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The most popular Juke Box hit of all time is 'Crazy' so there!

BC

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Annie
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Ah, but "Crazy" is a fabulous song. There's nothing wrong with country per se.... the problem lies in ignorant, mindless, commercial country.
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Elizabeth
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Annie, you are assuming that only hicks listen to this style of country music. To horrify you further, I will tell you that it is now pretty mainstream music which cuts across all levels of American society.
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Olivetta
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I hate the 'ride a cowboy' song, too.

We must put aside our differences, for the good of us all - Yea, even for the good of all humanity.

Let's work together to stop the spread of Country music!

*wipes tear*

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Dagonee
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Yes. Let's raise up our glasses against evil forces.
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Elizabeth
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But, but...some country music is so wonderful!
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I got yer back, Liz. [Wink]
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Elizabeth
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I just watched my favorite Monk episode, when Willie Nelson and Monk play "Blue Eyes Cryin' in the Rain" over Trudy's grave. Brought tears to my green eyes, I tell you.
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And mine, for entirely different reasons.
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Dag, I laughed aloud at your second comment. Thank you.
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Thank you! I've been tapping my keyboard going, "Is this thing on?" all day. [Smile]
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Hey! I really like Redneck Woman. As well as country music in general.

But the Save a Cowboy song . . . <insert vomit smilie>

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Here's something to frighten you further: my Mother wants the cd that song is on for her Christmas present. [Angst]

:Edit to clarify-the Redneck Woman song, not the Ride a Cowboy song:

[ December 18, 2004, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: BelladonnaOrchid ]

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Annie
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It's all cool, Dag. My horses drink beer too.
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TO clarify, I hate BOTH those songs. BUt mostly the redneck woman one. ::shudder::

Ni!

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I like the Willie and Toby duet. It's great. However, nothing tops George Strait.

*Grabs super soaker and chases away all those that want to put an end to good music*

Oh, and I also listen to Hard Rock, NuMetal, Jazz, Classical, Classic Rock, Heavy Metal, and Goth Rock. I am not a HICK. But while we are discussing poor music.....Down with "alternative" music, Hip-Hop and Rap.

What is alternative anyway? Sounds like they pulled some trash out of the park and didn't know what to do with it.

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Elizabeth
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One of my favorite lines from a Jerry Jeff Walker song:

quote:
Promoters said they needed some gonzo stuff
For the country package show
The record company said that they were caught by surprise
They said you guys are really hard to categorize

"Let 'Er Go," Jerry Jeff Walker

Everyone wants to know "what kind of music is that?" when I mention a certain group i like. I am usually stumped, because so much of the music I like could fall into different categories. One subgenre that is tossed around a lot is "alt country." I like a lot of the music that I am told is in this category, but I would never be able to PUT the music in a category, if that makes sense.

Take Neil Young. He is in the rock and roll category. Is he really rock and roll, though? Many of his songs are a lot more countryish to me.

My favorite band, Donna the Buffalo, plays music that falls into Zydeco, rock, folk, country, and heaven knows what else. They describe themselves as "roots rock."

Old Crow Medicine Show, now climbing up the charts lightning-quick, has made it due to their song, "Wagon Wheel," which is an awesome song, but more generic than their regular music, which is old time.

My point? Don't get hung up on the category. We are big on putting labels on things, and sometimes you miss out on some incredible music becaue you "don't like ____________ category."

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You tell 'em, Elizabeth!
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My roommate and I were cleaning out the fridge yesterday and she turned the radio on. To country. I made some disparaging remark or other, and she said, "...Do you not like country?" I said, "Uh...no." "Oh...well, just let me know when you want me to change it." And I responded, "........now would be good." [Wink]
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I heard The Statler Brothers' version of Jingle Bells on the radio. At first I couldn't stand it, but by the end the different pacings of the guitar and the various vocal parts started to make sense and I decided I liked it.

Dagonee

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weird!
My favorite Chem teacher was Mr. Statler.
And as for the general populous, I'm glad I don't have to listen to what everyone else is listening to. [Big Grin]

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Elizabeth
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Why would anyone have to listen to what they don't want to listen to?
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You know, elevator music, store music... Thanks to my Karma I don't have to listen to anything but what I want. (portable mp3/ogg/flac player)
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Annie
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I must clarify my definition of "hick." People who listen to country aren't necessarily hicks. People who raise cattle or ride bulls or grow soybeans aren't necessarily hicks.

People who take political advice from Toby Keith and social advice from Shania Twain are hicks. [Smile]

That said, I am a big fan of a lot of country music - the good kind. I never quite outgrew FFA-Annie in some ways.

And I have a feeling I would like a lot of Liz's music. I'm a big fan of the likes of Gillian Welch, Junior Brown (have you heard his rendition of "Foxy Lady?!?") and Patsy Cline. [Smile]

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Annie
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Also, the other day I found my old Mavericks CD. Spun it around for old time's sake and quite enjoyed myself; almost as much as when I take out the Garth Brooks box set for old time's sake.
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Vice versa, Annie. How old were you, snyway, when Steve saw U-2 in downtown San Francisco?
(feelin' me age today)

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Annie
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I was 5.

*cries*

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Annie
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...and I was 2 and living about 10 miles away when they did "Live at Red Rocks."

The world just ain't fair.

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I like some country, but not nearly enough to actually make this statement true. Cake has always had some 'country' elements to it, as do many other bands and groups. As for people who live and work farms, I like them, in fact I have always wanted to work on a farm ever since I was little and went to my grandpa's farm. That said, you'll actually never see me listening to country, because I like other music far more.

[ December 19, 2004, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: raventh1 ]

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Annie
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A good friend of mine in high school was a steer wrestler. He was - for all intents and purposes - a cowboy. His favorite band? La Bouche.

My other dear friend Becky, who grew up raising Red Angus in Wilsall, Montana and whose family now manages Ted Turner's ranch, absolutely loves Pearl Jam and just about everything that came out of Seattle in the early 90s.

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5? You were 5?
I am so old.

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Annie
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Maybe I wasn't 5. I was 5 when Joshua Tree came out. When was the tour? 87? 88?
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I was born in 1985, which was the last time Philip Glass preformed in my home state... well except the three times he's appeared here in the one and half years I've been at college. [Grumble]

Hobbes [Smile]

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I love country music, but not the adult-contemporary crossover stuff that tends to be popular. Some of my favorite country artists are: Alison Krauss, Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris, Gillian Welch, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, June Carter, and Waylon Jennings. It is the music that I grew up hearing, that my mother sang to me, and that I will sing to my children. No music moves me more or is more part of my soul.

I can understand that people don't like country. That's cool. I don't like jazz. I can appreciate it (I was engaged to a jazz musician for 2 painful years), but I just don't like how it sounds. That doesn't mean that I have any desire to disparage people who like jazz.

So why does everyone think it's okay to pick on people who like country? Would it be okay to say that everyone who likes rap is a gangster? Of course not. I am not a hick - I'm an educated, tolerant lady born and bred in the South and I love country music.

BTW, Redneck Woman is a dig at the singers who pander to the adult-contemporary crossover crowd. The point of the song is to celebrate your country roots.

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Ugh, I'll listen to most any kind of music and enjoy it... even musicals soundtracks now thanks to Raia... but I still cannot stand most country for the life of me. I dunno what it is about it, but it makes me feel rather sick.
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Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash have two of the most distinctive male voices around, and two of the best for conveying emotion without being overwrought (read: screaming).

Nelson's rendition of "Bird on a Wire" is just ... I don't know, let's just say it's the only Cohen remake that I sometimes think surpasses the original.

And Cash is Cash. Enough said.

Dagonee

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Genres aren't good or bad, really, only individual songs or pieces. Country is not a genre I buy or keep up with, but when I'm exposed to it by friends, I always hear some stuff that I do like. I worked at a record store one Christmas a long time ago, and some Willie Nelson Christmas album was in the rotation at the store that year and I came to enjoy it very much. I had some friends with a country band in college and they taught me some country songs that were great fun to sing and play. These guys listened to a wide range of music (as most musicians do) but found that they had fun and got gigs in the vicinity of our rather rural area (Auburn, AL) with this country repertoire. I loved to listen to them play. Most anything played live with real enjoyment is fun to watch.

I love that roots music, too. Grisha recently gave me the soundtrack for "Oh Brother Where Art Thou?" and it's just awesome. There's something great about that sort of spirit. I think because it's a participatory type of musical culture, rather than a performance culture. It makes you want to pick up a guitar and sing it with your own voice. That is so much greater an experience than just listening, you know? Even if the music is less sophistocated, the higher level of involvement more than makes up for that. I feel the same way about old timey blues.

I sort of like Bluegrass for the same reason. I would never buy any or turn the radio to that station, but hey it's super fun to play or watch others play.

But my favorite bands are always classified as alternative or rock or something like that. Tool, Radiohead, A Perfect Circle, Modest Mouse, Nine Inch Nails, The Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, and so on, backwards through time to the big bang.

[ December 20, 2004, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: Tatiana ]

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