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Annie
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Need I say more?

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[ October 07, 2003, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: Annie ]

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Erik Slaine
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We Can Remember It for You Wholesale was very misrepresented. I think that just about does it.
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rivka
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[Wall Bash] [Wall Bash] [Wall Bash] [Wall Bash]

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Come on and watch 'em run . . .
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74% of the people voted to recall [EDIT: based on exit polls I think]. What exactly do you call an Anti-mandate?

And Annie, what's up with photoshop?

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[ October 07, 2003, 11:30 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]

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Annie
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Whoa - were all those people listed on the ballot?!?

And Hobbes - I emailed you... did you get it?

[ October 07, 2003, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Annie ]

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It takes very few signatures and very few dollars to run for govenor in California, a lot of people wanted their names up there.

And no I didn't. [Frown] Can you send it again? [Embarrassed]

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docmagik
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Every one of them. Biggest ballot I've ever held, and it was only four questions long.

It was pretty fun. I had a good time, and I didn't even vote for an actor or journalist or porn star. Or slime ball.

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Annie
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hobbes7714@hotmail ?
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Being a resident of MN, I SO knew this would happen......
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Speed
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ALRIGHT!! LARRY FLYNT BEAT GALLAGHER!!!

[Party]

Whew, that was close.

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I can't believe this. ::runs around:: The world is ending! AAAhhhhhh!!!
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quote:
. . . I didn't even vote for an actor or journalist or porn star. Or slime ball.
Skipped that question, huh?
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"I said I would veto you last. I lied."

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"You had Cruz Bustamante on the left talking about $8 billion in new taxes and more rights for illegal immigrants and Tom McClintock on the right and they gave the entire middle to Arnold Schwarzenegger," Hoffenblum said.
from Annie's reuters link.
Very true. Arnold very cannily positioned himself as a moderate, centrist Republican, pro-gun control and pro-choice. This made him far more electable than his Republican opponents, and the voters recognized this. Arnold essentially became the default candidate, an enviable position with over 100 on the ballot. The bandwagon effect was unstoppable, over-coming even last minute Nazi and groping scandals.
The Dems totally shot themself in the foot by trying to have it both ways, supporting Davis yet fielding candidates. This mixed message was confusing and fractured the democrats and the left in general, always dangerous and a losing strategy, absolutely idiotic with such a huge field of candidates. They should have either rallied behind Davis (still would have lost, probably) or abandoned him (a Dem might have had a chance then.)

California has often been a political bellweather for the country, most notably recently with the explosion of ballot referendi that has swept over the country. I wonder if this fortells more sucessful recall campaigns? My guess would be yes. Unpopular and polarizing incumbants better buckle up, the ride looks to get bumpy.! [Evil Laugh]
Just my 2 cents.

[ October 08, 2003, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: Morbo ]

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I just got home from working on a precinct board all day. Strange, interesting day. I'm really tired - I've been up since 4:30 am and worked from 6 am (setting up) until 9:15 pm - but I'll have some more to say about this tomorrow or so.
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Yah Annie. Don't know why it didn't work. [Dont Know]

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Annie
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Ok -mine is by far the best Arnold thread title. And the first.
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msquared
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The porn star beat Gallagher 2-1.

Let's hear it for the porn star.

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Me, I've gained a whole new level of respect for Gary Coleman. He should try being mayor of something, some time.
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katharina
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Man, it would suck to be Richard Todd Lewis.
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Me, I've gained a whole new level of respect for Gary Coleman. He should try being mayor of something, some time.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, Tom, but at the risk of being ridiculed, I'd have to say that I was quite surprised by the interviews that Coleman gave. He came off as quite an intelligent, level-headed person. Not sure whether I'd vote for him to be mayor, but there are plenty of elected positions at the local level that might be appropriate for him.
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Actually saxon, in the only interview of his I heard, he did not know the names of any cabinet members, or of the Vice President of the United States.
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I guess we must have heard different interviews. Admittedly, the ones I heard were pretty nonspecific.

Come to think of it, I can only think of three of the cabinet members. I mean, really, how many people know the name of the Secretary of Veteran's Affairs?

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Annie
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A little-known fact: I am the Secretary of Veterans' Affairs
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No! I'm the Secretary of Veterans' Affairs!
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Annie
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Oh yeah? Don't make me whip out my logo on you!
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Icarus
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I only know three of them as well, but he didn't know any. And I know who the vice president is. His response was that it wasn't relevent, because he was not running for national office. Well, OK, this may arguaby be true. But I have to wonder at the political know-how of a man who doesn't know who the dominant players on the national landscape are. In the radio interview I heard, he exuded this kind of slacker mentality that made me think the whole thing was a ploy to get back in the media, and possibly parlay that into some sort of Donny Bonaducci (sp?) type has-been gig on Comedy Central or something . . . maye a political commentator for Indecision 2004.
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Well there are many reasons I didn't vote for Coleman for governor. But I think that not knowing the names of the Vice-President or any of the cabinet members wouldn't necessarily make him a bad candidate for, say, a city council position. Of a smaller city. Maybe.

And it could very well have been a ploy to regain media popularity. Although Danny Bonaduce (that's the correct spelling) doesn't exactly lead a high profile life in regard to the media these days, not since The Other Half was cancelled, anyway. But he's had his LA radio gig for quite some time now (wherein, by the way, he is pretty darn funny, unlike his partner, Jamie White).

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This is why I prefer to get my news via the Capitol Steps

[Note: The California Recall one's under the week of September 8]

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im so glad arnold won.
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