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Annie
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General Mills to make all of its cereals whole grain

This is great. It is so hard to find breakfast cereals that are high in fiber. Granted, they'll still be chock-full of sugar, but I suppose this is a start.

Fiber is really the answer to a large number of America's health problems. I hate the fact that "carbs" are the new dietary enemy, when we desperately need more complex carbohydrates and less sugars and starched.

Hooray for fiber!

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(edit: one must remember the difference between sugar and Suger)

[ September 30, 2004, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: Annie ]

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beverly
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Yeehaw! It's about freakin' time. [Smile]

I applaud the recent experiement with "reduced sugar" sugared cereals also. Maybe they will make them the norm after awhile.

Since our whole family eats way too much cold cereal, this is a big deal to me.

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Yeah, I was relieved when I saw this on the news yesterday after seeing it advertised as "new, healthier cereals". With all the low-carb diets out there, I was half-thinking that they were going to start putting chunks of beef in Lucky Charms instead of marshmallows.

[ September 30, 2004, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]

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beverly
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Oooo, Porter would *like* that....
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pooka
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quote:
General Mills is the nation's No. 2 cereal maker,
Did you know that colon cancer is the #2 cancer in Utah? [Blushing]

And if smoking were eradicated, colon cancer would be the biggest cancer killer. So I've heard.

Wow, bev, maybe you should learn how to make granola and grape nuts. Though I kind of think the grapenuts I make have more sugar than the commercial kind. That malty flavor is really what makes them.

[ September 30, 2004, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]

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BannaOj
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[ROFL] Sorry Annie, the thread title made me wonder if you had problems of a different nature, that had recently unclogged themselves...
[Razz]

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Does fiber help prevent colon cancer?
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I hate the fact that "carbs" are the new dietary enemy, when we desperately need more complex carbohydrates and less sugars and starched.
Not to be a nitpicker, but most "low-carb" diets don't count dietary fiber as a "carb." And most "low-carb" foods make that claim based on "net carbs" which is the grams of total carbohydrates minus the grams of dietary fiber.
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pooka
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High fiber foods do. Just eating straight fiber could be more stressful for colon cancer. Soluble fiber, which is in oats and apples and similar things, is especially good
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sarcasticmuppet
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Which low-carb diets approve of, btw. Whole-grain breads in moderation, green veggies, fruits, etc etc etc.
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mr_porteiro_head
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Let's make things simpler. If I don't have enough fiber, am I more likely to get colon cancer?

*goes out to eat fibre*

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Annie
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That's true, Saxon and Muppet - however, a lot of the general public don't read up on the diets themselves and think "carbs are bad! If I don't want to get fat, I better not eat carbs." I've heard a lot of people with the attitude be genuinely surprised to learn that complex carbohydrates are actually good for you.

And Porter, yes, you are less likely to get colon cancer when you eat a high-fiber diet.

And AJ, isn't it fun when topic titles are the slightest bit humorously ambiguous? [Smile]

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ketchupqueen
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*drinks her daily glass of Citracel*

Cheers!

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Stray
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And here I'd hoped this thread would be about spinning or knitting or somesuch [Frown]

Meh. Just betrays my personal obsessions, that. [Big Grin]

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dread pirate romany
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Yes porter. Eat your fiber!!!
We go through the equivalent of four boxes of cold cereal a week, so I have never let my kids even taste low fiber sugar cereals. The Kashi Go-Lean Crunch is actually quite sweet, without have lots of sucrose.

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I am [Mad] [Mad] [Mad] that I cannot find the Honey Raisin Bran muffin mix I like ANYWHERE. It was by one the raisin company whose name escapes me right now--you know, the one in the red box? Anyway, they were DELICIOUS!! So moist and yummy, and yay, fiber! Was wonderful for breakfast. I can't eat breakfast at home in the morning before work -- too early -- so I can't do cereal, and thus have to do breakfast on the go. I miss my muffins. [Frown]

I like Fiber Choice tablets. They are smooth, and can be chewed without needing water! Except you have to keep them tightly covered. I tried keeping some in my desk in a baggie, and they got stale. *makes mental note to pick up more tablets tomorrow*

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Annie
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beverly
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I make home-made whole wheat bread, it is always available, but he hardly ever eats it. [Frown]

Trying to get Porter to eat healthy ain't easy. And if I tell him it's good for him he doesn't believe me. Then Hatrack tells him and that is a whole 'nother matter! [Wink]

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dread pirate romany
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Hey, you know Jack Lalane just turned 9o and he says if you take care of yourself you'll have great sex at 90 without drugs.
If that doesn't get a guy eating his fiber and exercising, what will?

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quote:
And here I'd hoped this thread would be about spinning or knitting or somesuch

Meh. Just betrays my personal obsessions, that.

Gee, and I was hoping for Needle Necessities and Weeks Dye Works and Gentle Arts Sampler Threads and... LOL

I think I have too many obsessions...

Goody

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sndrake
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A few years ago, when I had a lot more free time, I went on a very successful diet - my own creation, no surprises, just a synthesis of information already out there.

It was based on the idea that there are two things in one's diet that really help to keep you feeling full - one is fat and the other is fiber.

So I worked hard at upping the fiber content of our meals - the highest fiber whole grain breads, every meal a combination of vegetables, whole grains and fish or chicken. It was not an especially low fat diet - probably just moderately lower.

By the time I was done, I was averaging about 30-35 grams of fiber per day. The diet, along with about 45-60 minutes exercise per day, resulted in weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week.

Sadly, I can't seem to find the time any more. I've gained a lot of the weight back, but am finally back to upping the fiber and nutrition in our meals. I'm losing again - slowly. Still can't find the time to exercise.

(confession of a serial obsessor)

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Porter: along with fiber, walking and drinking adequate water encourage healthy colon function which may prevent cancer and supress excess appetite. In this respect, walking is actually superior to more strenuous exercise.
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dkw
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Sndrake, shouldn’t that be “cereal”?

Your method is very similar to the only diet that’s ever worked for me. I don’t worry about anything except drinking more water and eating more whole grains. I did it for six months and lost 20 pounds, which is not dramatic weight loss, but considering that my weight had been creeping steadily upward for the previous ten years, I was pretty happy.

The best part, though, was that when I stopped the “diet” I stopped losing weight but didn’t gain it back. It’s been a little over a year, and I’ve started it up again, and lost two pounds last week.

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Does fibre help prevent colon cancer?
The answer to this is an unequivocal "It depends on who you ask." Certainly bran is falling out of favour and people are suggesting that high fibre may, in fact, increase your chance of getting colon cancer.

At the end of the day, it's probably best to have moderation. But if you want to soften your stool it's probably better to ramp up your water intake before you eat more fibre.

I'm just sayin'.

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If you (or your family members) have a hard time eating more whole grains, you can also get fiber through fruits and vegetables. The greener the vegetables, the better they are for you. Eating the peels on apples and potatoes and the like is good too. You should try for some whole grains, though, since there are a lot of vitamins and minerals in the germ of the grain as well as fiber in the bran.
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At the end of the day, it's probably best to have moderation. But if you want to soften your stool it's probably better to ramp up your water intake before you eat more fibre.

Yeah - forgot to add that. With the level of fiber I was ingesting, adequate water was a must. If not, it's actually possible to (but rare) to get your colon stopped up to the point where surgery is necessary to prevent an explosion.

I didn't rely totally on grains - made chicken and tuna salad with minced onions and celery, along with shredded carrot. Heavy on the veggies for dinner - stir fry dishes and the like. Plus lots of fruit snacks.

And dkw: [Big Grin]

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When I mentioned high fiber foods earlier, I should have stated whole foods that contain a lot of fiber. I don't use brans and supplements. Sometimes we splurge on Cracklin' Oat Bran, but it's so expensive and sugary. Sometimes = less than once a year

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baby spinach + feta cheese crumbles + sunflower seeds + wee bit of vinigarrette = good stuff that should fit in with any diet on the planet.
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