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I will definitely be seeing it this weekend, even if I have to go by myself. It looks totally revolutionary.
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Oh, sweet Lord, yes. Very graphic. VERY graphic. Apparently scenes I wouldn'tve DREAMED would be left in the movie are (I take away his weapons. Both of them.).
Also, apparently they changed the ending to The Big Fat Kill to make it SUPER cool.
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I'm going to see it in a couple of hours. I haven't read anything by Frank Miller, so I don't really have any expectations going in.
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I think the best panel-to-screen adaptation is Hartigan in his jail cell and Hartigan leaving prison. Oh, wait, and in the car chase and shoot out scene. Oh, wait, and the part with the cop cars zooming around Sin City. Oh, wait.. You know what? Forget it.
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It was brilliant. Probably the most brutally violent movie I've ever seen, and I loved it. It was also very funny, consistently.
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Well then I would say you have a somewhat narrow-minded view of brilliance. But I wouldn't really expect you to enjoy a movie like this, Irami. You can't get satisfaction from reading about the normalcy of the average Joe, so I certainly wouldn't think you'd enjoy a movie about the filthier aspects of life, whether entirely fictional or not. I don't hold it against you, though.
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Just saw it. It kind of reminded me of Pulp Fiction, but everything that I thought was wrong with Pulp Fiction was good here. And the cinematography... WOW.
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Urgh... I was going to go see it tonight but plans sort of fell apart. I was so hyped up about this movie, I hope it lives up to the expectations.
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Just got back from seeing this movie, so let me say this.
It was a perfect cinematographic translation of a comic book. Technically and artisticly flawless. That may actually be its fault, perhaps somethings are better left untouched.
The fact that its a comic book is not lost on me folks, all I am saying is that perhaps it should have stayed in that medium. Befor you flame me let me say I am no curmudgeon when it comes to violent films. I was quite taken by the Kill Bill's, I found them to be very entertaining. In movies, that is about the closest thing I can think of to compare Sin City to.
The acts of violence depicted were too much even for me. They must have gotten their 'R' rating by the skin of their teeth, perhaps it was one disembowlment short of the feared NC17. Many people will reply saying "You just don't get it", believe me I get it, and just don't want it.
Acting was so-so except for a couple notables. Nick Stahl's performance as the Yellow Bastard. He has come along way from A Man Without a Face, and he's very good in Carnivà le. Mickey Rourke seemed born to play the roll of Marv, I don't think a better casting choice could have been made there.
Oh... it was kinda funny seeing the Gilmore Girl all tramped up nice and proper like.
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I thought the only girl worth anything was Rosario Dawson...Brittney Murphy and even Jessica Alba fell a bit short of the mark. The dialogue is campy, it's cheesy, it's from a COMIC BOOK and both of them (especially Murphy!) seemed embarassed to be speaking at times. But Dawson just got into all the nitty gritty glorious camp and just let 'er rip. The other two were sort of apologetic for the "bad writing" ...they just didn't get it!
Nick Stahl's voice...man! I couldn't imagine Leo Dicaprio having done justice to that role.
Any other Buffy fans get flashbacks watching the Yellow Bastard? *giggle*
I told Strider as we walked out of the theatre that the voice-over narration really grows on you after awhile...for the first two "shorts" I was rolling my eyes a couple of times with the cheesiness, but then I sort of got it...and got used to it. That said, the first snippet seemed out of place to me...more "refined" perhaps, than the rest of the movie? I understand that it was shot as a teaser for Frank Miller to pick a director, but I think they should have tweaked it a bit before combining it with these other stories.
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All-in-all, I had fun. I don't agree about the rating being "almost NC-17 worthy" because the violence in this movie rarely "disturbed" me....Kevin's death a tad, just because of the gore and all-around creepiness...but movies like Reservoir Dogs (you *know* what I'm talking about, if you've seen it) are much more likely to offend...because they get under your skin, they stick with you, you have nightmares about them. I don't think I'll be trying to wipe Sin City from my memory, although I do try that with the Stuck in the Middle With You scene from Dogs.
IMDB.com says Tarantino filmed a segment...I'm wondering if anyone knows which one? And does segment mean...a whole segment? or like a scene? Because nothing really stuck out for me as being Tarantino-esque besides, of course, the few torture scenes. But then again, dialogue is what makes something Tarantino-esque. And stuff being out of order.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you Leonide, about Jessica Alba. But I may be blinded by the fact that I've had a crush on her since Dark Angel.
That was so much fun! I never read the source material, but I left feeling very good.
Some of the dialogue (epecially the hokum some of the femmes kept spouting at the guys) made the whole theater laugh out loud. I wasn't sure if it was on purpose or not, but it was very amusing.
Roark was an eye-opener.
This movie also marks the first time I have ever looked upon Clive Owen with anything akin to lust. "You've already made a very big mistake -- you didn't flush." Meheh
Elijah Wood in that effed up Charlie Brown shirt... he really does 'twisted' pretty well. I expected Marv ro put out his smoke on his severed head before beginning to torture the ... what was he, a cardinal?
The bit with all those women in fishnet and thongs shooting machine guns... it was just so absurd everyone was laughing, but I took it as intentional. It somehow managed not to be insulting, in any case.
And thank God no one brought their children.
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That is exactly the connection our buddy Nash made! LOL
And, as far as I know, Becky only spoke to her mother on the phone. I don't think she appeared on screen. (Becky wa sthe hooker with the big blue eyes?)
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I really, really had fun watching that movie. I loved the books, but, honestly, I feared for this movie, because, well, I thought a lot of people would feel like what many of you have already expressed. "Stupid cartoonish retarded nonsense" was how one person put his predictions on the movie, and I was shaken.
But, damn, you really get ENVELOPED in the world of Sin City as you watch it. For instance, I smirked a little when I saw the first few Old Town girls with guns, but when time came for the Big Fat Kill, I wasn't laughing at all. I thought it was great.
The characters are exaggerated. They're more like dreams than real people, just like the world they inhabit. But you really start to feel for them, especially Haritgan and poor Marv.
I don't think the movie evoked enough pity for Marv. I missed the scene where he goes home to get his gun Gladys and his sits on the bed he slept in as a child and silently weeps. And I missed the scene where his mom, blind and frail, stops him in the night and asks what's wrong, and he says,
"Well, Mom... I've met a girl.
She's really nice.
Her name's Goldie."
That scene in the comics always breaks my heart. Poor Marv. He's like Lenny from Of Mice And Men, only he's been kicked around a lot more. Like a big dog who's become vicious because of cruel treatment, but when you show him the slightest bit of love he's loyal as hell and willing to die for you at a word.
That Yellow Bastard was done superbly well. There's one scene where Hartigan leans his head against the bars in his cell and just lets loose a scream... It chills to the bone.
I loved this movie. It's a fun ride and I want to see it again. It starts out sorta bumpy (Michael Madsen is terrible - it's like he's reading off of cue card), but when you see Marv hulk onscreen and start talking, then you forget all your previous troubles with the film and you smile as you watch the big dumb brute tear through the dregs of humanity.
And, oh sweet Lord, Kevin is a nightmare made flesh.
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Tarantino directed the scene in which Owen was driving Del Toro to the Pits. Incidentally, I think this scene had the best acting performance of the movie, by Del Toro. I barely even recognized the guy in his role as Rafferty.
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Okay, then. You really think I was supposed to accept the killer hookers totally without irony? That the corny, man-worship dialogue WASN'T designed for laughter?
Then maybe the movie wasn't as successful as I thought.
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quote: What are you thinking about Becky's mom, Glenn?
I won't say, precisely. Let's just say that the chronology in the movie is messed up. That's where the clues come from. Unless I'm reading way too much into it.
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I'm in the "I'm glad I saw it, but I'm not going to see it again" camp.
I'm probably the only one who noticed this, but all the guns were from Springfield Armory. I think they're all from the new, amazing 2005 line. Mickey Rourke had the 1911-A1, which is a sweet, sweet gun. Does Frank Miller draw Springfield pistols, or did Robert Rodriguez make some deal with Springfield, I wonder. It was a refreshing change from seeing everyone always carrying Glocks in movies (esp. since Springfield pistols are better than Glocks). I carry a Springfield XD 5-inch 9mm.
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Why not? I have to admit, I feel annoyed when people allude to something, and then become coy when directly asked about it.
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Because I'm guessing as much as the next guy. I want to see if anyone else comes up with the same theory. I don't want to plant the wrong seeds.
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