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Taalcon
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AICN has posted a trailer for Mel Gibson's THE PASSION ... and it gives me chills.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15633

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Fitz
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Woah. That's intense. I can't wait to see it.
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Holy.

GRrrrrrrr.....

the visual imagery is so good it makes me want to start a war, or should I say, finish one.

[Mad] [Mad] [Mad] [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]

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I can't get it to work... *miffed*
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Post from the Ain't it Cool News forum (right under the article about this) by Moriarty:

quote:
Only way Mel can compete with PJ's Rings is to make this into a trilogy!
Comment: And I'm serious, this is a serious post by an upset Christian. Us Christians really need to lighten up about the marketing of Jesus and the Bible. All we have is that God awful "Christian Rock" that tries to make a style of music that died out 12 years ago somehow sound hip, singing about no sex, no drugs, and rock that doesn't rock. Our God is totally not being done justice with that crap. After years of tele-films Jesus is finally making his triumphant return to the big screen and yet, no Toy Biz action figures, no fresh electronica score album with some hip hop hitmakers thrown in, no PS2 video game, no BK Kids Meal featuring a special Fish flavored shake, nothing! I mean, Clash of the Titans had a bad ass action figure line and that religion died out like, thousands of years ago! And what do we get?! But, of course, Hollywood is probably as much to blame for this as Christians themselves, I'm sure they wish to Hell Mel never made this thing. But, hey, if this thing catches on somehow, Mel can always go back and do sequels. In the first sequel, Lord of the Passion: The Two Mormons, the tale of Jesus' Native American adventure in the New World can be told, and they can have the funky Native American God who can be CG by WETA and give a haunting performance about how he doesn't want his people to get addicted to worshipping a pagan God, recounting his own battle with paganism and how he became addicted to worshipping pagaen symbols. And in the final gripping chapter, Lord of the Passion: The Return of the King, Jesus will return one final time to finally destroy all of the sinners and cast them into the fiery depths of Hell from whence they were forged by the evil Satan and his Four Horsemen; evil, black cloaked riders, who were once kings who became sinners by indulging in their hippie lifestyle. And at last, Jesus will finally claim his rightful blood legacy, as the only surviving member of the house of David, as the King of Men.


I was laughing my butt off, and also thinking "hmmmm..."

*grin*

This movie looks phenomenal.

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I loved Pilate saying "Ecce Homo!" that has always been one of my favorite lines from the gospels because there seems to be something powerful there and hearing it in latin seemed to reinforce that so much more than the common translation, "Behold the man!"
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Taalcon
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There's more footage released -

http://www.harvest.org/special/index.php/1/2/6.html

Some of the same stuff in the trailer, but a lot of it is extended, and there's some new stuff as well. Once again, viewing was accompanied by chills. Check it out.

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curse my low bandwidth! [Mad]

What's the release date?

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Belle here's a low res link http://www.cinemovies.fr/cinetv/player_q2.php?IDBA=2382

AJ

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The shot of him stomping a serpent's head at the end was a cool idea ...
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Was anyone else amused by the Icon International was the studio for this film? I mean, could there be a better logo to start this movie off with?

http://www.iconmovies.net/

Bottom left corner.

[ August 05, 2003, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: Kayla ]

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Belle
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Finally saw it. And saw it. And watched it again. Mesmerizing.

I heard they agreed to put subtitles on it, if true I'm bummed. I want to experience it without subtitles, especially the first time I see it. [Frown]

But I don't want to wait until it comes on DVD (assuming it EVER gets released and then goes to DVD) either. I wish they'd show it sans subtitles.

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Taalcon
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I never heard a final decision on the subtitles - I do know that wen they showed the film to Focus on the Family, they had subtitles.

But man, the delivery on the line that this thread is named after was so amazingly powerfuly delivered, that I'm positive subtitles aren't necessary. Will be a nice addition for the DVD, but for the theatrical release, I say leave 'em off.

Oh, and is it just me, or does Mary actually cry out "Yeshua" when it shows the flashback to her running after her fallen child? That's...great.

-Dave

[ August 05, 2003, 09:07 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]

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Belle
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WHY can't the get a studio to pick it up? Is it just because of the graphic portrayal of violence? So give it an R rating. It's way too intense for kids anyway.

Are there religious groups protesting it? Everyone I know from church and community are looking forward to seeing it.

Who exactly is holding the process up?

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Taalcon
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BanannaOJ: that link you gave is to the older teaser trailer. The new link is for more footage, not as much a trailer.

And a question: if it WERE rated "R" - would you "No R-Rated Movies" Latter Day Saints make an exception?

[ August 05, 2003, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]

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jexx
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The scoring is fabulous.

I've always had trouble with the crucifixion (blame it on an overactive imagination and a very graphic retelling of the story in Baptist preschool), and even now I have to close my eyes when I think of the nails. But now, as an adult, I see it as a powerful thing, the sacrifice; so I'm dealing with it. Heh.

I can't wait.

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I am very excited to see it. I agree that the scoring seems to be very well done (at least from what we've heard in the trailers). I am hopeful that the whole thing will be well done - that it will do justice to the story and the Man.
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If they put sub-titles on, I will be very dissapointed. [Grumble] [Cry] I think part of the power will come from hearing and understanding completely in the original languages. It's just so powerful a story on it's own, and anyone really curious can go look it up in a Bible. Leave the subtitles off, Mel. it will only detract from the story.

Though I agree with Taal, maybe adding them as an option on the DVD would be good.

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Hey jexx, did you break your AIM or what!?

[Mad]

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Taalcon
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That music is not from the actual film. The music you're hearing is from Peter Gabriel (but not from his Last Temptation of Christ score, the album of which happened to be called "Passion"). The final score for the film will be composed by James Horner - who, if you'll remember, wrote the score to Mel's other big Historical Epic - Braveheart.

I, for one, can't wait to hear it.

-Taal

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There has been a backlash against it in the media.

The story I heard was "anti-semitic at a very bad time."

Anti-semitic? As in, portrays some jews in a bad light? You know, the story is going to do that. So people should not be allowed to tell the story?

If anti-semitic in the sense of "encourages violence/prejudice against jews", I have no support for that accusation.

Second, bad time? Like there'd ever be a better time?

This is a deeply religious film made by a major Hollywood player, and they don't know how to handle it. [Roll Eyes] I'm not surprised. Dogma is praised for its daring, but when someone does something that is ACTUALLY daring, the industry is running for the hills.

[ August 06, 2003, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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I heard that while directing The Passion, Mel Gibson spoke to the actors only in Aramaic.
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I'm LDS. I'd see it. I just sent the links to a couple of friends...

Man, that looks good.

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"Anti-Semitic"? I dunno. I hear the Jewish main character is portrayed very symapthetically. [Razz]
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Can we not make movies with nazis in them anymore, because it might offend the Germans?

I mean, that's how it happened. According to the Bible, and the Bible is the source the film is based on. Too many people believe it to be historical truth as well to get away with changing the story.

Remember that Noah's ark monstrosity on NBC? With Lot and Noah as contemporaries and Lot surviving the flood and becoming a pirate?

A lot of people know these stories. Even those that don't believe in the divinity of Jesus know how the crucifixion happened. Gibson is being honest to his source, and that's being anti-semitic? *shakes head*

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