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Kayla
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quote:
Former Dallas Cowboys cornerback Dwayne Goodrich was sentenced on Tuesday to 7 1/2 years in prison for striking and killing two men with his luxury car while speeding home from a night at strip clubs.


The two men struck by Goodrich were Good Samaritans who had stopped to help a motorist in a separate accident flee from a car that was on fire, police said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1357&e=4&u=/nm/20030820/sp_nm/nfl_cowboys_dc&sid=7666489

This is one thing I hate about the law. Getting the two fer one deal when killing someone. His sentences (7 1/2 years for each man killed) run concurrently. Let's think about that. Kill one and do 7 1/2 years. Kill two and do 7 1/2 years. Yeah, seems to me like the second one's a freebie.

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In 1991, in New York City, a Hasidic man accidentally drove a motorcade carrying Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson into two African-American children. One of the children - seven year old Gavin Cato - died at the scene.

In the hours following the accident, a rumor spread within the black community of Crown Heights that Jewish ambulance workers had ignored the injured children and offered help only to the Jewish driver. In response, a group of African Americans began to riot.

In the course of rioting, the violent crowd yelled "Get the Jew" and chased down Yankel Rosenbaum, an Australian Jewish man in his twenties who happened to be walking in the neighborhood. One of the pursuers, Lemrick Nelson, stabbed Rosenbaum with a knife. Rosenbaum was subsequently taken to a hospital, where he died of internal bleeding.

In the next decade, Nelson stood trial for his actions in a series of state and federal criminal proceedings, each of which was controversial in its own way.

At the most recent of these trials, which ended last month in a Brooklyn federal court, a jury found Lemrick Nelson guilty of violating Yankel Rosenbaum's civil rights by stabbing him.

Answering a separate question, however, the jury found that Nelson's actions did not cause his victim's death. That finding was a major triumph for the defense. Because Nelson had already spent time in jail awaiting trial, and because the maximum sentence for violation of civil rights (in the absence of homicide) is ten years, Nelson may ultimately walk out of prison in less than a year.

Given the facts in this case, the jury's verdict is logically incoherent. As such, it may reveal a general weakness in our system: the jury's difficulty performing logical analysis.


http://writ.news.findlaw.com/colb/20030604.html

What is wrong with the jury? How do you violate someone's civil rights by stabbing someone, who dies, and not be the cause of the death?!? Freaking idiots.

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Maybe the jury thought that the man died not so much from the stabbing, but because the ambulance might have been slow because of the riot, or the emergency room personnel might have been overburdened or incompetent. Just a guess.
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Kayla
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Oh, yeah, sorry SW. The jury, while not allowed to hear about the medical malpractice suit, seems to have known about it. However, even if the hospital was guilty of malpractice, it doesn't lessen the responsiblity of the guy who stabbed him. It's still a murder charge.

The link explains it pretty well, so I won't even try. I'd probably screw it up anyway.

[ August 20, 2003, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: Kayla ]

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I was just guessing about what they could have been thinking. I was actually too lazy to read the article. [Sleep]
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Didn't Law and Order have an episode similar to what happened in the latter situation ,maybe even loosely based on it?
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Kayla
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Very loosely, I think. "A black minister fans the flames of racial intolerance after a hit-and-run in Harlem claims the life of a 12-year-old and the Jewish driver isn't indicted."
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What was that newfoundlogic? I didn't catch you the first three times. [Wink] [Razz]

If you look at a lot of the trials taking place in the 50's and 60's, a lot of crime committed by white folks against black folks was charged as "violation of civil rights" because murder wouldn't get a guilty verdict from the white juries. I don't know why they're ressurecting this now. [Confused]

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Thank you WheatPuppet, that was an accident. The violation civil rights charge is just really used when the defendant was either acquitted of murder and therefore can't be tried again or murder itself is unprovable.
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Concurrent sentences really TICK ME OFF [Mad] [Mad] (Sorry about yelling). I know a man who sexually abused his 4 daughters for over 20 years who got 4 <20> year sentences but he gets to serve them concurrently so, when he gets paroled next year he'll have served 13 years of his 80 yr sentence. Meanwhile his family serves their sentence for the rest of their lives. How sucky is that twisted justice?
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Kayla
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I also like the fact that the football player is free on bail till at least January. Theoretically, he can go out and try to get signed by a team. [Roll Eyes]
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Hey ADAM!!

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"A black minister fans the flames of racial intolerance after a hit-and-run in Harlem claims the life of a 12-year-old and the Jewish driver isn't indicted."
That was the actual description of the episode. [Wink]
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Yeah but I think the plot was more on the fact that in the riot a Black man killed an Italian while everyone was screaming, "Kill the Jews!". Then it was whether or not the rioter was responsible for his actions.
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