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Speed
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Hi. I thought I'd start another thread, since on the other one I was forced to scroll horizontally to read the posts. In any case, I was most impressed with the google-proficiency of the people on this forum, so I thought I'd put in another challenge. Here is a fairly common phrase in a foreign language (but not a proverb like the last one):

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Duket sikur pula ka ngrėn bukėn nga dora.
I'd like to see who can first tell me: (1) What is the language. (2) What does it mean?

Whoever can do it first will have my eternal worship as google-master of the year. [Big Grin]

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Youth ap Orem
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It's a rare form of ancient Heghorian. It says, "Where can I find some butter, in this godforsaken heap of butterless land."
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Wrong, but an excellent guess. [Wink]
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Google led me astray!
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Julie
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Are you sure this is a real language?
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Albanian.
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Kayla
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Something about lunch? I agree, it seems to be some form of Albanian.
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Part 1 has been answered correctly.

[Hail] dkw [Hail] Kayla

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dkw is beating the google champ... but just barely
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wow... panic attack. I switched google to Albanian and couldn't find the button to switch it back to English. [Blushing] While I was looking I put it into pig latin so that I would at least be able to understand it! [Smile]
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[ROFL] That's hilarious. In case you get stuck in future, English in Albanian is "Anglisht". That might make it easier. [Wink]
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I've been known to speak some Angli-sht on occasion.
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Now you tell me! [Wall Bash]
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It seems like the lunch box is sticky? [Eek!]

[ROFL]

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Well, I didn't find this thread until 3:35 hatrack time, but I have so far, in word order, apparently like/if/kind of hen (that part seems screwy) has ____ ____ from sticky.

This is based on googling for albanian dictionary and using the online dictionary that came up to look up words.

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Yeah, in a few minutes I was able to figure it was albanian (google tip: when a foreign sentence brings up no results on its own, break it up into one or two of the longer/non-prepositional-looking words, and search on those), and then use the one online Albanian-English dictionary (which is actually pretty good, it allows for approximates and word pattern searches!) for the following:

"Apparently if hen has eaten bread by (hand|door|hundreds|70 other non-fitting options)"

^-- That was straight word for word translation/approximation... I don't doubt I'd need to transliterate some Albanian idioms to make proper sense.

And no, I'm not going to actually find someone who knows Albanian to translate it.

-Bok

[ November 21, 2003, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]

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Okay, valiant efforts all. Here's the answer. Don't read on if you want to continue searching.

*****SPOILERS*****

In Albania, when a person looks sad, disappointed or beaten, they use a phrase which means, "you look like a chicken stole your bread", or, more directly translated, is: "It appears that a chicken has taken the bread from your hand." Such a silly phrase, it is my favourite Albanian idiom.

Albanian nouns are conjugated along with the verbs. The word "dora" is a conjugation of "dorė" which means "hand", but "dora" can also be translated as "sticky" (although it's not frequently used), hence the confusion.

I'm surprised at how close everyone came, for a strange idiom in an obscure language. Shumė mir, all. [Big Grin]

[ November 21, 2003, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Speed ]

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Youth ap Orem
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I was wrong?
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Nouns are never conjugal, they are ALWAYS declined [Smile]

Sorry, nerd humor inspired by 4 years of Latin.

Nouns use declension.
Verbs use conjugation.

-Bok

EDIT: I expect you, Speed, to try out my super-duper-hard net scavenger hunt, out of fairness [Smile]

[ November 21, 2003, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]

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Adjectives, articles, and prepositions (in Welsh, at least) also decline. Conjugations deal with the tense, mood, number, and person of a verb. Declensions deal instead with case, gender, and number.

[ November 21, 2003, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]

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I knew that, JB, but since a noun was used in this case, I saw no need to mention the differences elsewhere.

By the way, yes, you do get extra nerd points for one-upping an already nerdy response! [Smile]

-Bok

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Oh, I figured you already knew that. I just wanted those extra nerd points.
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