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Alucard...
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Details include a 2-disc set:

Disk one: the movie

Disk two:

Revolutions recalibrated - the making of

CG Revolution - the incredible special effects arsenal

Super Burly Brawl - behind the final showdown

Future Gamer: The Matrix online - a look at the Matrix Online multiplayer game

Before the Revolution: Matrix timeline

3-D Revolution - multidimensional stills gallery

Yes this does not come out until Tuesday, April 6th, but I am taking one home today and basking in all its glory. Even better for me personally is that I missed this in the theatres.

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Do you actually expect us to believe you, given that it is April 1st?
[Wink]
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I think it's a cry for pity. I've seen that movie ::shudder::
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My question is...and that is cool because?

Matrix for me ranks up there with Star Wars. after I saw the second Matrix, I lost all interest in the third.

I have friends who say it was kinda good tho. I can wait to rent. KILL BILL, on the other hand, would make me drool in envy for the next 2 weeks.

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There, there. Just 'cause you have it doesn't mean you have to watch it!
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quote:
Even better for me personally is that I missed this in the theatres.
You're right. That is good.
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Alucard...
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Pfft.

I never said this is cool. I am just tickled for having a crack to watch it. All of you make it sound like Revolutions ranks right up there with Police Academy 6.

I mean, how bad can it possibly be?

[Dont Know]

And anyone who mentions Waterworld gets it. Be forewarned. [Evil] [Evil] [Evil]

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The Pixiest
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Highlander 2... Alien 3....
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"Actually, I quite liked it..."

-Arthur Dent on Vogon Poetry.

I really did though

<ducks barrage of stones>

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*shudders in fear of terrible memory of revolutions and reloaded*
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I have to stand up for it: the whole Matrix trilogy is one of the best stories ever ! Each one of the three movies has its faults, but the good parts are there too, and there's more of them than bad ones. IMHO. And it's not an April Fool's joke, honestly !
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Jon Boy
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I think that if you liked Reloaded, you'll like Revolutions.
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Rhaegar The Fool
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The first one was a surreal godlike experience, the second two blew.
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quote:
The first one was a surreal godlike experience, the second two blew.
That kind of how all my surreal godlike experience goes. The first one is great, but then the next two blo. Then the next is great, etc, etc.
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If you didn't like the last two, your expectations were too high.

The first one was a great action movie with great atmosphere and cinematography. The last two were more of the same. Thus I enjoyed all three.

[ April 01, 2004, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: twinky ]

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Jon Boy
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What Twinky said. The first was good, but by no means was it a "surreal godlike experience."
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People expected the Wachowski brothers to tell them the meaning of life.

They forgot Douglas Adams already did it.

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I think most people would have been satisfied if they had told them the meaning of the movie.
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Jon Boy
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I wasn't aware that the movies were supposed to have a "meaning."
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skillery
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!!!SPOILERS!!!

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Reloaded was cool, with the albino twins car chase and Mr. Anderson finding out that he was still only a program.

But that simulation-within-a-simulation concept must not play too well to the masses, because in Revolutions they totally backed away from the idea. I missed the Oracle lady and her cookies.

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Dobbie
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They should at least have a plot that makes sense.
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Corwin
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To you...
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Jon Boy
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Simulation-within-a-simulation? What? I must've missed that part. And anyway, it was too late for them to back off of anything. The two were filmed together.

[ April 01, 2004, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]

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The problem with the third movie was that The Brothers started to believe the hype. They thought that they had provided a "surreal god-like experience" and figured they could answer all those questions. The third movie spent half its time lamely trying to answer them before realizing it was in too deep and settling for what the series has always been: action films with cool special effects.
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skillery
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quote:
I have, in my hand, a copy of The Matrix. How cool does that make me?
...depends on what you've got in the other....

Oh, never mind.

!!!Spoilers!!!

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Yes, simulation-within-a-simulation. That's what the boss program told him at the end of Reloaded. Then Neo tested the notion and found that he had super powers in what he thought was real life.

[ April 01, 2004, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: skillery ]

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Strider
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skillery. you're way off. and if i had more time i'd explain. i might have a link somewhere that would be helpful. it was another system of control, but not another simulation.
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skillery
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quote:
Strider:

but not another simulation

But not flesh and bone either.
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Jon Boy
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What? Did we even watch the same movie, skillery?
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Alucard...
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I have IN MY HAND, a copy of Chicago, which I will scan and then take home The Matrix: Revolutions in its place.

[proceeds to say "nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" to those who do not embrace the question: what is the matrix?]

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Alucard...
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I think I am going to like the movie though, because I loved the first two. Sure, Reloaded was an open-ended movie that set up Revolutions, but I can certainly allow the Brothers that creative license.

C'mon people, I either have to buy Matrix or Brother Bear. "I choose the Matrix"

[proceeds to eat a nice juicy steak that I know is not real, but is still juicy and tasty]

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seriously, since you haven't seen it... skip the part about the trainman and stuff and just pick up with the rescue from the Merovingian (only because it's worth it to see Ralphie one more time) and go forward... the movie makes much more sense from there forward (in light of the other movies)
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skillery
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From Reloaded:

Neo: Why am I here?

The Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.

Neo: You haven't answered my question.

The Architect: Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.

The Architect: The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program...

No wonder folks hated the sequal.

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I actually loved that exchange <shrug>
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Nowhere in there does the Architect say that there's a simulation within a simulation. When Neo returns to the real world and has awesome powers, it really is the real world. That was abundantly clear in the third movie.
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Well, I liked it. Revolutions was much better than Reloaded.

And I liked Waterworld and Alien 3 too, so there. [Big Grin]

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The Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it (Zion), and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

The Architect: It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were, by design, based on a similar predication: a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis: love.

This is the sixth time the simulation has been run. The previous five iterations resulted in the destruction of Zion.

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Simulation = the Matrix
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skillery
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The Architect's simulation=the world in which Zion exists.

The matrix=the simulation program going on in real people's brains as they lie naked in the copper-top testtubes.

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The world in which Zion exists is the real world. The Architect runs the simulation (the Matrix), and Zion gets destroyed in the end. It's really not that complicated.
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skillery
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If Zion is in the real world, then how did the Architect destroy it five times?
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Jon Boy
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BY SENDING FREAKING SENTINELS, JUST LIKE IN REVOLUTIONS!

[ April 01, 2004, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]

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At the end of Reloaded...(well, just before the end)

Zion exists...yet Zion was destroyed five times.

And, as ratty as Zion looked in Reloaded, it did not look as if it had been destroyed five times before. Besides, how long would have it taken to rebuild it? Versus how long the Matrix had supposedly been running.

Therefore...the five previous Zions were destroyed in a virtual world. Resetting the program also rebuilt Zion.

But what do I know--I haven't seen Revolutions yet.

As bad as it's supposed to be...I'm still wondering if I should buy or rent?

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And each of the five Zions had a savior named Neo?
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Yes, they did.

Eerie coincidence, wouldn't you say? What would you say the probabilities are for that happening?
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Oh, wait--it's just a self-important movie. Nevermind.

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So Neo starts out as Mr. Anderson with a desk job inside the Matrix simulation.

Neo is decanted from his copper top tube into another simulated world, in which he is the "One," the savior of Zion.

We know that the Zion world is itself a simulation because Zion has been destroyed five times before when previous versions of Neos failed.

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But seriously (somewhat)

Each of the previous Zions had a saviour named Neo.

Each of the Neo's looked exactly like Keanu Reeves.

I have always felt (well, always since I saw "Reloaded," at least) that all the images of Neo on the television screens in the Architecht's chamber were replaying videos of the previous five incarnations of Neo. Others have said that the images are of his deeper feelings...but then why are there a couple of (maybe five? I haven't counted, nor will I) different responses, and not just one? Is Neo "that deep" (emotionally, I guess, instead of temporally)?

Does this movie really warrant any further analysis? It's like dissecting a stick.

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[Wall Bash]

I give up.

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Skillery,

Neo is never really decanted.

<<Spoiler Request>>

I haven't seen "Revolutions"...is he?

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In the third movie I was hoping that Neo would break out of the Zion simulation and find himself eating a burger at Wendy's.

The Thirteenth Floor was a much better simulation-within-a-simulation movie.

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Skillery is refusing to 'get' the movie [Razz]
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