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Ryuko
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I know there's someone around here who likes this series, but AN Entertainment has picked up "Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu" for distribution in America.

[Smile] Just news I remembered someone would get a kick out of.

[ July 10, 2004, 10:58 AM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]

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Erik Slaine
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Who did it? Who released it over here?
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Ryuko
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Um... AN entertainment?
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Erik Slaine
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Why I ask is this:

Disney did a pretty good job of translating it's aquisitions of Myazaki into English, but when I watch them in Japanese, with a more direct translation of the dialog, we can see the subtle differences that arise from the allowance for culture. In Spirited Away this difference is all about the transition from worship of gods to stories of spirits, more like a haunting than an animistic universe. I enjoy the English dub almost as much as the original Japanese.

Ranma 1/2 however, has good timing in Japanese, but the subtitles lose the cross-cultural appeal. The changes by the American team, who have excellent comic timing, actually seem to be more clever than the subtitles. I enjoy the English dub more than the original Japanese in this case.

The company that imports the anime makes a great difference on what kind of product that we will get over here. [Cool]

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PSI Teleport
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Dude, that's the greatest anime series out there! I'm so excited! Thanks, Ryuko!

Ummm, it's always good to get the name correct of the person who started the thread.

[ July 10, 2004, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]

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PSI Teleport
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The problem with Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu is that the language used is extremely high context, and the person of Guu will probably not be done right. If anyone needs to see this in Japanese, I have most of the series.

(I mean, uh, I DON'T have most of the series... [Wink] )

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Ryuko
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Well, it's AN entertainment, and I've heard good things about their dub for Risky Safety. I might just be biased for Online Stores starting Distributing companies, because of how awesome The Right Stuf did. Generally it means that fans are dubbing and subbing the titles.
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So you do have it but you don't? How could I possibly get it but not? *_*
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PSI Teleport
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Yeah, I, uh, DON'T have the whole first season and half of the OVAs in AVI format, and I, uh, WOULDN'T be willing to share.

So DON'T e-mail me if you'd like tham, at maureenfanta AT hotmail DOT com.

[ July 10, 2004, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]

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Yay! I love it when some crappy, third-rate company releases yet another of Japan's many animated table scraps.
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Jutsa Notha Name
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Whassa matta, PC? You don't like the idea of more tales of corporate-vampire-robot vixens from the dimension of demons? Or how about yet another attempt to mix Hindu, Bhuddist, Christian, and pagan myths together into a touching story of love between a boy (with hair that defies gravity) who has lived a hard life and a schoolgirl with pigtails and blue hair? Don't forget the cool fight scenes!
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Thanks for the tip Ryuko. You know I'd eat anime with a rusty spoon if I had to.

(Sure beats Ed, Edd, and Eddy, Jutsa)! [Big Grin]

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Erik Slaine
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Hmmm.

Ed=T_Smith, Edd=Jon Boy, Eddy=Pat.

[Big Grin]

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PSI Teleport
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Gee, PC, I guess it would be too much to ask you to actually watch it before you judge it.
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Are there busty vampire robots from the dimension of demons? Because if so, I think I've seen it already. [Smile]
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Jutsa Notha Name
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Reason I dislike anime the most: most of the fans.

Real conversation to follow. This other guy here has been watching this three DVD anime series over the course of the last three days. I've seen clips of it walking by to the bathroom, to the kitchen, going out and coming into the place. I don't notice anything in these small clips except that no matter when I walk by, they seem to always be doing the exact same thing. Whatever, though. Different strokes and all. As I'm making lunch this afternoon, this other guy and two friends walk into the kitchen talking about different anime movies. Some other name of some series is mentioned. This is a true account of what happened...

Other Guy: Yeah, but that cartoon is stupid. They have these huge swords and people have cat ears... it's just stupid.

Me (butting in, amused): Yeah, but didn't some of the characters in the movies you've been watching over the last three days have cat ears? And whiskers? And huge swords?

Other Guy (annoyed): You don't understand. This story is about ninjas.

Me (ready to burst): Ninjas? So ninjas have cat ea--

Other Guy: You wouldn't understand.

(Other Guy walks out)

That is just one conversation out of many, with just one fan. Most others go about as successfully. I'm glad it makes sense to those of you who love it, but it simply looks like mindless setups for violence and heavy sexualizing of girls (they all are young, they all dress about the same, and they are always giddy) to me, even though I know of a few exceptions to that rule. [Dont Know]

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Olivetta
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I thought all Anime was ... well, i didn't really think of it at all. Until a Japanese friend gave Ron some tapes (un-dubbed and without subtitles). The gems he gave us included Kiki's delivery service and My Neighbor Totoro.

Then, another friend of Ron's said, "Oh, if you like Anime, you should check out this and this."

One was Akira, which was visually stunning and fairly fun until the incomprehensible (in any language) final act. The other was, God help me, some awful Hentai thing. [Eek!]

In any case, we've watched some different things over the years. I recently got hooked on Gundam Wing (hadn't seen it before). I think all probably goes back to my childhood, when I had a mad crush on Speed Racer. Totally hated that vapid chick of his, though. [Big Grin]

Mark recently had me watching some X 1999 which I think is based on a Manga by CLAMP. It's lovely, if a bit thick on melodrama and pathos, heroic duty/sacrifice. They do kind of belabor the dreamseer in a coma thing. I mean, it IS wonderfully horrible to have a character who can see the fate of the world but still be unable to affect it in any way (or even interact with real people). But they really grind it in. I tend to appreciate subtlty.

But anyway... I'm rarely around Anime fans other than my brother-in-law, so *shrug* They may be jerks. The fact that some scifi geeks I've met are frightening, weird or vaguely superior in ther geekiness doesn't keep me from watching Firefly, or whatever.

If I enjoy something, it doesn't mean I have to identify myself with all people who enjoy it. And I usually will try something to see if I like it, even if someone who likes it has stepped on my toe.

I'm just sayin'...

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Jutsa Notha Name
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Nah, they aren't jerks. They are, however, mind-numbing to discuss anything with about the genre, though. Makes me want to not even bother. Then, when I see examples of what is popular in the larger crowds of them, I'm made a bit nauteous by the subtle furry/kiddie undertones in a lot of it. [Angst]
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Olivetta
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furry/kiddie? I'm sort of glad I have no idea what you mean. They may just be really into a sub-genre of Anime that fixates on a particular theme.

I know people who like the tentacle things. I don't, but there must be a lot of it. If I only knew about Anime through Hentai Geeks, I'd probably have avoided even mainstream Anime. In that case, though, I'd have been missing out on Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and, well, a bunch of cool stuff. There are as many kinds of Anime as there are other genres of movies (you have romance, drama, historical drama, comedy, scifi (probably several sub-genres that are pornographic) thrillers, etc. Perfect Blue is kind of a psychological thriller, for example.

Lots of interesting stuff.

I've never heard of the one this thread is about, though. What is it like?

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I lived in a subdivided house.

The guy in the other half of hte house liked anime.

His TV was right next to the paper thin partition that composed the 'walls' of the subdivision.

This gentleman had a Japanese wife.

He understood Japanese.

Sir would watch his anime in the original Japanese.

Did you know that fully 99% of what women say in the original Japanese in anime sounds a lot like eight year olds shrieking and that these shrieks are not at all effected by what we in the material world call 'walls', much less 'partitions?

Did you know that there are often several women 'talking' at once in anime?

I do.

Please. I beg of you, in the name of all that is good and true, don't watch anime in the original Japanese! We have many fine American cartoons which are much *better* that anime. We invented cartoons for crying out loud. Huckleberry Hound. Bugs Bunny. Duck Dodgers in the 21st and a half century. Bambi Meets Godzilla. Why settle for the imitation when the real thing is so easy to get and doesn't sound like a truck load of girls being driven off a cliff?

[Hat]

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Olivetta
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I avoid Anime with female characters for similar reasons. Also, they tend to be idealized, passive place-holders. I hate that. Which may or may not be why I like Yaoi. Some of the voices in (Japanese and dubbed versions) are just like, whoa. [Big Grin]
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Erik Slaine
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Let this be a lesson to all of us:

Watch Anime Responsibly!

[No No]

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Olivetta
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And, um, how do you know it was all Anime? I mean, couldn't some of it have been live action Shrill Voices? [Wink]
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I actually get the "you wouldn't understand" thing, if only because you have to get used to the context in which the shows are delivered to be able to enjoy it. In other words, you have to get used to it.
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All them squinty-eyed anime boys need a good whuppin'. Least their women know their place. Anybody don't agree with me, I'll fight you.
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Olivetta
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Mmmm... squinty-eyed Anime boys... [Wink]
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The next Miyazaki collection (Nausicaa, Totoro, and Porco Rosso) has been delayed until early 2005 [Grumble]

ARRRG! Totoro and Porco Rosso are, next to Kiki's Delivery Service, my favorite Miyazaki films, and I depserately want legit DVD copies of them in my collection. Right. Now.

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Insanity Plea
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PSI: did you get my email?
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Has no one mentioned Neon Genesis Evangelion?

No submissive place holder females in that series!

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