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The Silverblue Sun
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Did anyone else just see one of the defining moments of modern American culture???

Goodbye John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix!

Hello - corporate musak!

Congratulations!

You've just won the truth!!!

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The Silverblue Sun
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And when she came out,
she blamed the band.

"They played the wrong song."

Heh. Heh. hahahahahahha

Oh Lord, Thank You.

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Verily the Younger
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It's only a quarter to ten where I am right now. I don't really watch SNL anymore, but now I'm going to have to just to find out what the deuce you're talking about.
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Katarain
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Umm... what happened?

-Katarain

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Nothing much. The band played a song that was different from what she was singing, and they had to stop. I'm not sure how that defines anything.
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Sean
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Except that she apparently decided to sing the same song they'd already performed, and managed to do so without moving her lips. Then she did a little dance and walked off, leaving the band to suffer alone until somebody mercifully cut off the segment.

It was pretty funny.

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Chaeron
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It was great. If this incident fails to destroy her career, then music as we know it has been killed.
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Um...who?
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Jessica Simpson's sister. Better known as Whatshername.
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The Silverblue Sun
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I have NEVER before in my life seen anything like that on SNL.

She came out on stage.
The band starts to play.
She starts to dance.
And then her lip synch track
plays while SHE ISN'T SINGING!!!!

The band keeps playing.
The Engineer fades out the lip synch track.
She walks off stage with the bad still playing.

Fade to commercial.

Wowzers!

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gnixing
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are there any online links to this clip? i don't do tv, but i'd like to see this.
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*googles*

found it.

snl - ashlee simpson

um... wow.

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Man, I love you Thor.
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katharina
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I'm deeply ashamed that I can make this post.

The Incident (follow one of the links - that's various versions)

The apology where she blamed the band

The remix

The defense

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gnixing
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i like how the band smirked and kept playing as she floundered. thanks for the extra links kat!

i never thought i'd say it but... you made my morning thor.

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Noemon
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I saw that last night. I felt a lot worse for her before she blamed her band.

Love the additonal links kat!

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If I wanted to see lipsincing I'd watch Hindi Movies.
Mmmm Hindi movies [Big Grin]

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Verily the Younger
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Alas, I didn't get to see it. I got really tired and went to bed before SNL even came on. Oh well.
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Holy cow!

Does anyone else think the band was in on this? I mean, did they play the wrong song on purpose, perhaps to expose her?

If so, interesting...very interesting.

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OMG that was freaking hilarious. I wouldn't be surprised if the band did it on purpose, there was one guitarist with a big grin on his face when he was on camera.

Unfortunately, the apology link is giving me a "bandwidth exceeded" error... I'll have to try again another time. And I LOVE the remix!

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I think the band was playing the right song, but the booth crew cued up the wrong lip-sync track. As near as I can tell, the band actually tried to cover for her by switching to the music that goes with the vocal track (does anyone here listen to Ashlee and can confirm that?). Basically, someone in the booth pressed the wrong button by accident or by design.

At any rate, I doubt her career is over. Is anyone surprised by lyp-sync any more?

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The funniest thing about that, though, is if she hadn't blamed the band, the producers could have just edited the performance out and pretended it didn't happen. I bet the only reason it made it to TV was so that people would know what she was talking about at the end.
It was live. [Smile]
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Rappin' Ronnie Reagan
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No, it was live. Tina Fey mentioned the Red Sox winning during Weekend Update and that had only happened maybe 5 minutes before.
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Icarus
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Speed, I think you're thinking of Leno and Letterman. I believe SNL is usually live.
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Isn't it Saturday Night LIVE ?
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Unless they had taped three versions! One for Red Sox, one for Cardinals and one for tie!
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katharina
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I can't decide if I've become too cynical. Who actually thought that most of those girls DON'T lip sync? The same thing has happened to Hilary Duff and Jennifer Lopez before, but they didn't walk off the stage and sort of covered for it. Of course she lip syncs!! They all lip sync! If an actress decides to become a musician, my assumption is that they can't sing and have to lip sync to doctored tracks.
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I can understand the temptation to lip-sync live, because it's hard to hear your own vocals. That, plus nerves, makes it easy to go off-key.

However, it sort of takes away the point of doing a live performance if you're just pretending.

I don't know enough about Simpson's songs, so I can't tell if the band tried to change the song to compensate.

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Watching even a few seconds of that was painful. [Frown]

Hobbes [Smile]

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I can understand the temptation to lip-sync live, because it's hard to hear your own vocals. That, plus nerves, makes it easy to go off-key.
If you want to be a singer, that's part of the territory. *shrug* If you don't want to be the center of attention, if you don't want to be on stage, get a job doing data entry in a bank or something.
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Watching even a few seconds of that was painful. [Frown]
Yeah, I agree. The dancing was quite painful to watch.

[ October 24, 2004, 09:02 PM: Message edited by: Rappin' Ronnie Reagan ]

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Icarus
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Mmmmm, nope.
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The Silverblue Sun
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SNL is live.

Yo.

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Icarus
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Wait, I think I know what's going on. Your profile says you live out west. I'm pretty sure you guys get it on a one or two hour tape delay.

ALternately, I've seen that same disclaimer on weeks when they don't have a new episode.

[Dont Know]

If it weren't live, Sineed O'Connor would have had a harder time with her career-ending stunt. Funny about that show . . .

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You know, I wonder what percentage of their musical guests lip synch their songs.
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What stunt? Ripping up the Pope's picture?
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I once spent an evening where a songwriter was premeiring a new CD. There were real singers doing the vocals live, but the intstraments were from the CD. That was okay - not great, but at least the performers were live. Then, one of the tracks was just the instraments with no vocals, and we were forced to sit for about six minutes group-listening to a CD.

Horribly boring, and the tackiest thing I'd ever had to sit through.

But yeah - don't they usually lip sync? Especially the actresses turned images?

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What stunt? Ripping up the Pope's picture?
I assume that's what he meant.

Dagonee

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I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me.
Not after calling me a smart-ass. Dipwad. [Razz]
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Icarus
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Here's a working link to the apology/blame shift:

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~m1hjjaap/snlaftermath.mpg

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katharina
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There's a web site already: http://www.lipsync.us/
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I remember when SNL prided itself on NOT allowing lip-syncing. [Roll Eyes]
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I wouldn't be surprised if the band did it on purpose, there was one guitarist with a big grin on his face when he was on camera.

Don't you think that that setting up one's employer like that would be career suicide for a studio musician?
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I don't think the band set her up, but I agree they are laughing. They just witnessed a car (vocal track playing), a train (the dancing), and a plane (wandering off stage) all crash into each other, and they probably knew what she should have done instead. They can think it's funny without being in on it.
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Exactly. They're the real pros up there, and they handled the situation well. I'm sure that they did think it was funny, but it looked to me like their smiles to each other were acknowledgement both of the f'ed up nature of the situation and of appreciation for how they were bringing things around musically, and of confirmation that they were all on the same track as to what to do.
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It just keeps getting worse. Her web site has been flooded with criticisms, and she posted.

quote:

Get your jabs in now
10/24/2004 8:00:55 PM - by Ashlee Simpson

Once i can get in contact with the webmaster, everythings getting deleted. It doesn't matter anyway, there's too many important people behind my career to stop it now.

The story and links are here.
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"I'm more famous than Je-- Um. . . Jesse Ventura!"
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SaturdayNightLive has been taped and time-delayed ever since Sinead ripped the Pope's picture on air.
So the director thought it was a good idea to air the segment. Which leads to the question about whether s/he also thought it would be a good idea, a "funny joke" to rerun the show's recording of Ashley's first song instead of the planned-for prerecorded drums.

[ October 25, 2004, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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Saturday Night Live is live on the East Coast. It was live this Saturday on the East Coast - the mountain and pacific time zones are on tape delay.
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As I said, SNL is not a simulcasting. It has been long been taped pre-broadcast for the time-delay allowing a director's cut.
That the EastCoast television audience saw the "gaffe" was strictly a decision by the director.

[ October 25, 2004, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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