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I am sick and tired of being called a bigot.
I have bought every one of his books but I will not any longer. The man will get not one dime of my money.
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I too have looked for these books, hoping to see Jordan dethroned and buried as the so called "King of Fantasy" His last book was so bad it made me ill and with a 10 book investment in the wheel of time I will likely have to buy the next anyway.
Oh well maybe I will get lucky and die in Iraq. If the next book is as big a dissapointment it would be preferable.
quote:The exit polling makes it clear: this was a victory for bigotry and fear, a mandate bought with lies.
If it's a victory for people like me, who support Bush, then it sounds to me like he is calling me and people like me a bigot.
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Drama Drama Drama, that is what defines the left, self importance made policy. Thought on a human scale made divine.
They do not even take themselves seriously. That is why they can back Kerry, applauding his straw man act as art only they are gifted enough to appreciate or see. We on the Right were totally fooled!
Even if Kerry had been elected, it seems unlikely he would have backed the issue of gay rights or attempted to defeat the currently proposed and passed ammendments regarding the same topic.
If memory serves, every candidate so questioned dove quickly into the waters of "no opinion".
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Lupus -- be nice. He's writing a thousand page book in a complex series.
I wish it was out NOW, but I'd rather wait to read something great instead of something that's just OK...
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Yes, George is sad about the election, and yes, he is way overdue on his book. At Bubonicon he announced that he had enough pages for the book, but was working on the structure and ending. So, hang tight
Pretty much all of us nothern New Mexico science fiction people are staunch Democrats, and I've gotten a lot of emails from George and others today expressing their frustrations. Don't be insulted by George. If you saw him, you'd probably be more inclined to want to hug him. He's a good man in a very bad mood. And slow writer....
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Could send him one of the black ribbons that were being passed out by some in my fencing club to wear to show mourning.
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Yep, you could, or you could send him a nice email. Don't go flooding his email box, guys, because he reads them all and that slows his writing down even more, but if you happen to share his ideology that might cheer him up nicely.
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I guess I don't understand why an author who expresses his political opinions deserves to lose readers. I mean, if it's in their writing, maybe. But, I don't usually want to deprive my political opponents of a livelihood. ("You don't agree with my politics? No more income for you!" I don't think so.) For that matter, the authors that I consider my friends and the ones whose books I love are two overlapping but distinct groups of people. OSC and I do not agree on a lot of political issues, but I'm always happy to read his work. He's still a great writer, and I would say that even if he was a total jerk to me (he's not, of course.)
George was, I believe, a VISTA worker. He's had an interesting life and grew up in the projects. Walk a mile in his shoes and, while you may not agree with him, you should appreciate where he's coming from. He's entitled to his opinion, don't you think? If you don't agree, vote differently, don't punish the man.
Okay, must. sleep. now. Was up late last night working as a mobile field attorney for Election Protection helping people of *both* parties exercise their right to vote.
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Belle, Lupus, do you agree that Telperion and KarlEd should stop reading OSC's stuff? Because he's been considerably and consistently more hostile to homosexuals seeking marriage rights than Martin was to Republicans here.
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It's not that I want to keep him from getting my money -- it's just that he personally offended me by calling me a bigot. Can you see why that would make me less interested in reading his books?
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Okay, sorry, one last post. Just got another email from George, and he did not write that update on his site. It was written by another writer and friend. He agrees with it, so maybe it doesn't matter, but it was just funny that I received this right after posting here.
Yeah, I understand not liking people who call you bigots, but I read stuff by people who have said direct personal insults to my face. I won't deprive myself of good art just because of the artist, unless they're writing is just propaganda, or unless they're actually using the proceeds to do something that would directly cause harm to someone. I think I would have seriously hated Hemingway. Great writer, though.
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He didn't write it? *blink* Forgive me, OlavMah, but I find that rather bizarre. I mean, he signed it, and it starts with "I wrote this the day after the election." And he references his own struggle with AFFC.
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It is how it was said. I did not like it when he put up the Kerry banner, but I would not stop reading his books because of it. I think this latest post went way over the line. OlavMah...regardless of whether his fingers typed out the message does not really matter to me. He allowed it to be posted to his site and attributed to him (at it was written as it was him), so it amounts to the same thing. While he has the right to express himself as he wishes, his fans have the right to express themselves by refusing to give him money.
As for OSC, I can't speak for Telperion and KarlEd but if I was in their position, I doubt I would want to support OSC.
Do I have to agree with the politics of everyone I read (or watch)? No. I really enjoy Joss Whedon's work, and he is a democrat who actively supported Kerry. But as of yet, he did not go out demonizing those who did not agree with him.
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Belle, I think he was talking about the proposals in many states than ban same-sex marrages, not those who voted for Bush. It sounded like that to me, anyway.
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Wait, he didn't write that? I don't have a problem with the political content of the message, but I have to say I feel kind of tricked by the fact that that was written as though it were by him when in fact it wasn't. Why the ruse? Why not just say "Hi, this is X. Geroge is feeling too depressed over the election to write an update to this site, let alone work on his novel", or something like that?
I'm a little bothered by this. Not "I'll never read another word he writes" bothered, but "I kind of wish I hadn't sent him that nice email" bothered.
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I actually feel better that he didn't write that. "Winter is coming for Westeros, but it's already here"? I'm dissapointed with the results of the election, but that was adolescent dramatic. It looked like an excuse to stop writing - "It's not my fault it's been years. It's your fault for voting for him." I liked Michelangelo's comment much better. "When will it be done?" "When it is finished." I like Martin better for knowing he DIDN'T write that.
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Well, yeah, I agree that that ending was a bit juvenile, but I was chalking the melodrama of it up to the fact that he was generally feeling despondant. I may have made an overblown statement or two when upset myself. What I don't like is that this was passed off as though it were something he'd written, when if fact he hadn't.
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Yeah, okay, I was wrong. That was obviously written by him. I guess what his email meant was that he wasn't the one who entered it onto his site - sorry for the confusion. I just went and read it though, and when it's first person like that, you can be sure he wrote it somewhere and the other person transcribed it.
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"Just a few hours ago, ***** posted an update about my novel on my website, which included some strong words about how I was feeling in the aftermath of the election."
Hence my confusion. Sorry 'bout that. Nice to see you too Noemon.
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