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You know, this is actually the first Pixar film so far that I'm not particularly interested in seeing based on the early teasers. It's just waaaay out of my demographic.
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I probably wouldn't really be interested in this one either but my son is sitting here with me and he keeps saying "Trucks. Again!" He seems very excited and that is enough to make me want to see it if only for his reaction.
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Whereas I used to play with toys, can appreciate tropical fish, and collect superhero comics, I have little to no interest in NASCAR or hillbilly rustbuckets. That's not to say that they couldn't find a way to make it worthwhile for me -- I have a certain amount of faith in Pixar by now -- but holding my interest is definitely going to be an uphill battle for 'em. But, as I said, I don't imagine that grabbing my interest is their priority with this film.
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I'm going to agree with the lot of you and say that I hope that there's more to the movie than what's shown in the teaser. But do remember, Pixar is yet to have a flop, so I'll wait for the next trailer...
quote:Whereas I used to play with toys, can appreciate tropical fish, and collect superhero comics, I have little to no interest in NASCAR or hillbilly rustbuckets.
But I'm betting you do drive a car....
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Tom, I wasn't interested by the Incredibles trailer last year, but now I'm excited to see it based on the positive energy it's generated. I'm expecting something similar to happen with Cars.
Everyone's loved the Incredibles, and I have little doubt the Cars will be anything but excellent.
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I heard similar rumblings from folks (my wife in particular) about Finding Nemo. Pixar gets the benefit of the doubt.
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It's a public competition played for entertainment, and based on a physical skill. What else do you call those?
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echoing the Tick, I thought Finding Nemo was gonna suck and it's probably the best of the bunch...
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I got pretty close, MEC I'd say that definitions 1 and 3 fit NASCAR quite well, and 2 fits if you consider hard driving to be "exertion" ...
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Tick, I had similar rumblings about Finding Nemo, too. I was a bit more intrigued by the Incredibles, but I certainly didn't expect to love it and was really surprised. Maybe, just maybe...
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That's what I figured I was mostly pointing out the accuracy of my definition to bug kaioshin ...
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The Incredibles is an action movie that is entertaining and well-written, but has a muddled point. It's something along the lines of "Don't settle for average" but ends up being cliche, somewhat inconsistent, and lost among a series of action sequences.
Finding Nemo is equally entertaining and well-written, but also has greater depth (depth! - get it?). It's a parable about the need for risk taking in a meaningful life, and it is focused much better around that main idea.
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I enjoyed Finding Nemo, but I did check my watch a couple of times during it. When I was watching The Incredibles, I was pretty much immersed in the world for the duration of the movie--didn't check my watch once. Superheros formed a huge part of the mythological backdrop of my childhood, though, so that could easily be why I was so enthralled.
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I probably liked A Bug's Life the least, but that still means it's better than alot of other animated movies out there. I think it comes down to the voice actors. Never really found Dave Foley all that funny and that may have transferred over.
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I think The Incredibles and Monsters, Inc. tie for second in my rankings... and loved both of them.
But Finding Nemo is just an awesome film, especially if you're a dad.
I didn't think the Incredibles had a muddled message, BTW, and it was a tremendously fun movie... just not quite up to matching Finding Nemo
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It reminds me of that Disney cartoon short about the little blue car that gets messed up and put back together again. Anyone remember that one?
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When I saw the preview for it it made me think of Bill Peet's work. I wish I could travel back in time with a copy of this movie, and show it to my brother when he was about 3 years old. I don't think that anything on earth would have a made a 3 year old him happier than this movie.
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Tres - The Incredibles doesn't actually have a point... in the "moral of the story" kind of way, at least.
Pixar's movies tend to have underlying moral points, which I'm okay with, but The Incredibles seems to be more of a tale for entertainment instead of something with a deeper moral significance. So, it's fluffier, which is a departure from standard Pixar fare, but Brad Bird did say it was an action movie.
As far as action movies go, it was excellent. They characters were well done, and they had me believing these characters were in danger - not something that a lot of action movies these days necessarily do well.
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Very true. But two great movies of different genres are harder to compare than two of similar genre.
I could imagine a friendly argument where one side would say that Die Hard is a better movie than The Rock. But saying the Die Hard is a better movie than Ghostbusters is a harder argument to make.
Hrm, the more I think about this, the more I find myself wanting to use modifiers like "good action movie." I agree: between two great movies, the one with more depth has the advantage.
I hold that detracting from The Incredibles for having a muddled point is unfair to the movie, because it's an action movie - such things rarely pretend to have points. But, I'd say that if I were to try and nail down the movie's point, it would be, "Be true to yourself."
Finding Nemo was a parable, whereas The Incredibles was an action movie - comparing the two as you did, apples to apples, doesn't make for a good measurement of either film because their focus and goals were different.
quote:Finding Nemo is equally entertaining and well-written, but also has greater depth (depth! - get it?).
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All movies from all genres should have a point, whether it be a simple "moral of the story" or something far more complex and subtle. Even action movies usually do, but they often lack depth - and as a result, action movies only rarely outdo dramas. Their genre does not excuse them.
Also, I think The Incredibles DOES have a very definite point it is driving at. The plot arc revolves around the Incredibles unhappiness with having to hide their gifts - and turns with their reevaluation of that decision. The same line is repeated twice, regarding the idea that in a world where everyone is super, nobody is. I think this all indicates the point is about the value of individual gifts, and the need to recognize them, to stand out.
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I'd say that definitions 1 and 3 fit NASCAR quite well, and 2 fits if you consider hard driving to be "exertion" ...
