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For anyone interested in the story behind the question in this thread, your answers will be found in a review of mine that just went online. But I might have already told you more than you want to know.

Here's a link, with the first part of the review. The rest of the review is a definite spoiler and you'll have to access the link for rest. It will spoil the "surprise" that left most critics panting over the movie. But it's also the best part of the review. [Wink]

Review: Million Dollar Baby

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Dangerous Times

By Steve Drake

I don't get boxing. I don't get why people dream of being boxers. More to the point, I don't get the millions of people who enjoy watching two people punch at each other until one can't punch back any more. I'm not being judgmental; I just don't get it. I may be the only person in the country who hasn't seen either Rocky or Requiem for a Heavyweight.

That's what really bothers me about Clint Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby: The movie pulled me in until the last half hour, in spite of the clichés and uneven acting.

For those of you have missed the hype, is the story of an aging "cut man" (Clint Eastwood) who doubles as trainer and manager for aspiring boxers. He becomes the reluctant trainer of a too-old and enthusiastic "hillbilly" named Maggie Fitzgerald (Hilary Swank). Morgan Freeman plays "Scrap," an ex-boxer whose last fight left him blind in one eye. The loss of vision is something Frankie feels responsible for and believes is a great tragedy (but he never bothers to ask Scrap how he feels about it).

There's a caricature of a person with cognitive disabilities in the movie, too. Played by Jay Baruchel, "Danger's" only function seems to be to show us how nice Scrap and Frankie are for tolerating his presence at Frankie's gym and how cruel the rest of the world is.

Where was I?

The plot's predictable. Even someone like me, unfamiliar with boxing movies, can figure out what's coming next. Maggie shows up at Frankie's gym and starts to train. Frankie ignores her. Scrap, impressed with her dedication, quietly gives her encouragement. Frankie rants several times about how he doesn't train "girls." Nevertheless, to no one's surprise, he slowly becomes involved in her training and ends up managing and promoting her.

Frankie finds a substitute daughter in Maggie. During a car ride, she tells Frankie about her dad's dog, who dragged his hindquarters around and how she and her brother laughed at the dog. Her dad, ill and with little time left to live, takes the dog out for one final ride, and only Dad comes back. (More on this later.)

I guess I should also mention that Frankie is a practicing Catholic who goes to church every day. It's not really clear why he does this, since mostly he yanks the chain of the priest with questions, not looking for answers, just looking to irritate.



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I'm having enough trouble keeping up with my already chosen advocacy tasks, so I'm just going to skip this one - and I was planning on seeing it because it looked very good. Your review will allow me to explain to others why.

Excellent review. Am I right in assuming that her decision-making process isn't even presented, rather the correctness of her decision is merely assumed?

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Adrenaline? Ugh. Did they do anything to elucidate this choice in the film?
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Uh.. I guess I'm slow on the uptake. I had to read it a couple of time to realize "aging cut-man (Clint Eastwood)" is the one named "Frankie" because it didn't exactly say that, and I was thinking of two separate characters at first.

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Farmgirl,

Actually, I don't think you are slow. I reread it and it is unclear. If it confused you, it will confuse other people. It's a result of one of the edits made - which are otherwise excellent edits.

I'll email the editor now.

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I want to thank sndrake for enriching my internet life and broadening my mind this past year. I know that's mushy, and I'm sorry, but I have forgotten to thank him for that in past posts. You have really caused me to think about disabilities and issues that effect us all (as human beings living together).

Enough mush.

Even I, with my limited experience, might have caught the ridiculousness of someone wishing to die rather than live handicapped. And boxing never made sense to me, either. I've caught snippets of "Rocky" on cable, but that's about it. I know a little about Ali because of his interesting life (his bombastic poetry, his conversion to Islam, etc). Oh! I know who George Foreman is! I have one of his grills (I *hate* it, it's a b*tch to clean).

Anyway, that's not what this post is supposed to be about.

Good review.

Carry on.

*grin*

edit: redundant redundancies

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I'm glad you said something, FG. I wouldn't have even gotten that. I kept asking myself where "Frankie" came in. Thank you for clarifying.

SnDrake, that was an informative and straight to the point article. I was so completely baffled by the other thread, but this explained everything. Thanks for enlightening me further. I assumed much of what you said, but I'm glad I know more on the issue now. Thanks.

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I will see it and write a review for a local paper (Op-Ed, letter to the editor, something).
Sara,

Thanks for this - and the other kind words you posted. You know I now expect to see what you write after you see this, though. [Smile]

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quote:

I'm having enough trouble keeping up with my already chosen advocacy tasks, so I'm just going to skip this one - and I was planning on seeing it because it looked very good. Your review will allow me to explain to others why.

Excellent review. Am I right in assuming that her decision-making process isn't even presented, rather the correctness of her decision is merely assumed?

Dag,

I'll answer the second part first. The decision-making process, such as it is, is pretty much as I have presented it. The deck was stacked with an unlikely picture of horrific medical complications in a short time. Maggie always said all she ever wanted to be was a boxer. By the time Eastwood is through, the audience is primed and ready.

For explaining, I wonder if I could impose on you to share with you within your church? A staff member of the Office for Film & Broadcasting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops put out a really mushy review. I can bet you'll find mine more compelling.

CNS Movie Review: Million Dollar Baby (excerpt)

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The movie is full of gladiatorial gore which those not favorably inclined toward blood-sports may find off-putting. However, it would be wrong to think of "Million Dollar Baby" as just another fight film. In truth, it is not as much about boxing as it is about moral wrestling within the arena of the human soul.

As for the theme of euthanasia, the film is not a polemic in favor of assisted suicide. The pain and devastation of those involved is achingly evident. However, in spite of all the soul-searching that precedes it, the deed itself is presented as an act of reluctant heroism. And given the dire circumstances, our sympathies and humane inclinations may argue in favor of such misguided compassion, but our Catholic faith prohibits us from getting around the fact that, in this case, the best-intended ends cannot justify the chosen means: the taking of a life.

But, to be fair, they did give it an "O" rating - morally offensive.
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One more thing for right now.

I expect the editor will change the wording - all it really takes is a name and a comma. It's on the web and easily fixed.

She's also the type that will see the problem right away.

Mary is a great editor and this is better than the one I gave her. But I take great pride in telling y'all that her edits were really minor this time. And that's something, because she's really tough.

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quote:
but our Catholic faith prohibits us from getting around the fact that, in this case, the best-intended ends cannot justify the chosen means: the taking of a life.
I don't like this at all. It's true, of course, and ends up advocating the same physical result, but it's starting the moral examination far too late in the process and misses the chance to reaffirm the inherent dignity and worth of ALL people. It's not just the killing that's the problem. The underlying implicit assumption of "better dead than disabled" has toxic effects far beyond assisted suicide.

If I can find this review printed in a paper that takes letters to the editor, I'm going to write in.

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Great review. And like good reviews, even ones that don't praise the movie, it makes me that much more interested in seeing the movie.

I imagine most of the cover-ups in a movie are intentional. If you don't notice them right away, you have to admit that the writers were fairly skillful just to get the story past those points and keep it coherent. I'd be interested in a review of the writing of a film, in which the various tricks and stopgaps were discussed—and not condemned for their subversiveness but rather analyzed for the techniques used and why they were necessary. Kind of a meta-criticism/writing class. I've never read a review like that.

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Sndrake, thank you so much for being part of Hatrack. As lots of people have already said, I've learned so much from you. I thought your review was fantastic and it's definitely made me want to see the film and insist that my A-level students who are studying applied ethics see it too. I am definitely going to direct them to your review and other writings.
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Wow - that was lovely and perfect. I hope it gets read. Thank you for writing it.
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Wow! Thanks everyone!

BTW, the link for the article just went to the front page of the site, along with a new article by editor Mary Johnson. If you liked my review, you'll want to read this as well:

Killing Us Kindly

(excerpt from middle of article)
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Full disclosure: even without its ending, I would not feel kindly toward Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby. It is hard for me to sit in a theater looking up at the man who continues to fight disabled people in his backyard along the Central Coast of California, teaming up with owners howling because people in wheelchairs are suing them when they find they still cannot get into their businesses.

In Eastwood's last directorial effort, Mystic River, the killer is a deaf kid, I'm told. Readers would no doubt think I'm stretching things to wonder what it is about ol' Clint and disability. But it is food for thought.

I don't like a man who continues to vow to get Congress to pass a law forbidding people to sue for access without first waiting another 90 days, even if he is a truly great movie actor and director. And forgive me for wondering how Eastwood's feelings about quadriplegics living to fight him over access might conceivably play into his directorial prowess in letting the public know how noble, how loving, how kind it is for a father figure to help a young quad end her life.



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Good news! My esteemed editor Mary Johnson fixed the "Frankie problem." [Smile]
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*brazen bump*

Update: Fixed a couple more typos. Mary Johnson and I are putting the finishing touches on a coauthored op-ed that we'll try to submit to a few papers until one bites - starting next Tuesday, so we can work in any necessary references to the Golden Globe Awards.

Then there's this event the Chicago Film Critics Association is having next week... There will probably be a bunch of people with disabilities with signs and flyers waiting for them when they arrive next week. No secret. We plan on a press release. (Near as I can tell, every critic in Chicago who wrote about the movie loved it)

One possible sign:

Chicago Movie Critics:
"Million Dollar Bigots"

[Smile]

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I just saw this movie on Sunday, and I thought I saw some problems with it, but it was still a very emotional and powerful movie for me. I wondered how a high end medical care facility could allow bed sores as bad as the ones in this film. I wondered why the alarms at the nursing station didn't go off when Maggie's vent was stopped. I wondered why Frankie didn't reconnect Maggie's vent after he left, but just not turn it back on. With it off, it definitely looks intentional. I wondered why Maggie didn't have counseling after her accident to help her with the emotions following her paralysis.

I am so glad i saw it before your review, though. Wow, I don't think I could possibly have enjoyed that movie if I saw it with the knowledge I have after reading your review. And the fact that it's probably going to be up for Academy awards makes me sad, too. I can understand some of the choices Eastwood made as a director, and why the characters made some of their choices, but all together it paints a very unfavorable view of the disabled that is merciless in its uncharitability.

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JNSB,

I am not sure I understand your take, being glad you saw the movie without the information.

To me, it's kinda like Eastwood had a joke at your expense - and the expense of a lot of other people. For example, the manner of killing shown would actually result in a pretty nasty death.

I also seriously wonder to what degree Eastwood's contentious history with the disability had to do with his choice of this as a movie project.

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Steve,

Thanks for the review.

You know...I worked in a nursing home for a summer back when I was thinking of going into medicine as a career. There were patients there who had a variety of disabilities -- the majority were elderly but there were a few patients who were much younger and needed constant care. Working the night shift, we rarely got to know any of the people, but there were a few who woke up needing something or whose linens needed changing during the night.

I'm curious about the bed sore thing. What I learned as an orderly in that facility (by no means what I would call a "great" or even "good" nursing home. But certainly "adequate" in that it was staffed appropriately and people didn't ignore buzzers or sleep through the night shift -- I worked nights). We had several people there with very limited mobility, but we did not have anyone with Cervical Spinal cord injury leading to paralysis, so I'm a little confused about the propensity to develop bed sores.

My understanding was that we needed to check all the incontintent patients 2x per night (an average of 4 hours between bed checks). Basically, we just changed the sheets on all the beds of anyone who was not catheterized or who had any history of incontinence. Since the sheets were going to be changed daily anyway, we did the 2nd change early in the morning for everyone. Some who had more severe incontinence might get changed more often or have absorbent pads on the bed that would get changed between sheet changings.

The risk of bed sores was, I was told, primarily one of lying for a period of time in a wet sheet.

I've also heard of pressure sores (equivalent of bed sores?) that can arise if someone lies immobilized for too long. We had special things like circulation pads (a water-filled or air-filled slim mattress cover that would inflate and deflate in a cycle by section to keep the pressure points from being "stable").

I know we would reposition some of the patients periodically too.

I never saw a single bed sore in this facility. (Hmm...maybe it had better care than I thought at the time.)

but then I heard that Christopher Reeve essentially died of sepsis from an open sore. He HAD to have had the best care possible, and yet he got a sore that became infected and died from it (if I have the story right).

So...now my big question -- are bed sores as easy to avoid as I was led to believe when I worked at the nursing home (this was in high school), or

are bed sores an inevitability for people with severely limited mobility, or

is there really no way to answer this?

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Well, my take from a purely emotional, live moment-by-moment Point of View, is that I paid $8 for the movie and wanted to enjoy it. When I saw it, I didn't agree with the choice Frankie or Maggie made, but it still moved me and seemed like a great, atypical Hollywood movie (no Hollywood happy ending - similar to Unforgiven). With your information beforehand, I would have gone in, been pretty pissed by the end of the movie, and felt crappy about giving the movie theaters my $8.

That said, I am glad I have the information now. I certainly don't think the movie should have been made that way, and I wonder how many directorial choices were made that sacrificed the realities of disabled living for the sake of making you feel the characters'(both Maggie's and Frankie's) plight. Was there a book that this was based on? Did anybody do any research for the movie?

I think the adrenaline choice was made because it was something a "cut man" would have in in his bag. Frankie certainly wouldn't have had access to pharmaceuticals - he wasn't a doctor. I dunno - is adrenaline very easy to get?

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Bob and JNSB,

I'll bump this thread from wherever it gets to on Thursday. Tomorrow night, a bunch of us are going to do some leafleting and sign-carrying at an event of the Chicago Film Critics Association. That means I have about 3000 things to do between now and then.

But we have a couple of columnists who have taken an interest in our take on the movie and what we'll be doing tomorrow, so it will be worth the stabbing pains in my extremities before they go numb.

There will be more people from the disability community writing about this - count on it. But the fact is that most people aren't even able to see the movie right now. Chicago is one of the few cities in the U.S. where it opened.

Imagine that. It's on an Oscar track and most people can't even see it right now.

I may also have managed to talk a major disability organization (not "fringe" one like the one I work with) to issue a statement about the movie over PRNewswire. Been doing a lot of this between fluff posts.

My fluff posts have been real stress-reducers the last couple of days. [Smile]

Later... til Thursday except for a fluffy post or two.

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I'm tired and the warmth in our apartment hasn't penetrated to the bone yet, so I'll get back to real discussion tomorrow, but I thought I'd just give you this latest:
National Spinal Cord Injury Association: Eastwood Continues Disability Vendetta with 'Million Dollar Baby'

Gotta go. Looks like we're on one of the local news shows in a few minutes. [Cool]

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"a brilliantly executed attack on life after spinal cord injury"

Nice way to start the review.

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Yeah, Dag. That's a nicely-written opening by our friends at NSCIA. (If you want to raise your blood pressure, you ought to read the review of the movie on "The Catholic Reporter." Very enthusiastic endorsement of the movie.)

Well, CLTV, which is owned by the Chicago Tribune, just gave the ending of the movie away to everybody. They treated us pretty well.

OK, I'm really going to go to bed now. You can run on stress, caffeine, and adrenaline (in a nonlethal dose) for just so long.

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"somewhat melodramatic nature of the ending"

WTF???

[Mad]

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(Sorry for the delay - yesterday was absolute chaos. Today's a little better, as far as having a breather to post here.)

Bob:

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but then I heard that Christopher Reeve essentially died of sepsis from an open sore. He HAD to have had the best care possible, and yet he got a sore that became infected and died from it (if I have the story right).

So...now my big question -- are bed sores as easy to avoid as I was led to believe when I worked at the nursing home (this was in high school), or

are bed sores an inevitability for people with severely limited mobility, or

is there really no way to answer this?

I am definitely not an authority on pressure sores. They generally take a lot of time to develop, I know - and I believe your summary of what it takes to avoid them is accurate. The thing is, over the years, one becomes more vulnerable at points that receive pressure regularly for prolonged periods.

Those of us who don't have paralysis are shifting all the time - we don't even think about it. One bit of mild discomfort and we shift positions. One thing paraplegics I know do is make a conscious effort to regularly shift themselves around in their chairs. But they have to think about since they aren't getting any sensation cues.

No one is sure what happened with Reeve. One public factor is known, but it doesn't explain everything. He didn't treat his body as carefully as many people with quadriplegia do. I read that the pressure sore in question originated through use of an exercise device. He probably insisted going out making appearances for the Foundation - against medical advice - when he should have been in bed and letting the thing heal.

I hope this makes some kind of sense. I have enough knowledge to be confident of the statements I made in my article. But the mechanisms and details are beyond my narrow realm of expertise.

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JNSB:

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That said, I am glad I have the information now. I certainly don't think the movie should have been made that way, and I wonder how many directorial choices were made that sacrificed the realities of disabled living for the sake of making you feel the characters'(both Maggie's and Frankie's) plight. Was there a book that this was based on? Did anybody do any research for the movie?

I think the adrenaline choice was made because it was something a "cut man" would have in in his bag. Frankie certainly wouldn't have had access to pharmaceuticals - he wasn't a doctor. I dunno - is adrenaline very easy to get?

Yeah, this was based on one or two short stories - which I haven't read. ("Rope Burns," now retitled "Million Dollar Baby" by F.X. Toole.) But I know two people who have. Turns out there are some interesting differences between the story version and the movie version. For one thing, the story is told from an "omniscient 3rd person perspectice" - no Morgan Freeman character. Mary Johnson, editor of the site my article is located, sent me this from the story:

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Frankie has a "fresh 1 oz bottle of adrenaline chloride solution
1:1000" in his refrigerator. He's been sitting in his apartment
drinking whiskey (Jameson's, I think) debating what to do.

He had an old syringe he'd used to inject procaine into crushed knuckles

He had used adrenaline "more than 100 times to stop blood from cut eyes"

"and he knew what else adrenaline chloride would do."

"There was no need to sterilize the needle"

he drew the entire bottle of adrenaline into the syringe

he put the old syringe into its case and put it into his windbreaker
pocket, making sure the needle was upright

he arrived in the parking lot at 1:50 a.m. and prayed he wouldn't be noticed

When he saw the night nurse moving to the end of the hall

He crept into the building and hid in a broom closet, leaving the
door open just a little bit

maggie's vent "... was on but she wasn't hooked to a monitor"

he expected maggie to be asleep but she wasn't

He whispers to her, she smiles then frowns as she hears the nurse pass

nurse calls out to maggie 'are you alone?'

Maggie says 'yes'

"Do you smell whiskey - funny, I thought I smelled it in the hall" says nurse

'no' says Maggie

nurse moves away (back to nursing station)

"i won't hurt you" clint says to maggie "first I'm going to put you
to sleep. Then I'll give you a shot."

'yes.' [Maggie says this, but the way it's written it's just a
separate paragraph. You know it's Maggie replying to Frankie.]

"Frankie stood behind her... firmly pressed his thumbs on both sides
of her neck, cutting off blood in cartoid....Maggie's eyes closed and
her mouth came open....oxygen from the ventilator escaped and became
part of the whirlwind inside Frankie...he stood pressing for 3
minutes... pried her mouth open..."

injected needle under tongue

even if there was an autopsy the injection left only a tiny prick and
would never be noticed

"the adrenaline -- all 30 milliliters of it -- would dissipate ..."

"He checked her pulse. It raced faster than a speed bag. Then the
stoke hit her and her face contorted, one eye sagging open...."

Frankie "closed the eye... made sure her pulse was still with his thumb"

Note - the writer closes up a couple of the plot holes. And the manner of killing would actually be pretty painless, since Maggie wouldn't get the adrenaline until she was made unconscious. But the scene as written would have been pretty freakin' graphic - the way it's rewritten puts more physical distance between Eastwood's character and the physical acts required to end Maggie's life.
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I hate to do this before it's actually happened, but it looks like I'll have at least two article links to post on Sunday. One from the Chicago Tribune and the other from the London Sunday Telegraph.

In the meantime, though, Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn talked about us on his blog Monday and some more on Tuesday, but there's no direct link to that, so you'll have to scroll up for it.

Been having a pretty pleasant exchange with Zorn the past couple of days. I think it surprises columnists and journalists when you don't expect them to agree with you as long as they treat your issue with respect.

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Well, for what it's worth, looks like the story is catching on. (although the trend, apparently originating with "The Age" in Australia, is starting to drop mention of NDY and any mention of Eastwood's political advocacy regarding the Americans with Disabiilities Act.

There is at least one major article coming in Chicago. Hopefully there will be another one in a few weeks from a nationally syndicated columnist.

For anyone checking this thread, here are today's best stories:

London Telegraph (UK): Disabled groups condemn Eastwood euthanasia film (registration required)

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By James Langton in New York
(Filed: 23/01/2005)

Clint Eastwood, the Hollywood screen legend, is under fire from
disabled groups who say that his latest award-winning film is thinly
disguised propaganda for euthanasia.

Eastwood is the director of Million Dollar Baby, a drama about
a female boxer described as "Rocky in a sports bra," in which
he also stars alongside Hilary Swank and Morgan Freeman.

The film went on general release in the United States earlier this
month and critics identified it as a leading contender for an
Academy Award after Swank and Eastwood won Golden Globes
for Best Actress and Best Director.

Ostensibly, the film is about a young boxer who turns to an elderly
trainer to take her to the top. Yet audiences have been astonished
by an unheralded plot twist in which a leading character becomes
crippled in a serious accident and begs to be put to death.

The film's detractors accuse Warner Brothers, the studio that made
it, of deliberately concealing the grim ending. A number of religious
right-to-life groups are also upset because Eastwood's character is
a devout Roman Catholic who attends mass every day.

Debbie Schlussel, a conservative television and radio commentator,
described the film as a "million dollar lie" and a "cover story to
suck moviegoers in for a nefarious message." She said that the film
supported "killing the handicapped, literally putting their lights out".

The National Spinal Cord Injury Association, one of America's most
respected organisations for disabled people, accused Eastwood
of a "disability vendetta," describing the last scene of the film as
a "brilliantly executed attack on life after a spinal cord injury."

Eastwood clashed previously with the charity when he spent
$600,000 (£319,500) fighting a legal order to make his Mission
Ranch Hotel in Carmel, California, accessible to handicapped people.

Marcia Roth, the association's chief executive, said the star was
using the "power of fame and film to perpetuate his view that the
lives of people with disabilities are not worth living."

Last week, film critics attending their annual awards ceremony
in Chicago were confronted by protesters from Not Dead Yet,
an organisation that fights assisted suicide laws. The group was
angry about the glowing reviews Million Dollar Baby had received,
saying that critics were ignoring the film's underlying message
which, it said, "promotes the killing of disabled people as the
solution to the `problem' of disability."

Steven Drake, a researcher for Not Dead Yet, said that the film
"plays out killing as a romantic fantasy and gives emotional life
to the `better dead than disabled' mindset." The film's release
comes as the right-to-die debate is hotting up in the US. A new
law being considered in California – Eastwood's home state – would
allow doctor-assisted suicide.

President Bush has made clear his opposition to euthanasia. Last
year, his brother, Jeb, the governor of Florida, intervened in the case
of Terry Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman whose parents are
fighting her husband's wish to take her off life support.

Marketing for the film in the US has concentrated exclusively on its
boxing theme and Eastwood's initial reluctance to take on Swank's
character, telling her "tough ain't enough". Few reviews even hint
that the film's climax is an assisted suicide.

Another conservative commentator and film critic, Michael Medved,
said: "Warner Brothers never tells you the truth about a key plot
twist that turns this pedestrian boxing movie into an insufferable
manipulative right-to-die movie."

While promoting the film, Eastwood has avoided talking about
the issue of euthanasia. In his only comment so far, he told an
interviewer: "How people feel about that is up to them. I'm not
a pro-euthanasia person and this is a story about a giant dilemma
and how one person had to face that."

Eastwood, who has been married twice and has eight children
by five women, rarely talks about his own religious beliefs in public.

Unexpected support for the film has come from the Catholic News
Service, which reviews all new films from the point of view of the
Catholic Church in America.

The reviewer, David DiCerto, said: "The movie's morally problematic
end may leave many Catholic viewers feeling emotionally against
the ropes."

But he added: "The film is not a polemic in favour of assisted
suicide," and, "Given the dire circumstances, our sympathies
and humane inclinations may argue in favour of such misguided
compassion."


Chicago Tribune: Not Making Their Day

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Not making their day
Advocates for disabled upset by Eastwood movie's ending

Published January 23, 2005

LOOP -- If you haven't yet seen Clint Eastwood's new movie,
"Million Dollar Baby," you may want to stop reading here. If you
read on, you will find out about the surprise ending, so fair warning.

The movie has gotten rave reviews, but it has enraged some
advocates for the disabled. A group called Not Dead Yet was so
angered by the film's ending that it organized a demonstration last
week outside the Union League Club, where the Chicago Film
Critics Association was meeting to honor director Robert Altman.

They handed out leaflets expressing their dissatisfaction with the
surprise ending, which many critics have praised. They object to
the final scenes in which Hilary Swank's character, a female boxer
who has become a quadriplegic, is euthanized by Eastwood's
character, her trainer. He disconnects her breathing tube, telling
her that it will be a peaceful death.

"That's going to make her gasp like a fish on the shore," said
Stephen Drake of Not Dead Yet, which opposes assisted suicide.

Another complaint, Drake said, is the lack of consideration for
unsuspecting disabled people who might see the movie. "That's
some nice surprise they set you up for."

The National Spinal Cord Injury Association sent out a press
release last week saying that Eastwood's message was "better
dead than disabled," and calling the movie "a brilliantly executed
attack on people with spinal cord injury."

Right now, if you go to google news and use "Eastwood" as your search term, around 7 of the first 11 stories that pop up are about the controversy.
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I already read the London article. Unfortunately, the news articles are mostly quoting summaries and conclusions from the activists. Par for the course, of course.

Keep up the good work.

And I'm getting more and more annoyed with the Catholic reviews.

Dagonee

[ January 23, 2005, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

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Wow, thanks for keeping us updated on this!! Great job!! I'm interested to see how it turns out...
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It's interesting that the two newspapers spelled sndrake's first name differently, one with "ph" and one with a "v". Journalists are usually fiercely told to get spelling of names right, and I would have figured that a commonly varied spelling name like that would prompt them to look or ask for the correct spelling.
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This thread has certainly worked on me. I got my EW last Saturday with this movie as the cover story and was annoyed the entire laudatory article.
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Dag, Narnia, LadyJane, et al,

thanks!

JNSB:

One of the consequences of having a name like "Stephen" is that it will inevitably be spelled in a number of ways. Makes tracking down mention of things I've written or done on the net more work than it should be.

Latest news: I'll be on a very popular Chicago Radio show (so I hear), "Mancow," which has been described to me as kind of a "Howard Stern Lite."

(One of those things I'd really rather not do if I didn't have to.)

For those in the Chicago area, it'll be on around 7:10 am on Wednesday Jan. 26. I'll try to find the station specifics later or if its syndicated anywhere outside of Chicago.

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Oh my, I hate Mancow but I'll listen cause its you [Wink] That is if I'm awake. I'll tell my Steve to listen and he can fill me in if worse comes to worse.

I have absolutely no desire to see the movie. And hearing it advertised everywhere is ticking me off too.

AJ

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When we went to see The Phantom of the Opera this weekend, there was a trailer/preview for Million Dollar Baby. A friend with us said it looked like it would be good (the trailer never hints that she gets in an accident or is injured).

I'm going to send him a link to your article so they know to NOT go see it, and why.

Farmgirl

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sndrake- there's just one thing in your atricle that confused me; is assisted suicide legal in the U.S.?

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All Maggie has to do to die is to ask. No kidding. Court rulings in the 90s say that a person who uses a vent can request the vent be shut off, and the staff will give them a sedative and shut the vent off just as they start to lose consciousness.
I have long been under the impression that it wasn't, but I'm assuming in this case (the case in the movie) it is? [Confused]
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Teshi, that's not considered assisted suicide (assuming the sedative wouldn't kill the person if they stayed on the vent).

It's the right to refuse continuing medical treatment. Small but crucial difference legally. I'm not sure how much moral distinction there is.

Dagonee

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Oh! Thank you, Dag. Yes, I understand [Smile] .
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quote:
I have long been under the impression that it wasn't, but I'm assuming in this case (the case in the movie) it is?
Teshi,

I'm not sure what you are asking about?

Are you thinking that having a ventilator shut off is "assisted suicide?" Legally, it's not.
The ventilator is a treatment you have the right to refuse. And, as I said, things will be arranged so that you'll be unconscious when actual suffocation occurs.

Apparently in the movie, they're pretending that Maggie doesn't have that right. And so Frankie, after about a whole day of soul-searching, sneaks in and kills her - which definitely isn't legal, even in the movie. One of the few things in this part of the movie that has a connection to reality.

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Thank you- yes, Dag explained it. I'm very uneducated about such things so I was confused, but now I understand.
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[Big Grin] That's so awesome, sndrake! I mean, the movie itself is not a good thing, but the fact that you are getting your opinion out there and making a difference, that is GREAT. I'm so proud and happy.

[Group Hug] for both you and Diane.

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I mentioned earlier that the Australian newspaper "The Age" edited out NDY and other stuff. What they did was mild compared to a really malicious piece that came out over the weekend in "USA Today.":

'Million Dollar' Mystery by Susan Wloszczyna

The movie is an attempt at a discussion of the "spoilage" surrounding "MLB." But pay careful attention in who she is willing to name and who she isn't. I've italicized a certain sentence in order to be helpful. [Wink]

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However, there exists even a more seductive incentive to spoil Baby. Unlike The Usual Suspects or Fight Club, where the narrative jolts were merely an extension of the plot, Baby is being used by political pundits and special-interest groups with causes to advance. One organization, whose name would be a form of a spoiler itself, issued a statement last week decrying what they see as a "vendetta" executed by Eastwood and his film.

In an attack on her Web site (debbieschlussel.com), conservative commentator Debbie Schlussel at least offers readers the courtesy of a spoiler alert after proclaiming Baby as "Hollywood's best political propaganda of the year, more effective than Fahrenheit 9/11" and "a left-wing diatribe." She then pummels its premise as well as the understated ad campaign, spilling every pertinent detail in the bargain.

Fellow conservative and culture critic Michael Medved has verbally spanked Baby and its makers via multiple media forums, from his nationally syndicated Seattle-based radio show to such TV outlets as the Fox News Channel, MSNBC and The 700 Club on CBN.

"The movie is wildly overrated in part because of an enduring affection for Eastwood, which I share," says Medved, a former host of PBS' Sneak Previews. But, "I hated this movie, and hate is not too strong a word. It's hackneyed and clumsy, like a flatfooted fighter who would be knocked out in the first four seconds of the first round."

Get that? She's real free with naming names when it comes to conservatives. Then she suddenly gets coy when it comes to the National Spinal Cord Injury Association, which she cites. She won't even go so far as to call it a "disability advocacy organization," which wouldn't have given away any more than naming the parade of conservatives.

I'm usually reluctant to suspect a writer of blatant political bias, but I'll make an exception in this case.

Disability groups don't fit the story she wants to tell.

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Wow! We've been written about on websites on both ends of the political spectrum - in a positive way.

From the Left:

Dissident Voice: Piss on Pity: Clint Eastwood's "Million Dollar" Snuff Film

And from the Right:

Worldnetdaily: Film's euthanasia plot angers disabled groups

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If there was a dissenting opinion in this thread I didn't spot it, so I just thought I would mention that I quite liked the movie. I had no problems with Frankie doing what Maggie begged for. And, to be totally honest with you, reading this thread has done nothing to lessen my enjoyment of the movie.

She wanted to die. Why assume that she wasn't presented with options regarding the life she could continue to live despite her disabilities? On the contrary, I would imagine that since she was in a rehabilitation facility, one would have to assume that she was given plenty of options.

I haven't read much about Eastwood. Has he done anything in the past to indicate that he's trying to push some sort of agenda? He played a character who struggled with a lot of moral indecision when it came to making the choice of whether or not he should end Maggie's life. I'll admit that there were some annoying inconsistencies (ie. lack of security at the rehab facility and the method by which Frankie killed Maggie), but inconsistencies do not an immoral movie make.

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Fitz,

I've never said the movie was "immoral" - I don't mind defending myself, but at least stick with what I said.

You indicate that, in your imagination, you've bent over backwards to imagine that Maggie must have had the best of everything. That's just Eastwood and the scriptwriter playing on your ignorance - people with the best of care don't develop pressure sores and infections so severe that amputation is required within a few months of that kind of injury. (the location of the sore alone was absurd.)

But it was all that misinformation was required to make sure the audience would see what Clint did as the only right course of action.

You say he "struggled a lot"? What, it took him a whole day to make up his mind?

[Roll Eyes]

About 90 minutes until I get the call from Mancow.

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How did the Mancow interview go?
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I had some thoughts on this, not having seen the film of course but reading the review, especially the part about the dad loving the dog enough to put it down. It was important for this character to be so enmeshed with someone that they would feel compelled to do something they hated for her. I think that's pretty unhealthy, myself. The question is whether it is portrayed as heroic or disturbing. The use of the adrenaline persuades me it is the former.
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quote:
"Well, I'd take you to my resort, but I haven't made any of the
guest rooms accessible yet as a matter of principle. Maybe I could
order us some take-out."

The cynic in me says that maybe the most accurate label we can put on
this movie is "Clint Eastwood's Revenge." Hey, if we kill 'em, we
don't have to make our resorts accessible!

This movie is a corny, melodramatic assault on people with
disabilities. It plays out killing as a romantic fantasy and gives
emotional life to the "better dead than disabled" mindset lurking in
the heart of the typical (read: nondisabled) audience member.

quote:
I've never said the movie was "immoral" - I don't mind
defending myself, but at least stick with what I said.

Well you're right, you never actually said that the movie was immoral, and yet, I feel that the implication is obvious. I understand that you're not necessarily calling us typicals immoral, but Clint must be for perpetuating a mindset, right? It's obvious what you believe, so why deny it?

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You indicate that, in your imagination, you've bent over
backwards to imagine that Maggie must have had the best of everything.
That's just Eastwood and the scriptwriter playing on your
ignorance

Did I indicate that? I don't think so. I merely said that I assumed she would have been given options, as would anyone in her situation. After all, Frankie loved Maggie and wanted her to live.

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All she ever wanted to be was a boxer and she got that. She had fans; she was on the covers of magazines. She doesn't want to get to the point where she can't even remember living her dream any more.

As I listened to this drivel, I wondered how Muhammed Ali, whose speech and ability to move are significantly limited by Parkinson's, might react to this.

So basically anyone who decides not to live with paralysis is full of shit? Is it drivel because it's one of Clint Eastwood's characters who wants to die? Or do you feel contempt for any disabled person who gives up? Muhammed Ali chose to live on, while some people don't. Who are you to judge the ones who don't?

But you would rather have us all believe that disabled people should always struggle on, and that any other choice is cowardice. Seems to me like Clint isn't the only one pusing an agenda.

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You say he "struggled a lot"? What, it took him a whole day to make up his mind?
Maggie bit her tongue in an attempt to kill herself. She had a wad of towels stuck in her mouth so that she wouldn't try it again. I wouldn't sit around for a week contemplating the ethics of the situation if one of my loved ones was in that situation. Of course you'll argue that this is just Eastwood stacking the deck to get our emotions primed for the ending. You see it as Eastwood pushing an agenda, but I see it as a story about a conflicted man dealing with a difficult decision.

[ January 26, 2005, 10:04 AM: Message edited by: Fitz ]

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