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Perhaps. But that doesn't stop the fact that it's still a work of genius that I fully enjoyed.
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I watched it, I enjoyed it. The music is great minus the lyrical, I thought the singing could have been better. However it is really short, and if you don't like Tim Burton's style in movies, then you probably won't like it.
But I do like the creative and almost always disturbing imagery he makes.
However, after watching it, it feels... empty. I don't feel like I got much out of it, but I still enjoyed it.
It really depends on the person whether you will like it or not.
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At first I didn't like Nightmare Before Christmas, but it grew on me. I'll see this some time soon, heck maybe even tonight.
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I loved nightmare before christmas. In general I'm a pretty big Burton fan. But this one just doesn't go anywhere.
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It's my birthday today, and I'm about to go see this movie with my friends. I wish I hadn't looked at this thread, 'cause now I'm scared it's going to be crap. Posts: 1225 | Registered: Feb 2002
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"I don't want to see it. It seems like Nightmare Before Christmas-- but even stupider."
It's my favourite movie, ever! I'm going to see Corpse Bride tomorrow, I hope I'll like it. Didn't Danny do the music to this one as well? How in the world could it be bad!?
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With Tim Burton films, a great deal of the magic is in the Worlds he creates, as well as the characters.
His stories, his most basic stories, are not new. But it's the presentation of those stories, and the twists he makes that make them enjoyable experiences.
Corpse Bride is small-serving Burton. Perhaps even soft-serve.
It was never a film designed for deep deconstruction, or for highbrow analysis, it was, for all intents and purposes, the visualization of a Dream.
If it appears to be no more than a Fairy Tale, perhaps that is because is that is exactly what it aims to be - a fairy tale.
It's the tale of a Sleeping Beauty who awaits her Prince. The Prince does wake her in a moment of passionate Love - but, unbenownst to the beauty, the love was not directed towards her.
She has created her own rules to her Fairy Tale awakening, and when she is awakened, she does all she can do to make him fit the role she has established for him. She tries to ruin his life (in some cases literally) in order to make him be for her what she needs for herself.
Even while he continually tells her that he is not the one for her, her friends goad her on telling her that he would certainly want her if "He only knew the you that we know."
Can you make a man be someone, to love someone, that they simply aren't meant to love?
Love is a precious commodity in this world. The parents of one individual claims that the idea of love in a marriage is preposterous, and that they themselves have never even dreamed of having love for their spouse.
This, here, is what the Corpse Bride is trying to have for herself - a marriage that may be perfect in her mind, but without Love. A marriage in name only - an eternally binding connection...without a connection.
The Corpse Bride is a traditional Love Story told in an untraditional way.
It asks the questions, What do you want, and why do you want it? And is what you want, really what is best for you, and all those involved?
The words of Paul were probably never on the mind of the creaters of the film, but his summation of what consists of the purest Love stands as a fitting theme for the film.
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."Posts: 2689 | Registered: Apr 2000
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quote:His stories, his most basic stories, are not new. But it's the presentation of those stories, and the twists he makes that make them enjoyable experiences.
I disagree. I'd never heard of a story of how a creature with scissors for hands was the real cause of snow. Or that Holidays come from specialized towns.
I think Burton's stories are extremely innovative.
But when he's at his best is when he's telling stories about stories, or legends. Even Batman has to do with how Batman's reputation is larger than life. It's about story telling. Likewise "Big Fish" was a spectacular story.
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Edward Scissorhands is Pinnochio - the Creation who wants to be as he sees his Creator, and the rest of the world: Normal. It's also a simple story of isolation, one who is different is ridulued by those who believe that they, themselves, are not different. The core themes are there - the particular story elements he calls up and entwines in order to present his version of the Story, however, are extremely innovative.
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There weren't enough songs. The songs that were there.. well, it was kinda hard to understand the lyrics sometimes. It was not Elfman's best work.
That being said I still *enjoyed* it. It will never be the movie Nightmare was so don't even try to compare it. Don't let your expectations get too high. Just go in and enjoy spending 90 or so minutes of your time.
As a side note, I think the animators went back and watched Edward Scissorhands becuase Depp's character made Edward faces quite a bit.
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I liked it better than Nightmare. Which wouldn't take much since I hated Nightmare. That said, I found the movie very clever and amusing and definitely enjoyed it
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Awesome presentation! I'm also a fan of Tim Burton, and noticed that all his work, even though seemingly childish, can be quite deep and layered.
I like how the world of the living was monochrome grey, and the world of the dead was vibrant, fun, and multicolored. Also, for me the ending was unpredictable, and those are the kind of movies I enjoy best.
I also recently began appreciating the genre of "dark comedies" which is what this movie is. I think people who don't like (or appreciate) dark comedies will miss the humor and the point very easily.
As for the songs, I agree with what most people are saying, they weren't Elfman's best. But the song where Emily is singing about being "heart broken" even when she's dead and probably shouldn't feel any pain, I thought was the best song.
"Why would you want to go up [to the world of the living] there when people are dying to come down here?"
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I thought the movie was wonderful. The visuals alone made it worthwhile for me, but I liked everything else, too.
I was worried from the reviews I had been reading that it wouldn't be emotionally engaging, but I'm enough of a sap that I would have been crying at the end had Olivia's six-year-old son not been telling his father about how he's going to watch it every day when it comes out on video. Posts: 3801 | Registered: Jan 2000
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I also enjoyed the movie. Te detail in the animation left Nightmare in the dust. The story was thin, maybe, but I didn't care, nor did Ron. Liam loved, LOVED it, but Robert just said he didn't like it because it was too (loud? long? Not sure. My hearing may have been hurt by the volume ) "and everybody in it was ugly." Poor Robert, determined to be the black sheep. Or, in the case of OUR family, the Mr. Merry Sunshine. Posts: 9293 | Registered: Aug 2000
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I kinda liked that it wasn't as over-the-top as Nightmare. Like Edward Scissorhands, there was something very sincere about the characters. I felt like a got to know Victoria and her motivations more than Nightmare's Sally, despite her short-time on screen.
The first Wedding song really disappointed me, but all that turned around with Remains of the Day. That song is STILL stuck in my head. The dead version of the Wedding song was much better. I think Nightmare had its shining moments musically (What's This and the final Jack/Sally song) but alot of the songs in the middle were a muddy mess with awkward timings and rhymes. The tighter musical editting for Corpse Bride was an improvement.
I adored the two piano scenes. Gorgeous. I'll have to buy the soundtrack immediately.
I agreed with some of the reviewers calling it too short. It never dragged, which I give it high praise for, but I would have liked to see more of the Land of the Dead and about half way through it really started to rush. But it did leave me wanting more so I'll no doubt go to see it again next weekend.
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I liked it! Hooray! I loved Danny's music and score as well, especially the song he sang as Bo Jangles the skeleton guy.
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I loved the beginning...the ending wasn't quite as fun. Maybe I'm missing something but it seemed predictable and a little silly. Maybe if they explained more of the cosmology and why [spoiler] the Corpse Bride ascended at the end.
I thought it interesting how the mortal world was all gothic and dark, and the underworld was full of colour.
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The ascend confused me, too, Tel. Maybe all the beings in the world of the dead have "unfinished business." At least that was the explanation for ghosts roaming the earth that I understood from the movie "Casper." [Spoiler] Emily said to Victor "You kept your promise, and set me free." I wonder if after all the dead beings reunited with their family members and resolved all their unfinished issues if they were "set free" as well.
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I haven't seen it, but as for Johnny Depp's character having a lot of Edward Scissorhands expressions...sometimes, they film the actors as they're recording the voices, and then they model the animations after the actors' expressions.
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