FacebookTwitter
Hatrack River Forum   
my profile login | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Hatrack River Forum » Active Forums » Books, Films, Food and Culture » Computers and grammar.

   
Author Topic: Computers and grammar.
SmoG
Member
Member # 7778

 - posted      Profile for SmoG   Email SmoG         Edit/Delete Post 
Is the plural form of "mouse," as in, the device with which I interface with my computer, "mouses?" Because this is my position in an argument with a coworker. He believes it is "mice," like the animal. I just hope I'm not making a fool of myself.
Posts: 31 | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Joldo
Member
Member # 6991

 - posted      Profile for Joldo   Email Joldo         Edit/Delete Post 
Mouses.
Posts: 1735 | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jon Boy
Member
Member # 4284

 - posted      Profile for Jon Boy           Edit/Delete Post 
Merriam-Webster says mice. American Heritage says mice or mouses. Personally, I've never heard anyone say "mouses."
Posts: 9945 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
advice for robots
Member
Member # 2544

 - posted      Profile for advice for robots           Edit/Delete Post 
Mouse devices?

Although I would say "mice" personally. It doesn't come up very often, thankfully.

Posts: 5957 | Registered: Oct 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Raia
Member
Member # 4700

 - posted      Profile for Raia   Email Raia         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm not sure, I've only ever had one... [Wink]
Posts: 7877 | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
advice for robots
Member
Member # 2544

 - posted      Profile for advice for robots           Edit/Delete Post 
I wonder if they'll ever invent a game where you use two mice, on in each hand.
Posts: 5957 | Registered: Oct 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
DavidR
Member
Member # 7473

 - posted      Profile for DavidR   Email DavidR         Edit/Delete Post 
According to this terminology page

quote:
mouse - A pointing device. A mouse is cupped in the hand and rolled on a flat surface. Mice control the on - screen cursor and enable you to execute software commands quickly by clicking a built - in button. Other pointing devices include trackballs and touch - sensitive pads.

See trackball.

I don't know that this is exactly authoratative, but there were only 5 hits when I searched google for 'computer teminology mouse plural'.
Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
aspectre
Member
Member # 2222

 - posted      Profile for aspectre           Edit/Delete Post 
The correct term is meeses, as in "I hate meeses to pieces."
Posts: 8501 | Registered: Jul 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jonathan Howard
Member
Member # 6934

 - posted      Profile for Jonathan Howard   Email Jonathan Howard         Edit/Delete Post 
I call them mice. The hell with Webster, the Howard lexicon rules (my father's).

Now, seriously, I think that since it's named after a rodent, it should be pluralised the same way - as "mice".

Posts: 2978 | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jonathan Howard
Member
Member # 6934

 - posted      Profile for Jonathan Howard   Email Jonathan Howard         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
The correct term is meeses, as in "I hate meeses to pieces."
ONLY if you're a cat.
Posts: 2978 | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
King of Men
Member
Member # 6684

 - posted      Profile for King of Men   Email King of Men         Edit/Delete Post 
Official Party doctrine on this matter is not yet formulated; it is one of the major points for debate in the upcoming 25th Grammar Communist Party Congress. Stay tuned for more exciting debates, comrades!
Posts: 10645 | Registered: Jul 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tstorm
Member
Member # 1871

 - posted      Profile for Tstorm   Email Tstorm         Edit/Delete Post 
Definitely MICE. What if the pointing device was called a "goose"? Would that mean the plural was "gooses"? How stupid would that be? I don't think you have to be a grammar major to figure this one out, folks.
Posts: 1813 | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
DavidR
Member
Member # 7473

 - posted      Profile for DavidR   Email DavidR         Edit/Delete Post 
I agree that mice is the correct plural form. That is the plural form that I have always used and always heard other people use. However, having worked for the last 7 years in an industry (publishing) which seems to decide everything by refering to style guides or other similar "official repositories of the right way to do things," I thought that looking it up might be a good idea. Every so often I discover that the hard and fast rule that I have always followed was considered wrong. There were only six hits on my search on google, and they either confirmed or didn't contradict my experience with the plural form of mouse being mice.
Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tstorm
Member
Member # 1871

 - posted      Profile for Tstorm   Email Tstorm         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I thought that looking it up might be a good idea. Every so often I discover that the hard and fast rule that I have always followed was considered wrong.
Understood. I automatically default to grammar rules from my elementary and middle school years. [Smile]
Posts: 1813 | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jon Boy
Member
Member # 4284

 - posted      Profile for Jon Boy           Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I call them mice. The hell with Webster, the Howard lexicon rules (my father's).
Uh, you realize that Merriam-Webster calls them mice, too, right? Just checking.
Posts: 9945 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Goody Scrivener
Member
Member # 6742

 - posted      Profile for Goody Scrivener   Email Goody Scrivener         Edit/Delete Post 
gooses, geeses, i want a goose that lays golden eggs for Easter...

oops wrong thread LOL

Posts: 4515 | Registered: Jul 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jonathan Howard
Member
Member # 6934

 - posted      Profile for Jonathan Howard   Email Jonathan Howard         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Uh, you realize that Merriam-Webster calls them mice, too, right?
Sorry, the hell with American Heritage. I'm simply pissed off at Webster for the change of spelling. They should've gone the Mark Twain way: "Hottentottentatentantenpantermürderattentäter" (sp?)
Posts: 2978 | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
quidscribis
Member
Member # 5124

 - posted      Profile for quidscribis   Email quidscribis         Edit/Delete Post 
I still like meese. Not meeses, cuz that's just obviously wrong and painful to look at. But meese, now there's a certain elegance to it. [ROFL]
Posts: 8355 | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
ketchupqueen
Member
Member # 6877

 - posted      Profile for ketchupqueen   Email ketchupqueen         Edit/Delete Post 
I say "meeses". Just because it's so funny to say.
Posts: 21182 | Registered: Sep 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Primal Curve
Member
Member # 3587

 - posted      Profile for Primal Curve           Edit/Delete Post 
To my knowledge, the official plural form is "Mouse Systems." Not that anyone cares. You can call them mice, I do.
Posts: 4753 | Registered: May 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
DavidR
Member
Member # 7473

 - posted      Profile for DavidR   Email DavidR         Edit/Delete Post 
I entered 'mouse systems' into google and got 13,800,000 hits. Perusing the first page of links, most are talking about a company called Mouse Systems or their products. The others still seem to use the term mice for the plural of mouse. Of course I didn't have time to check all thirteen million eight hundred thousand sites, but the first page or two are usually representative enough for a quick search. I personally had never heard the term "Mouse Systems" until the post about it in this thread and I have been using computers either personally or professionally since 1982. Six of those years were in the Marines where one would expect to hear such terms used with narry a snicker, and yet I never heard it.
Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Orson Scott Card
Administrator
Member # 209

 - posted      Profile for Orson Scott Card           Edit/Delete Post 
Mice is the plural.

The word "mouses" exists, but its a verb. Once we had computer mice, then we got the verb:

"I was just mousing around on the screen" probably began partly as an analogy to "messing around."

"Just mouse your way through the menues."

"He never types anything, he just mouses. If he can't click it, he skips it."

Posts: 2005 | Registered: Jul 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jon Boy
Member
Member # 4284

 - posted      Profile for Jon Boy           Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Sorry, the hell with American Heritage.
Amen to that. But what do you mean by Webster changing the spelling?
Posts: 9945 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dan_raven
Member
Member # 3383

 - posted      Profile for Dan_raven   Email Dan_raven         Edit/Delete Post 
The plural of Mouse is Moose.

Hence Papa Moose is made up of a bunch of computer pointing devices.

Posts: 11895 | Registered: Apr 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Morbo
Member
Member # 5309

 - posted      Profile for Morbo   Email Morbo         Edit/Delete Post 
So Pop is a mouse stampede that achieved sentience?
Posts: 6316 | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
DavidR
Member
Member # 7473

 - posted      Profile for DavidR   Email DavidR         Edit/Delete Post 
The plural of Moose is Moose. Therefore Papa Moose could be a single Moose or a herd of Moose which somehow attained sentience. [Big Grin]

In any case I thnk the Scott nailed the plural of mouse in his post.

Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Goody Scrivener
Member
Member # 6742

 - posted      Profile for Goody Scrivener   Email Goody Scrivener         Edit/Delete Post 
Attained sentience AND spawned itself!!
Posts: 4515 | Registered: Jul 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
SmoG
Member
Member # 7778

 - posted      Profile for SmoG   Email SmoG         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I found this to be interesting.

especially this part
quote:
However, the plural of this device should be determined by common usage. If this is the case then it would appear that both mice and mouses are acceptable

Posts: 31 | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

   Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Hatrack River Home Page

Copyright © 2008 Hatrack River Enterprises Inc. All rights reserved.
Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited.


Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2