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Yes, "Toy Story" was Pixar's first full length. That is very very wrong.
So, there's a new Pixar-like company now working for them? Disney now have their own computer animation branch?
I had high hopes for Valiant because of their consistent success with their other computer animated films. I've yet to see Valiant. Thanks for the warning! Without Pixar it's truely not the same, then.
I never heard much about Chicken Run. I saw a preview for a movie that looked like the same animators "Wallace and Gromit." Maybe that one will be good, too.
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Disney is still producing it's own in-house 3D animated films, the next one is "Chicken Little", which some of my mentors are working on. However, Disney is also a distribution company, and they've been distributing 3D animations from other production companies, like Pixar and now Vanguard.
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They still might get back together with Pixar. It remains to be seen how much warmth will be left between the two companies once Eisner is gone, but Pixar has expressed an interest in restarting negotiations once Eisner is out the door.
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There were a number of Wallace and Gromit films before Chicken Run. Aardman Animation has also done a number of commercials including the Chevron Cars. One of my favorites, although I can't remember the name is a series of shorts that were done using interviews of various occupants in government housing and then combining that audio with claymation of animals in a zoo. Hilarious, especially if you are used to apartments.
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I liked Chicken Run. I saw it probably 150 times or so. I happened to work at a theater at the time it premiered.
This movie however, rubs me the wrong way. I have yet to figure out why.
I'll see it because this is the field I would like to work in. Almost like homework.
I was skeptical of many of Pixar's later movies before they came out and was proven wrong on all counts. This is a different feeling though, I can't quite place it. It seems as though they are trying to cash in on the 3D-kid movie market, and not really trying to do anything with heart in it.
Edit: I can't figure out how to remove Chicken Run, so remember kids, I'm not comparing it to Valiant, I just wanted to say that I saw it a million times.
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Please don't compare this movie to Chicken Run. Somebody might get the idea that Aardman animation had something to do with it, and that would be sad.
Aaardman's next film is a Wallace and Gromit feature-length movie... Curse of the were-rabbit?
It looks good to me.
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Considering that I used the comparson to show how _good_ I thought the Aardman film was compared to this, I don't think that's going to be a problem.
In fact, I don't think anyone mentioned Valiant being done by Aardman.
Anyway, Valiant was done by Vanguard Studios, in association with Disney.
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Geez, Puffy, I didn't mean to hack you off, or anything. I was just clarifying.
Lots of people make comparisons between animated films by the same company. I know you were not doing that, but it wasn't expressly stated, so I just wanted to clarify. I meant no offense.
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Okay, I guess I should have put an emoticon or something there...because I wasn't "hacked off". I was pointing out that I didn't feel such confusion would be a problem. Because I didn't say they were by the same company.
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quote: One of my favorites, although I can't remember the name is a series of shorts that were done using interviews of various occupants in government housing and then combining that audio with claymation of animals in a zoo. Hilarious, especially if you are used to apartments.
It's called Creature Comforts. As I recall, it won an Academy Award. Although it was only a shadow of what was to come, it was still wonderful.
I own basically everything that Aardman has ever produced (not that there's much) and am a huge fan. Can't wait for the Wallace and Gromit movie. If it's anywhere near as good as the short films, I'll be buying that one too.
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You didn't say they weren't. I never said you were wrong, I just said I thought it was ambiguous, or could be to an uncareful reader.
I don't assume two film being compared are being done by the same company unless I'm told in the comparison that they're by the same company.
What's ambiguous here?
And smilies don't make snide comments seem less snide.
Okay...I told I wasn't upset, but you're choosing to disbelieve me.
I questioned your conclusion. Not you yourself, but the conclusion you drew.
Assuming I meant to personally insult because I did so...well all I can say is that this is a problem with writing online. I didn't intend the remark as snide. I intended it to show I didn't understand why you felt my post was unclear.
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I NEVER drew a CONCLUSION at all. I said "Someone might get the impression..."
I was not criticizing you. AT ALL. I even said "Please." I meant it in a light way.
You were a bit defensive. I admit I was, too, but you are totally and continually choosing to mis read my intentions. I'm sorry.
I said that I thought it could be ambiguous, sunce people were continuing to compare the two down the thread. I just wanted to point out that Aardman didn't have anything to do with it, since it hadn't been explicitly mentioned.
And, my innitial comment was not even directed at you, Puffy, but at the thread in general.
You chose to take it personally. Yes, perhaps you did not intend to brush off my (innocently intended)comment like an annoying fly. And I admit I'm a little sensitive when it comes to people addressing me or dissmissing something I say as if I rode in on the short bus.
" didn't intend the remark as snide. I intended it to show I didn't understand why you felt my post was unclear. "
I never said it was unclear, just that the tendency in the tread to compare the two might be misleading to a less than careful reader. THIS is where YOU chose to feel I was addressing you personally (I wasn't) and became defensive about your post (which wasn't even why I posted).
I saw, not an unclear post, but a thread that had a slight chance for misunderstanding.
I hope I have explained myself enough now, that you know I meant in no way to impugn your personal clarity, nor call your facts into question. Obviously you are too careful a poster to make a mistake, and I never meant to imply any such thing about you.
My first post wasn't even directed at you, but I understand. Lots of us tend to assume things are about us when they aren't.
So... I'm cool if you're cool?
My comments were about the thread in general, not your posts in specific. I see that I never explicitly stated that, and hadn't really considered the possibility somebody might fill in the blanks with their own interpretation.
I accept that this misunderstanding was due to me not being clear enough. I had assumed that, unless I address a poster specifically (or go on with a conversation that is clear from the context) no one would would think I was addressing them.
So this whole mess is my fault and I'm sorry to mess up your thread. I will assume from here on in that we are cool.
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The animation looks bland and rubbery, and Disney couldn't pull a good story (even out of good source material) out of their ear with both hands.
Valiant ain't gettin' my money. Well, maybe a rental when it hits the Kid Shelf for 79 cents for 5 nights. Maybe.
But for Wallace and Gromit, we'll bring the kids, reviews unread.
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I honestly think that disney's 3D stuff isn't going to work out for me. Hopefully John-Doe can figure that one out too, and they will maybe work on a new deal with Pixar or some other studio.
Disney did a BAD thing when they fired all of the 2D animators working there. I'm still sore about that one, and I hope they can learn a lesson without being completely devastated.
Vanguard studios also needs to examine Pixar much closer to see if they can replicate the 'magic'.
I would love to work for Pixar, and it's still my current career goal. (Yes, long hours, and extremely crazy schedules sometimes. My brother knows a guy that used to work there.)
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