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I like watching Deep Space 9 before I have to leave for work. When I wanted to watch it this morning, it was that crappy show MacGyver instead! Yes, I said crappy. I don't like that show, I don't know why, but I don't.
Now I have to buy DS9 on DVD just to see whole episodes.
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Although, if you look at the google ad at the bottom of the page, you can buy the entire series for $224.
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I greatly enjoy Tuvok and the Captain. In my opinion, the show didn't really pick up until the 4th season when they lost Kess (ugh) and got Seven (yay!).
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I enjoyed DS9 when everyone pulled the sticks out of their respective a$$es and the funny began. (That also had to happen with TNG and Voyager, but it was especially pronounced on DS9). The funny on DS9 is some of the best Trek funny there is.
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DS9 was a far better series. Voyager was all about gimmicks, like bringing in Seven of Nine, because we got sick of them fighting the same bad guys for the first three years. Tuvok was your average boring Vulcan, Tores your average hot headed Klingon. It's all been done before.
The only character of significance on that show was Robert Picardo as "the doctor." Don't get me wrong, I liked the show, but the series finale was probably the worst in Star Trek lore.
DS9 struggled a bit in the earlier seasons, but by four, I think it was a strong show. They worked out their balance of comedy and action, had some sweet space battles and great plots, and dealt with some real character development, as well as the long awaited romance between Kira and Odo. Also, bringing James Darren on as Vic Fontaine was just awesome!
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: DS9 was a far better series. Voyager was all about gimmicks, like bringing in Seven of Nine, because we got sick of them fighting the same bad guys for the first three years. Tuvok was your average boring Vulcan, Tores your average hot headed Klingon. It's all been done before.
The only character of significance on that show was Robert Picardo as "the doctor." Don't get me wrong, I liked the show, but the series finale was probably the worst in Star Trek lore.
I agree with your assessment of Voyager—it had all been done before. The Doctor and Seven were interesting characters, but I think they were wasted.
Also, I think the finale was one of the worst in TV lore.
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The fact that Darmok was an excellent ST episode just goes to show how weak the vast majority are.
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Temba, his fists unfurled! Shaka, when the walls fell.
The reason Darmok is such a good episode is really a history lesson. Heroic epics like Gilgamesh and similar stories from hundreds of other cultures are about common threads that weave through the combined history of man. Most societies have a flood epic as well. The old tales from ancient cultures, regardless of whether or not they are true, are there to convey a truth, and an idea.
Darmok shows that two totally seperate cultures, with languages that don't remotely match up, can still find common ground because they share a common purpose and idea.
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Are you bad-mouthing MacGyver? I mean, the plots are stupid, but we get to look at Richard Dean Anderson for an hour. There is nothing bad about that (although I think he's even hotter with grey hair...)
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well geuss what, Babylon 5 beats ALL THREE OF THEM HANDS EFFING DOWN!
Seriously, Babylon 5 I consider has the better character/plot/story development, but ST has the better epidsode by episode development.
Like To rephrase Bab5 was better when you watched like 2-3 in a row, Star Trek you could watch generally ANY random episode and have fun, Bab5 you have to watch inorder. IMHO.
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Didn't you have the dream that you married Hammond? I'm beginning to think this SG-1 fixation is unhealthy.
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It's still feasible. For all we know, their technology is expressed entirely numerically, or there is a seperate set of metaphors and language sets for other kinds of communication. Maybe this is a specific test they do when meeting new cultures as a test of their new friends' ability to adapt. We don't know enough about the Tammarians to assume their entire culture is based on the metaphorical aspects of a single epic story.
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No, it isn't. I liked Voyager, but it was as predictable as the alphabet.
Blayne, I've heard that Babylon 5 is better, but I don't care. I like Star Trek, and it's only TV. I might watch Babylon 5 some day, though.
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quote:DS9 struggled a bit in the earlier seasons, but by four, I think it was a strong show. They worked out their balance of comedy and action, had some sweet space battles and great plots, and dealt with some real character development, as well as the long awaited romance between Kira and Odo. Also, bringing James Darren on as Vic Fontaine was just awesome!
I agree. The characters and plots are the biggest reasons I like DS9. It is really interesting. I think I'm angry mostly because I didn't start watching the show until a few months ago. I was channel surfing and a Star Trek show popped on. It just happened to be DS9. I quickly grew to enjoy it.
The only episode I didn't like was the stupid one where everyone got confused and started using unintelligible sentences. That was awful!
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quote:No, it isn't. I liked Voyager, but it was as predictable as the alphabet.
Since when is the alphabet predictable?
I liked VOY better than DS9, mostly because the only episode of DS9 I've ever seen is the finale (which is really very good, but when you have no idea who anyone is and/or why they're doing the things they are, it's a little hard). I was with VOY from the very beginning to the bitter, horrible, awful end.
TNG does, in fact, trump the two of them put together.
And kq, there's no such thing as an unhealthy SG-1 obsession. Unless you're actually stalking Hammond. Then I might have to ask a few tough questions... Posts: 3932 | Registered: Sep 1999
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quote:The thing only makes sense if you accept the entire episode as a metaphor.
It makes sense if you're willing to accept outside-the-box thinking. As Spock used to say, "There are always possibilities."
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quote:And kq, there's no such thing as an unhealthy SG-1 obsession. Unless you're actually stalking Hammond. Then I might have to ask a few tough questions...
Ummmm... I take the fifth.
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quote:t's still feasible. For all we know, their technology is expressed entirely numerically, or there is a seperate set of metaphors and language sets for other kinds of communication. Maybe this is a specific test they do when meeting new cultures as a test of their new friends' ability to adapt. We don't know enough about the Tammarians to assume their entire culture is based on the metaphorical aspects of a single epic story.
I believe that if you have to make up excuses that are not even hinted at in the story in order to make the story make sense (like you have to do with Star Wars), it is indicative of a failure in storytelling.
I still say that the story of Darmok, as shown in the episode just doesn't make sense.
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quote: Babylon 5 beats ALL THREE OF THEM HANDS EFFING DOWN!
My brother-in-law holds the same view, so I finally let him talk me into watching a Bablyon 5 movie thing. It was so boring I wanted to claw my eyes out.
And I think DS9 was by far the best (at least the last couple of seasons). The character development and ongoing plots were incredible. Posts: 1947 | Registered: Aug 2002
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Of all the Star Trek series, Deep Space Nine was the most disappointing. It was like a soap opera, they didn't go out asplorin', they just stayed home all the time.
The Next Generation was the best of the lot. Better than the original, better than all the rest. That Picard! What a guy!
Voyager improved when they let Kes off the ship and took on Seven of Nine. Seven! Whoa! I'd like to think that centuries from now we will have advanced to a point where we will all be walking around our space ships in skin tight catsuits and high heels.
I haven't seen such a practical space suit since "Barbarella".
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True, but the borg outfit used to cause her to pass out. And it even after she was down to (what looked like nearly nothing) it still took 20 minutes to get into (and people to help her) which made going to the bathroom a big ordeal.
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quote: Deep Space Nine was the most disappointing. It was like a soap opera, they didn't go out asplorin
Funny, that's what I liked so much about it.
And I talked to my brother-in-law. He says the Babylon 5 movie I watched was quickly made as a summary of all that had happened when the show changed networks. My sister got it for him at the dollar store . Given this new knowledge, maybe I should give it another chance. Any particular seasons/ episodes I should watch to get a feel for the show?
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We had a list here on hatrack of which season 1 episodes were safe to skip (there were some big stinkers in season 1).
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