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Professor Benton
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Wow! A politico did something historical? Rumor is, PRESIDENT BUSH canceled daylight savings time. What a historical note that will be in the wake of hurricane Katrina. Is there anybody out there?
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KarlEd
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So it's only 12:47 EST now? Damn! An extra hour of work today. [Grumble]
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I don't see how Bush could do that, since the president cannot nullify an existing law.
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Professor Benton
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Hi KarlEd, what's cooking besides a boring day? Any feelings on the Pledge Allegence?
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mr_porteiro_head
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Who are you, PB?
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Professor Benton
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mr_porteiro_head, I don't remember the daylight savings time standard being law. Where did you hear this?
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mr_porteiro_head
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The first hit in google:

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/e.html

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By 1966, some 100 million Americans were observing Daylight Saving Time based on their own local laws and customs. Congress decided to step in to end the confusion and establish one pattern across the country. The Uniform Time Act of 1966 (15 U.S. Code Section 260a) [see law] which was signed into Public Law 89-387 on 12 April 1966, by President Lyndon Johnson, created Daylight Saving Time to begin on the last Sunday of April and to end on the last Sunday of October. Any State that wanted to be exempt from Daylight Saving Time could do so by passing a State law.

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Dubya signed the 2005EnergyBill in which Congress had already extended DaylightSavingTime for three weeks in Spring and one week in Autumn.

[ September 15, 2005, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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I don't see how extending it can in any sense be called cancelling it.
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quote:
Rumor is, PRESIDENT BUSH canceled daylight savings time.
I don't see how this sort of thing can be just a rumor. He either cancelled it or he didn't.
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I haven't had the news on today (or any tv, I want to sleep), but is it possible that what pb heard has something to do with the law coming into affect in Indiana in April that will put us under daylight savings time, instead of just being standard. Or maybe this is some silly troll who wants to make my sinus infection worse.
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Apparently the energy bill passed by the Senate is the source of this rumor. It extends, rather than cancels, "daylight savings time."
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quote:
What a historical note that will be in the wake of hurricane Katrina.
Why?
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Oh Prof, don't even try, you make jokes around these people and they grab their heads and scream "THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE" before they explode.
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Teshi
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Speaking of political science. I just sat through two hours of explanations of theories (not the actual content, the theory of the theory). I mean, these people have a little theory for everything that supposedly explains something else.

We have wars because (insert theory here).
We don't have wars because (insert theory here).

They even value simplicity over complexity. I couldn't believe it. I've got a theory for why we have wars: because there are so many political scientists who try to assign human lives to scientific theories.

I grant you that you can say "it's better to have democracy because it's stable" but any person could tell you that!

EDIT: I mean, I said last year that America has issues in this and that because vaguely of this and that, but I would never, never try to predict war or revolution with a theory other than in the vaguest of terms.

Is this seriously what Political Scientists do all day long? In my (completely not humble) opinion it's a load of hogwash. Or am I judging too early?

Even worse, the professor has an voice that's very reminicient of the Monty Python dinosaur sketch lady, Anne Elk. "My theowy, is that dinosaurs are small at one end..."

I'm seriously reconsidering my minor in PolSci if this is what we get taught.

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Teshi, I understand the frustration - I'm taking three communication courses right now (my major is Communication Management) and one of them is a theory course. All we do is study theories, dating back millennia to ancient Greece, then we study what other people theorize about those theories, then we listen to the professor tell us what he thinks about the theories that were written on the theories. And the test are basically "Okay, whose theory is this and which person from ancient Greece did he most agree with?"

In contrast, in my Health and Medical communication class, we actually talk about caregiver/patient communication, we have guest speakers that are medical professionals, we brainstorm on patient empowerment and it's altogether an awesome class.

So don't give up just because you hit a theory course. Some of your courses will be much better than others.

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Well, I liked my Pol Sci course last year. It was more real, somehow. This seems to be the lives of little people who believe they can describe the actions of the world in a book or so.

I think I'm going to examine my other options. Who k knows? I have a linguistics course tonight, maybe I'll fall in love with linguistics!

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I like my poli sci minor. But my teachers, particularly my favorites, tend to teach real world application over theory. Perhaps you just have a bad teacher or a bad course. I know my first poli sci course was mostly on third world economics, and it was dreadful. Don't give up just yet, they aren't all that bad.

--ApostleRadio

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I found this press release on the net.

(OK, I wrote it too, but that doesn't matter now.)

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Daylights Savings Accounts

Today President Bush announced his new Personal Time Accounts For Daylights Savings. “The idea is that each person has the opportunity to set their clocks back 55 minutes instead of the full hour in the spring,” explained Presidential Spokesman M.E. Yezzman. “The government allows you to invest those extra 5 minutes in a governmentally approved time investment plan where it has been shown they earn a higher rate of time over interest.”

"By the time a 20 year old today is ready to retire," explained a time accountant with the American Good Time Organization, a conservative policy advisory group, "he will have earned and saved, on average, three and a half years. Do you honestly think the government could spend your time better than you?"

Opposition leaders argue that such an investment scheme will increase the national time-debt to well over 2.5 centuries. "Though our President would love that" joked the Democratic Representative from Montreal. "That would put him right smack in the middle of the era of hereditary kings named George."

“Let me make this perfectly clear,” Said President Bush in his weekly radio address, “To win the Weird Al tickets you have to be the 13th caller on the Prize Line. Lines are open now. Oh, and in regards to the Daylight Savings Accounts, rest assured these will not affect the current time remaining for today’s retirees or those who will retire within the next ten years. I will not shorten the time of anyone over the age of 50. Those are off limits and not open for discussion.”

Soldiers under the age of 40 are a different matter.

Later, presidential spokesmen explained that, in order to pay for these accounts, he would not shorten any person’s time, he is open to any plan others may suggest including personal leap decades. “People don’t really like being in their 70’s or 80’s anyway. Why not jump straight from 69 to 90. It’s the 90 year olds who get all the respect. We get us a few more Octogenarians and the US may reclaim “oldest living person” once again.”

In dispute Clive Olderman, member of “Octogenarian’s for a easier word to spell that describe people over 80,” an affiliate of the AARP, has disputed the idea of leap decades. The 104 year old Clive said, “Heck, some of the best sex I can remember having happened in my 80s. Of course, I don’t remember much from before then. Still, I wouldn’t want to have given that up.”

Bert Finkalot CPA had another fear with these personalized time accounts. “If I take ten minutes of my year to fill out the federal paperwork that saves me five minutes, what have I really saved?”

Spokesmen for the President call that Lost Time argument a bunch of scientific gibberish. “Nonsense,” said President Bush during the radio interview. “That is just them dumb science nerds trying to confuse people with cold facts when it is faith that is important. If you believe you are saving yourself five minutes, you are saving it and earning interest on it, no matter how many hours it takes you to do the paperwork.”


This Article had to come to a stop.

We ran out of time.


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[ROFL]
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