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Enigmatic
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We saw 2046 this afternoon. The cinematography was very pretty and the music was good. (ElJay seems to have liked the music a lot more than I did.) There's a few clever lines and some potentially intriguing character relationships. Ziyi Zhang is very pretty.

Ok, that's about everything nice that I can think of to say about this movie. None of the intriguing relationships are explored in any meaningful way. The main character is a womanizing jerk, and the nice girl who should be too good for him completely falls for him anyway. It's full of the kind of drawn-out pretentious gibberish that you really hope is some sort of symbolism for something deeper because it sure doesn't seem to have a point on the surface. I sat through most of it either wishing they'd pick one storyarc and actually stick with it for a while, or just wondering how soon it would end. It might have been a very sad and tragic tale if the POV character hadn't been such a cretin.

This is the kind of art-house foreign film that gives both art-house and foreign films a bad name. The movie that people claim is brilliant because it doesn't make any sense but they don't want to admit that. 2 hours and 9 minutes have rarely felt as long as that pile of suckiness.
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I didn't like it.

--Enigmatic

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I thought of seeing it, but then I started to watch the prequel.
It was a bit decadent, mostly they had cool music, then the two characters were walking up and down stairs, some long conversations...
I stopped watching it because it was a bit dull.

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ElJay
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I didn't dislike it as much as he did.

But I did think it was over at least three times before it actually ended, and each time it was a disappointment when I realized I was wrong.

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Also, you know you never said that you didn't want to see it. If you'd've told me in advance that you thought it was gonna be pretentious crap I would have trusted your opinion and we could've gone to Sky High. [Razz]
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Sky High was wonderful. I also really enjoyed Brothers Grimm, which I believe you were also considering, although our host and several other posters disagree with me on that.

And Something Like Heaven was pretty good too.

Sorry you picked a loser. [Razz]

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Enigmatic
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From the trailer I feared it was going to be pretentious crap, but I didn't have a firm opinion on how likely that was. I still kinda wanted to see it, to see what it was really about and because I hoped that it would be a really thought-provoking movie. You sounded like you really wanted to go to this one after I suggested other possibilities, so I did not express my fears.

Yes, I take responsibility for that negligence.

--Enigmatic

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Sky High, or....


What a gap between those two films, huh? [Big Grin]

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I thought Something Like Heaven was really cute.

I'm one of those who'd disagree with dkw about The Brothers Grimm. <insert barfy smiley here> Not Terry Gilliam's finest work, that's for sure.

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dkw
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I didn't say I thought it was great filmmaking, I said I enjoyed it. Those two categories, while overlapping, are not always the same.
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I highly recommend "Everything is Illuminated", when it comes out as a splendid film [Smile] .
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quote:
The main character is a womanizing jerk, and the nice girl who should be too good for him completely falls for him anyway.
So this was an arthouse version of "Two weeks notice"?
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Kwea
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quote:
Originally posted by dkw:
I didn't say I thought it was great filmmaking, I said I enjoyed it. Those two categories, while overlapping, are not always the same.

I was thinking the same thing when I posted my first reply, but all I was really saying is that one was tryign too hard to be serious while the other is very light-hearted.


Completely different genres, that's all. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by dkw:
I didn't say I thought it was great filmmaking, I said I enjoyed it. Those two categories, while overlapping, are not always the same.

Dana, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, of course. I probably should have separated the two sentences with a paragraph break or something. I didn't enjoy The Brothers Grimm and that's all I meant in comparison. The follow up sentence was meant to express surprise that I didn't enjoy it when I normally like Terry Gilliam's work.
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dkw
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That post sounded a lot more snotty than I meant it. Picture it with a disarming smile or something.
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Enigmatic
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A disarming smile is very useful in fencing.

--Enigmatic

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Noemon
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But in writing a disarming simile is more useful.
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twinky
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SMILEY.
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ElJay
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Um, twink, I think he meant this definition:

quote:
simile

n : a figure of speech that expresses a resemblance between things of different kinds (usually formed with `like' or `as')

Unless I'm being too literal and you're teasing?
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Kwea
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What, it isn't possible for both of those to be true at the same time? [Wink]
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ElJay, please get out of my head.

It's crowded enough in there already.

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*sigh*

I let my mind wander and it didn't come back.

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But rivka, I'm having so much fun in here!
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