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Dan_raven
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On NPR yesterday I heard a major US Author, revered for his works, and often censored as well, espoused the following: "If Jesus Christ were on earth now, there is one thing he would not be--A Christian."

Any one want to guess who this liberal hate-monger is who has joined the modern culture wars on the side of the heathen?

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romanylass
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Michael Moore?
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Tante Shvester
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Piers Anthony?
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Lisa
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It could pretty much be anyone. Um... Andrew Greeley? Any author who doesn't say stuff like that doesn't get treated well by the media (except Fox, maybe). You know that.
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I have no idea who it would be, but technically he's correct. It's difficult to be a follower of yourself.

Of course, I rather doubt that that was what he meant.

--Mel

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Dan_raven
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the mysterious author--Samuel Clemens.

Hey, this culture wars thing has been going on for quite some time.

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Is the the same guy who call the Book of Mormon Chloroform in Print?

We all have opinions. They're just wrong if they don't agree with mine. That's what I tell my students anyway. [Evil]

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Glenn Arnold
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I would have said Kurt Vonnegut.

Of course, Jesus wasn't a Christian. He was Christ.

But I think all that Mr. Clemens meant was that Jesus would not be a modern Zeolot. He wasn't one then either.

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Jesus was a Jew, and you saw how well he got along with them. I think Christ's behaviors towards the society he lived in was that he attacked hypocrisy at all levels. And I would never be so proud to say that todays Christianity doesn't have problems. If Christ were mortal today, I think he would have more then enough to say against Christiandom.
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It's very easy to be a religiously devout follower of oneself. Take me, for instance.
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Storm Saxon
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quote:

It could pretty much be anyone. Um... Andrew Greeley? Any author who doesn't say stuff like that doesn't get treated well by the media (except Fox, maybe). You know that.

I know that the media hates almost everyone. I can bring up links of media bias on almost any group you care to name. Jews? Media hates'em. Muslim? Hated. Atheists? Hated. Christians? Hated. White people? Hated. Black people? Hated. Brown people? Hated. Handicapped people? Hated. Fat people? Hated. Amish? Hated. Italians? Hated.

I think the only people the media doesn't hate, or at least doesn't have a group bitching and moaning about it, are the beautiful people.

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And the media itself. Although, I've often heard about how the media is extremely biased, and I didn't hear it from someone I know personally, so wouldn't that technically be from the media?
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human_2.0
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The media thinks everything. One thing they wont say is that they have nothing useful to say.

And tabloids have plenty of beautiful (famous) people who hate them!

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Naw, they hate beautiful people too, which is why they write so many things about them I don't need to know.
Poor people.
[Frown]

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TomDavidson
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quote:
And the media itself.
This isn't true, either. The media spends a lot of energy insulting itself.
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Tante Shvester
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm Saxon:
I know that the media hates almost everyone. I can bring up links of media bias on almost any group you care to name. Jews? Media hates'em. Muslim? Hated. Atheists? Hated. Christians? Hated. White people? Hated. Black people? Hated. Brown people? Hated. Handicapped people? Hated. Fat people? Hated. Amish? Hated. Italians? Hated.

Tom Lehrer had a thing or two to say about that. [Big Grin]
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MandyM
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I agree Human. I think He would let some of the Christian leaders have it just like He did with the Pharisees. And He would hang out in the ghettos with the druggies and the gang members, not with the upper crust. Now THAT would be an interesting read... maybe I should contact Jenkins and LaHaye. *kidding*
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Stark
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I was raised christian and though I'm now agnostic I still follow christian values--mostly the ones that were important to Christ. I tend to agree with the notion that he wouldn't like any incarnation of modern christianity. The basic values may be there but the core message (tolerance, charity, etc.) has long been diminished and obscured.

And at the risk of offending someone I feel I should mention that western christians are amoung the least opressed people in the world. Why is everyone always looking to be the victim?

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Storm Saxon
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That's pretty funny, Tante. [Smile]
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Yeah, I don't think there's a word for what Christ would be were he standing here in the flesh. I mean, he gets his marching orders from his Father. He does not need His sacrifice, which was kind of the point.
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TomDavidson
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And He would hang out in the ghettos with the druggies and the gang members, not with the upper crust.
It's worth noting that he'd be hanging out with these people to reform them, not necessarily to enjoy their lifestyle.
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MandyM
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Well, of course.
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I don't see Jesus and Pat Robertson getting along all that well. Jesus keeps repeating "No, no, Pat, I said love your neighbor."
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Stephan
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Ah, good old Mark Twain. The funny thing is that he really liked the Jews.
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"Liked"? Not really. Had respect for as a group? I think so -- as much as he did for anyone.
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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
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And He would hang out in the ghettos with the druggies and the gang members, not with the upper crust.
It's worth noting that he'd be hanging out with these people to reform them, not necessarily to enjoy their lifestyle.
While I have no problems seeing him hang out with the druggies and gang members to help reform them, I think he would also hang out with the upper crust to help reform them.

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Ah, good old Mark Twain. The funny thing is that he really liked the Jews.
Except that they were people, and he didn't like people.
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