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Many of you know that I have refused to watch anything remotely linked to Firefly. So today I have rented Serenity. We'll see if I become a Brown Coat or not...
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I agree with the great thread title. That's thewhole reason I clicked on this thread. Enjoy Serenity. it's amazing.
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Well it's over and I must say it was pretty good. Some very good dialog. Am I a convert? The answer is no. Might be worth another look though.
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Wowbagger, Firefly was better than Serenity. I probably wouldn't have been converted by the movie alone. If you do break down and watch it, just sorta endure the first 30 minutes or so of the pilot episode--that was confusing to me. From there on, the series was excellent.
Have you ever explained what your name means? Or have you done it so many times you're sick of that question? Would love to know . . .
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I concur with Uprooted. I thought Serenity was really good, but I didn't become what I guess you would call a convert until I started watching Firefly. It's ... really good. And in Serenity's defense, compared to most of the trash that comes out today, I was quite pleased.
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quote:Originally posted by Uprooted: Have you ever explained what your name means? Or have you done it so many times you're sick of that question? Would love to know . . .
An immortal who has made it his quest to insult everyone in the Universe. At least that is what Douglas Adams says. Posts: 1901 | Registered: May 2004
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Thanks, Lupus, I guess I'm gonna have to break down and read Douglas Adams one of these days! (but I'm sure watching Firefly is better.)
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Yeah, Firefly is much better than Serenity. I've yet to meet the person who saw Firefly and wasn't a convert.
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But why? Why would you not want to convert to loving a show that is so completely awesome and amazing! It's the right thing to do. Come on ... you know you want to ... everybody's doing it ...
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I learned of the series via the movie, which I liked a heck of a lot, but the movie took on a whole new meaning once I saw the series, because suddenly people who I liked a lot were killed off. I dig the fact the Whedon will hurt or kill off main characters. Mixes things up!
I guess I'm a sicko.
Watching the series first made a BIG difference, as would be expected, though not required to enjoy the film.
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quote:Originally posted by Dr Strangelove: But why? Why would you not want to convert to loving a show that is so completely awesome and amazing! It's the right thing to do. Come on ... you know you want to ... everybody's doing it ...
Firefly
And you wonder why I may never watch the show.
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The show's brilliant. Don't let the fervor of the converts scare you away! It's not like a cult, really. Only a little bit. In a harmless sort of way. And all the cult members are really cool people, honest.
Anyway, if you watch the show and hate it, you can make fun of all of us who worship it, which has to be as good a reason as any to watch something.
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quote:Originally posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged: Well it's over and I must say it was pretty good. Some very good dialog. Am I a convert? The answer is no. Might be worth another look though.
This just cannot be! How can you not have been converted?!
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I'm about to make a convert of a new friend. She loved the movie but didn't know about Firefly. I'm going to loan her my copy of the series this weekend.
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Wowbagger, it's worth noting that avoiding something only because it seems excessively beloved is just as cliche as the opposite approach.
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quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Wowbagger, it's worth noting that avoiding something only because it seems excessively beloved is just as cliche as the opposite approach.
It's sort of like the teens who rebel against our conformist society....
...all wearing black, with piercings and black clothes.
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quote:Originally posted by Uprooted: Thanks, Lupus, I guess I'm gonna have to break down and read Douglas Adams one of these days! (but I'm sure watching Firefly is better.)
How DARE you Sir!
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I challenge you to a duel!
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Firefly/Serenity would work even if everyone were unattractive. That's a rare compliment. I like Farscape, but I don't know if it would work if Criton and Aeryn were 70 pounds overweight. Well, I typically don't like science fiction-- unless there is a pretty girl to make it go down easier-- and I thought Buffy the Vampire Slayer was stupid, but I found both Firefly and Serenity delicious.
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I am a lady, not a sir. Although, as I acknowledged in another thread, I recognize that my name is not terribly feminine and therefore I forgive you.
And I don't know how to duel any better than Mal did in Shindig.
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What make this so funny is that as a girl she could still wipe the floor with him, and not even break a sweat. (no offence towards the female gender)
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Forgive me if this has already been posted but the TWOP review of Serenity is one of the best pieces of cultural criticism that I have read in the past year. Maybe ever. Absolutely funny, heart-breaking and brilliant.
And yes, TWOP, recaps are often quite funny -- but this one transcends their usual formula e.g. lacks the snarkiness.
What impressed me most is the analysis of how the aesthetics of the project. Yeah, some of it is a bit "I had a graduate seminar in Jung" or whatever -- been even that works in context.
An academic would say "too much plot summary." I hated that restriction anyway. It seems to me that the best way to analyze a work is to include tons of summary -- if in doing so you do what this author did (and what my habit was), that is the words you use in summarizing add to your analysis of the work.
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I have the first season of Farscape in my Netflix queue. Is it worth starting there? Or is it one of those things where the first season is not that great and I can start at a later point in the show?
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Since the purpose of TWOP is, essentially, plot summary + snark, I don't think your hypothetical academic would be able to protest. It's an all new format of essay-writing, is TWOP. And yeah, their "Serenity" recap is the best I've ever read. Perfectly encapsulates the story while offering intelligent criticism and consideration of how Whedon's choices as a writer and director played into the themes of the movie. It's like the best of academic analysis mixed into the informal writing of the internet, with a healthy dollop of snark to keep things interesting.
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It's two cuts melded seamlessly together, with a little sleight-of-camera to distract you from any of the tell-tale signs of a cut you might have noticed, actually.
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It's filmed as a "oner" but as the upper half of the ship and the lower half were two separate sets (as they were in the show's filming) a single unbroken shot would have been impossible.
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You know, two doesn't make that any less impressive. It explains the many "imperfections" in the dialog (not the dialect, but dropped prepositions and such) that they usually clean up by splicing 8 takes together in 4 second cuts.
I thought the entire sequence was beautiful.
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Awesome thread title.
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This just cannot be! How can you not have been converted?!
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It's an all new format of essay-writing, is TWOP. And yeah, their "Serenity" recap is the best I've ever read. Perfectly encapsulates the story while offering intelligent criticism and consideration of how Whedon's choices as a writer and director played into the themes of the movie. It's like the best of academic analysis mixed into the informal writing of the internet, with a healthy dollop of snark to keep things interesting.
