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katharina
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I miss it. I miss being challenged and I miss thinking about this in a methodical way, and I want to do something with biology again. I am thinking about making my next career move be into science writing, but it looks like all jobs except for freelance require that I have a bachelor's in a science.

I have a minor in biology and in chemistry, and I've taken calculus and physics, so as long as those are accepted I need only about five upper division classes to get a bachelor's in biology. I don't have a lot of flexibility in my work schedule, so there's the added complication that I would need to take any classes at night or on Saturdays.

Does anyone know what schools in the DC area I should look at? I'd rather not get it from a community college if I can help it, but it may be that it's just not possible to get it from any of the traditional universities around here under those restrictions.

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I laughed because I had similar sentiments about missing math and science. I wish I could help you in your search for schools in the DC area. Good luck.
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Katie, you should be aware than most universities will have a minimum-credits-attended-on-site requirement. In some states, this is required by state law. I have no idea what D.C. or Virginia's policies are, nor those of the local institutions, but it's something to check on.
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katharina
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Yes, Utah State require 30, which is ten classes. That's frustrating, but I still want to try. [Smile]
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30 is very common; 45 is not uncommon as well.

Oh, and think it's very cool that you're doing this. Science/technical editing/writing used to be my dream job.

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Back to being a professional student? Or just semi-pro? [Wink]
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katharina
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I'm restless. [Smile]
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El JT de Spang
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Idle hands, and all that.
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katharina
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Exactly. I bought a coloring book yesterday. It was an anatomy coloring book, but still.
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rivka
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*LAUGH*
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There are several schools in the DC area; George Washington, George Mason, and the University of Maryland to name a few. Further south (in Fredericksburg! YAYY!) there's the University of Mary Washington. Most of these are mainly liberal arts schools, although I think Mason is gearing itself towards computer science these days.
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Scott R
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George Washington

George Mason

University of Maryland

University of Mary Washington

A lot of Virginia schools have a program set up where you can get your associates degree from a community college, then transfer those credits to a 'regular' school. When I find the time to get my Bachelor's in CS, that's what I'm going to do.

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rivka
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GWU offers both biology and chemistry degrees.
Transfer student applications.
Office of Admissions.
I can't find anything about on-site minimums.

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Just spend a week in the Smithsonian and get over it.
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rivka
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George Mason has a 30 credit minimum.
So does UofM.
And UMW does as well.

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I don't know what their requirements for a degree would be, but I imagine most of the schools in the DC area have pretty extensive programs for professionals. I've had friends get degrees at George Mason while working 9-5, and I think they have a number of pretty flexible programs. Same with Maryland. Additionally, both Virginia Tech and the University of Virginia have a satellite campus in the area (Falls Church, I believe) and I know that VT's programs there are almost exclusively geared towards individuals working full time.

I don't know so much about the schools in DC, but in addition to GWU and Georgetown, Catholic, Trinity and American may all be worth a look.

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Ummm...Georgetown
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Scott R
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Dan_Raven: I've got an acquaintance (my stake president, actually-- it's a Mo' thing) that works for the Smithsonian institute. He's an entymologist. When he found out I was an amateuer beekeeper, he gave me a quiz on bees that made me feel REALLY amateur.

He recently took the youth in our ward (about 30 or so kids) on a behind the scenes tour of the Smithsonian. Very neat dude. Also, I hear that he is one of the best campers to go camping with, since he also does a lot of field work and has the latest toys to play with.

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Catholic only allows a maximum or 20 courses (probably 60-80 credits) to transfer.

I am extremely unimpressed with Trinity's website. Can't find anything on transfer credits policies at all. Try calling them.

American will only let you transfer up to 75 credits.

Georgetown will only let you transfer 60. Wow, not many schools have a 60-credit residency requirement. (Although I know of a couple with 84.)

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Yeah, Georgetown is kind of a pain.
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katharina
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Man, y'all are wonderful.

Okay, none of the above. I'm going to try some of the public universities.

The catch is that I'm already into a masters program. My university in Texas doesn't have an online option, so to finish, I need to transfer somewhere. Technical Writing is not a popular program, so there aren't a lot of good options. The best option is Texas Tech. However, I'm no longer a resident of Texas, so that just got a great deal more expensive. Ideally I want to both finish the masters in tech writing and a bachelor's in biology, because I think that for what I want to do at the level I want to do it, I might need both.

The links are amazing. I'm going to check them all out.

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katharina
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FOr record keeping purposes, there are also the following options:

Marymount University
Virginia Commonwealth has an Arlington campus. Northern Virginia Community College

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Scott R
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NoVA CC (NOVA) is a community college-- you can't get a bachelor's degree from there, I don't think.
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Marymount has a maximum (64) for community college transfer credits, but doesn't seem to have a transfer max otherwise.
VCU has a 30-credit residency requirement.
NVCC requires that no more than 75% of your degree credits be transfer credits.

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quote:
Originally posted by Scott R:
NoVA CC (NOVA) is a community college-- you can't get a bachelor's degree from there, I don't think.

Probably true (although it may depend on VA law.)

You also wouldn't qualify for resident tuition.

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To get a biology degree from VCU, I need 8 classes, or 24 credits.

1 statistics classes
1 Introduction to Life Sciences *blech*
1 animal biology
1 plant biology
1 cell biology
1 ecology
2 biology electives

I'm still short of the 30 needed, but it's possible my calculations of the above aren't quite right and I'll need a couple more biology classes because of the laboratory and writing intensive requirements. Hmm..

Added: There's not a lot of classes taught at night, but it looks like there's two or three a semester that would work.

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My mom is a freelance science editor (specializing in papers by non-native speakers), and she greatly enjoys it. I'm sure you'll find the endeavor rewarding.
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rivka
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Katie, have you called VCU to talk with someone who specializes in transfer credits? I strongly recommend doing so.
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Check with the University of Maryland. It useta be (may still be, just haven't checked recently) the accrediting school for off-campus college classes for the US military worldwide, including remote and sea duty.
I'd suspect that UoM credits were highly transferable to other colleges because of agreements of reciprocity. If that were the case, UoM probably has a more lenient attitude toward accepting credits from other colleges than most universities.

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rivka
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They have a 30-credit residency requirement.
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Kasie H
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USDA graduate school. Absolute way to go.

Cheap, flexible (onsite, online, whatever), excellent reputation, especially in language courses. Most courses are scheduled evening/weekend, designed for people working full time.

I'm planning on taking beginning Arabic there as soon as I get off of this crazy night schedule. It's $365 for a three credit course that meets one evening a week for two and a half hours.

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Link: http://www.grad.usda.gov/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

Caveat:
Not sure how one goes about getting a degree from there.

Second caveat:
They also don't seem to offer degress in straight biology or chemistry. Their math/science stuff is a little more vague, like meteorology.

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Kasie H
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Ooh, and aspectre's right. I had a friend who was enlisted in teh Air Force, stationed all over the world, and got her bachelor's from UMD online all while working full time and overseas.

She now works for the NSA doing stuff she can't tell me about.

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Don't forget American University. I don't know about their website and credit transfers though.
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Kasie H
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Oh, and here's teh other reason to go public, not private - GWU charges $975 per credit if you're getting an undergraduate degree.

American, Gtown and other private schools are similar.

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Kasie H
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Oh, and just fyi - all of the DC-area schools (including UMD) are part of the consortium. It's a nice one stop place to take a look at all of them.

http://www.consortium.org/main.asp

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katharina
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Kasie, that's fabulous - thank you.

*clicks away happily*

I do need to do something. I usually need a project outside of work to capture my attention anyway, and it's currently worse because my DVD player broke. I went to buy one yesterday but bought shoes instead. [Razz]

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Ah, priorities.
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