so my question is, when Vista comes out, who will get it and why? and for what reasons will ppl not choose to get it, ie: what ud ont like about XP. besidew waiting for bug fixes cuz its a new OS, let me know what everyone thinks.
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I have no intention of getting it. There is nothing I can see XP needs an improvement on. Any thing I don't like about it I can accomplish with free software.
The only improvement I can determine Vista will have is with security. If you stay away from the porn sites, file sharing, surf on a limited account, and use fire-fox, you don't really need to worry about security.
One thing I heard is that Microsoft is not being very helpful to third party vendors like Norton in releasing code so they can make security updates for Vista.
I also heard a rumor that vista will have built in copy protection so you cannot make back-ups of your DVDs. I have a 2 year old, I go through back up like candy.
However, when I buy a new system I will probably end up with Vista--just not as a upgrade.
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I have no need of it right now, as long as games stay compatible with XP I'll stick with that. I only upgraded my desktop to XP about 6 months ago.
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I have absolutely no intention of getting it until I absolutely must. Unfortunately, I'll get to experience the joys of vista at work.
Like Tick, I just recently upgraded to XP (about a year ago.) I also think XP does everything I need, and (mostly) without being a pain in the butt.
Vista has quite a bit of copy protection built-in. I'm not sure about the DVD thing, to be honest. However, I've read numerous reports stating how incredibly tight the controls on high definition video will be. Fair use doesn't exist in their eyes. Or maybe their idea of fair use is just completely opposite mine.
Bottom line, I'm a pretty heavy computer user. But I'm not going to spend $400 on a new operating system.
Info about Vista, but you need to read between the lines: Windows Vista (Wikipedia)
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My knowledge of Vista extends to a nice ballcap with it as the logo, and about 10 minutes I spent on the computer of a developer-friend who got an early copy. It's very pretty. Reminds me of OS operating systems - they pretty much stole all of Mac's good ideas. I have absolutely nothing concrete to add to whether it actually is a good operating system or not. Just that I liked some of the surface features.
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Meh. I will get it only because I'm interested in the latest games and need to use up to date modelling software.
If I wasn't into gaming I would have switched to Mac a long time ago. I don't think I'll start my rant about Windows.
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Euripides: and now, with the perfectly windows-capable (all) and game-capable (some; many have wimpy vid cards) macs, you can switch easily .
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Ok, so I just can't help myself. Do read the Vista feature list. Then compare it to the features of OS X, which came out in 2001, and that of Leopard, the latest incarnation of the OS.
'Windows Mail'? A sidebar which can hold 'gadgets', as opposed to 'widgets'? It all sounds kind of familiar. In fact, I can find little if anything that Vista does which OSX does not already do well.
While Microsoft was busy writing security patches for Windows XP, Apple was doing new things and actually improving their product in a tangible way.
*gets down from soap box*
Back to your regular programming.
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quote: While Microsoft was busy writing security patches for Windows XP, Apple was doing new things and actually improving their product in a tangible way.
Now Microsoft can mass-market the technology to the other 95% of computer users
Apple needs to look at their strategy. Every time they innovate, MS tweaks what they created and gains market share. There just seems to be too much inertia to slow the juggernaut...
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Definitely true. If you have any idea as to how Apple could successfully adjust its strategy to take down Microsoft, please let Steve Jobs know. Please.
Caveat: I don't hold a grudge against Microsoft because it's a pseudo-monopoly, but because they make sluggish, bulky, leaky software.
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That's too bad. He's a great guy. Fun to hang out with and everything. Want me to pass on a message?
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quote:Originally posted by lem: The only improvement I can determine Vista will have is with security. If you stay away from the porn sites, file sharing, surf on a limited account, and use fire-fox, you don't really need to worry about security.
You take the fun out of the internet. Posts: 1766 | Registered: Feb 2006
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First, they work with your old three button mouse if you just plug it in. Second, they do -- the mighty mouse can right click, left click, and do a side button squeeze click, as well as scrolling up/down and left/right.
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quote:Originally posted by fugu13: First, they work with your old three button mouse if you just plug it in.
Yes, I'm aware - hence why I said "bundled with," not "compatible with."
quote:Second, they do -- the mighty mouse can right click, left click, and do a side button squeeze click, as well as scrolling up/down and left/right.
Oooh. How new is this peripheral? They certainly weren't packaged with macs when I was shopping 6 months ago.
<runs off to examine further> I may have just found my Christmas present to myself.
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quote:Originally posted by lem: The only improvement I can determine Vista will have is with security. If you stay away from the porn sites, file sharing, surf on a limited account, and use fire-fox, you don't really need to worry about security.
You take the fun out of the internet.
lem takes the fun out of the internet? Huh! I'd wondered who was responsible. Shame on you, lem.
But seriously, I'm gonna hold out as long as I can without getting Vista, just as I held out as long as I could with 98. When I can no longer get first-party drivers for up-to-date hardware, I'll probably give up.
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see that is where im undecided. i know everything is going to switch eventually. the first 6 months of any new OS is usually bug-ridden. but even still, i havent heard about any great new features for Vista other than added security things for copyright protection.
not sure i need to spend all the money on a new Windows just for that.
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quote:Originally posted by Euripides: Isn't that the painful way to go? If you know you're going to need it eventually, why not make the jump sooner?
Well, one, I don't need it now. None of the features are must-have for me, DirectX 10 is almost certainly going to be available for XP, and I don't entirely trust that the DRM additions won't do things like mess up my existing licenses. For at least a few more years, I expect that most manufacturers will have drivers available for XP.
Two, if I wait, I can let others be the guinea pigs. If there's one or major patches for security, stability, or the like, if I adapt down the road I can get them all in one go, rather than being an involuntary beta-tester.
Three, the Windows ME factor. Anyone remember Windows ME? (Sounds of MS technicians in the background going "No! No! Nah nah nah I can't hear you...") With huge glitches such as a tendency to leak memory like a sieve, ME was so unpopular that many computer manufacturers were still offering to install Windows 98 SE on their boxes a year after launch. If Vista is another one of those, Microsoft is likely to grudgingly work to continue to support XP until a more viable commercial candidate becomes available, much as they did 98. I'm not saying such an event is likely, but it's certainly possible.
Four, my computer is about at the upper end of its hardware capabilities with its current motherboard. I'm quite comfortable with its abilities now. But by the time I'm not, the simple solution will not be to put a new OS on an aging machine, but to get a new machine, which will almost certainly have Vista pre-installed (hopefully with the most current security patches.)
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Yep. I'm personally not very concerned about your first 3 points (I don't have much material with DRM licences, for exmple), but I can see how others might be. Your 4th point is a very good reason to hold out.
I had the impression from your last post (specifically, your last sentence) that you just wanted to postpone the change for as long as possible.
I was once unfortunate enough to have an ME in the house - my mother's laptop. I was of course responsible for technical assistance. Luckily she only used it for e-mail, but even so it deteriorated noticeably. Hopefully if Vista flops like ME did (a slim chance, as you said; what with ME having been so spectacularly forgettable), we will know early on.
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