Hmmm. This makes me wonder when (if ever) we'll see films like the long-in-development Rapunzel, or the on-again-off-again attempt to adapt The Snow Queen.
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Yeah, but a musical with the music supplied by Randy Newman. All the songs will sound exactly the same. Posts: 6689 | Registered: Jan 2005
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It's about time they had an African American princess, they've had every other kind of female ethnicity under the sun (ok maybe not, but they're getting there).
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I was actually thinking about the fact that there was no African American princess in the picture a few days ago. Perhaps my thoughts were intercepted?
Anyhoot, to tell everyone the truth, I'm not sure I have much hope in this project, or Disney anymore. Although I admit that Rapunzel looks promising.
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Naysayers should keep in mind that both Hercules and Treasure Planet came out in the dark postLion King period...when the box office returns made the Disney corporate people notice they made animated films, and suddenly the "money" people began interfering with the creative people.
The creative people also went a bit crazy themselves...there's a film called Dream On, You Crazy Dreamer! that gives an excellent view of the boom and bust of Disney's animation studio.
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quote:Originally posted by Puffy Treat: there's a film called Dream On, You Crazy Dreamer! that gives an excellent view of the boom and bust of Disney's animation studio.
quote:Originally posted by Icarus: Disney's second worst feature cartoon. Uck.
I love The Emperors New Groove. Kronk is awesome.
I submit this list of the 3 worst Disney features:
3 - Brother Bear
2 - Home On The Range And the worst Disney Movie of all time:
1 - The Black Cauldron
Going over the list of Disney feature cartoons though I was surprised at how many I love. I was trying to pick a worst 5 but found that I couldn't easily do so.
The Black Cauldron, however, is an abomination and should have all copies and originals destroyed. I hope for the day that The Prydain Chronicles get a proper film treatment, animated or otherwise.
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I guess you're excluding all the direct-to-video sequels, like Peter Pan 2, The Little Mermaid 2, and Cinderella 2 and (heaven help us) 3?
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Yes, I forgot to mention that. I can't think of a single direct-to-video Disney movie that is better than Brother Bear or Home on the Range. They are probably all better than The Black Cauldron though.
To be fair, if I had seen The Black Cauldron without having read The Prydain Chronicles I might have enjoyed it. I have tried giving it a fair chance but those books are so ingrained in me that I don't think I can be objective about the cartoon.
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Back to Hercules...I don't remember much about it, but that it had the most charming and effective music. The gospel feel and clever lyrics still make me grin when I think of them. *grin*
I am not looking forward to a movie about a princess with music by Randy Newman. Is it just me? Ugh.
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If you're going to set a movie in New Orleans, atleast get a local to do the soundtrack. There's tons of musicians here, they could find atleast one who would interested.
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I don't hate the guy, but it truly does seem that every post-1995 song written by Newman sounds a lot like "You've Got a Friend in Me".
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They had an asian looking Pocahontas. Would be nice if they would have some native (north) american heroines who looked like native americans... And didn't sing about being in harmony with nature. That's a PC myth.
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Pocahantas was originally going to be a far, far different film.
Then Beauty and the Beast got nominated for best picture. when it lost, Jeff K. (not yet gone for Dreamworks) became obsessed with creating an animated film that would appeal to the Academy. He chose Pocahantas. Suddenly, the title character got redesigned as a scantily clad eco-goddess warrior babe. Posts: 6689 | Registered: Jan 2005
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I really liked Emperor's New Groove. I thought that and Lilo & Stitch were the only truly good movies to come out of Disney since the Winnie the Pooh shorts of the 70's.
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quote:Originally posted by Snail: I really liked Emperor's New Groove. I thought that and Lilo & Stitch were the only truly good movies to come out of Disney since the Winnie the Pooh shorts of the 70's.
I also detested Winnie Pooh. I loved the character design, but the story lines were rather bland and the characters themselves were just too stupid.
Emperor's New Groove though, as I've already mentioned, was freakin' awesome. Lilo and Stitch was so-so. However, if you think that The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King are not as good as Winnie the Pooh and Lilo and Stich then I must say that I disown you.
You are officially out of my will.
P.S. I loved the Black Cauldron, I don't care what anyone says. I also read the Chronicles of Prydain, mind you. I guess the reason I loved it was because it wasn't one of those "happy-happy let's sing a song and the sadness will go away on it's own" kind of movie.
Oh, and while I've not seen all of Cinderella III, I've seen most of it and strangely, I liked it. It seems like it was actually one of the few good sequels like Down Under. For one thing, they really kept the character of the Stepmother. She's a total B*%#$ in that movie. Especially the part where she's like, "Oh, and...pick up that broken glass."
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quote:Originally posted by Icarus: The D2V movies don't count.
Somehow you left Hunchback off your list?! Bah. Worthless.
Hunchback had, by far, the best music out of any of the Disney cartoon films, so I wouldn't exactly call it worthless. Wasn't kiddie music, though. The film failed 'cause they tried to take a rather tragic story, full of adult themes, and turn it into a kid's movie.
Later, the film was turned into an *adult* musical in Germany to critical acclaim. I've never seen the show, but I do have the soundtrack - and it is without a doubt the best musical I have ever heard (helps that I know German, although most of they lyrics say basically the same thing). I wish that Disney would bring it to Broadway, but since it's rather un-Disneyish - Esmeralda dies, and Frollo is pushed to his death by Quasi - I doubt it ever will.
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Emperor's New Groove: Love it Hercules: Hate it Winnie the Pooh: Love it (although, admittedly, I haven't seen it in 20 years)
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He was from a completely different movie, story, world, design sense...cobbled into the film at the last moment when Bluth needed another Deus Ex Machina plot twist. Seriously. Posts: 6689 | Registered: Jan 2005
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