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pfresh85
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What were your thoughts? Good? Bad? If you've seen any of the TV series or previous movies, how do you think it compared?

I went and saw it with my roommate tonight. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Not near the awesomeness of the first film, but it was still pretty good (and obviously leagues ahead of the awful third movie). I got a few laughs out of it, but most of the jokes were geared towards the kids. The action was pretty good, and the fight between Leonardo and Raphael was awesome.

One disappointment was that there wasn't any sort of real bad guy (you'll see if you watch it), which is quite different from the days of fighting Shredder. Another disappointment is just the break from tradition (they all should say cowabunga, there should be a pizza joke in there, and if possible you should continue Splinter's "I made a funny" joke from the end of the old movies).

These are minor complaints though. On the whole, it was a good film, and the hints at a sequel have me hopeful. If a sequel does come out, I'll be in line to see it opening day once more.

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According to Peter Laird, the new movie is based more on the original (pre-cartoon) Turtle comic...which contained no eating of pizza, no catch phrases, and a more tongue-in-cheek, edgy vibe than the cartoon or the original films did.
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Yes, except this film is following the continuity of the first two films (and maybe even the third if what I saw at the end was what I think it was), which did have those things. Odd to get rid of something that was part of those films.

EDIT: I should say that I got the bit about following the continuity of the first two films from interviews in Toyfare and Wizard before the film came out. After seeing the film, it clearly is after the second movie.

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All I've read on that count is that the film is loosely based on the original films, but there's a lot of things (like the non-TCRI alien origin) from film two that aren't canon, and a couple of things from the first film as well.

It's not tying the Turtles to the late 8os-90s time period, for one thing. They're still teens. [Smile]

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It's actually after the third movie. At the end, with Splinters wall, you see the Lamp from the third movie.

That said, Jamie and I liked it. It was everything it should have been. It took me a good 15 20 minutes to get into it, though.

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quote:
One disappointment was that there wasn't any sort of real bad guy
Yeah, I was confused as to who they were fighting. I thought that the Winters guy was going to be the head of the bad guys and then that theory was wrong.
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All I've read on that count is that the film is loosely based on the original films, but there's a lot of things (like the non-TCRI alien origin) from film two that aren't canon, and a couple of things from the first film as well.
Maybe I read this wrong (and correct me if that's the case), but are you saying you heard the movie says the turtles have a non-TCRI origin? Because that's not true (as the ooze container with the TCRI label can be seen at the end of the film). Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say though.

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It's actually after the third movie. At the end, with Splinters wall, you see the Lamp from the third movie.
I thought that's what it was, but I wasn't positive. I didn't want to say for sure it followed the third movie without being positive. If you say it is and I thought it was, then it probably is the case though. So hooray, more continuity.
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Okay, but you guys, PATRICK STEWART. [Kiss] Patrick Stewart.

Michael and I loved it, but we also both thought it was a gigantic video game set-up.

But still great. And Patrick Stewart!

-pH

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Yes it is like a gigantic video game set-up, and unfortunately (aside from the GBA version) the video games resulting from the movie are lousy. At least the GBA version is like the old and awesome Arcade/NES/SNES/Genesis games.
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It's definately a gigantic video game set-up. I turned to my friend who I went with at some point during the movie and told him that. It's also a sequel set-up.
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I rather enjoyed it. I do think, however, that the critics don't seem to understand that this movie is purely a popcorn movie. You're just supposed to have fun. They were trying to bash it for not being like Shakespeare. Which makes me mad. It was exactly what it needed/was supposed to be.

In other words, I liked it. And so did all the eight year olds in the theater at the same time.

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The video game for Xbox 360 is a lot like Prince of Persia. Only geared more towards kids.
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Yeah. My biggest gripe about the console games for the movie are the lack of multiplayer. It's a Ninja Turtles game. It should have multiplayer.
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quote:
Originally posted by pfresh85:
[QUOTE] read this wrong (and correct me if that's the case), but are you saying you heard the movie says the turtles have a non-TCRI origin? Because that's not true (as the ooze container with the TCRI label can be seen at the end of the film). Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say though.

The movie I was referring to was (as I said) film II: Secret of the Ooze. It deleted the TCRI aliens from the Turtles origins, yet TMNT apparently reinstates this detail with the presence of that cannister.

So, yes, I wasn't clear. [Smile]

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As far as my thoughts go:

In general I enjoyed it, but I found it odd that Casey and April got far more screen time than Don and Mike. I actually like them better than I like Raph and Leo.

And it's a real shame Mako passed away before the release of the film. He was perfect as Splinter's voice.

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Agreed on both points, Puffy Treat. I wanted to see more Don and Mike. Also Mako did a great job as Splinter. I can't help but wonder who they'll get to replace him for a sequel.
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I was amused that April and Casey were shacking up. I spent the whole time giggling, "You can't put that in a family movie!" in my head.

-pH

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quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
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Originally posted by pfresh85:
[QUOTE] read this wrong (and correct me if that's the case), but are you saying you heard the movie says the turtles have a non-TCRI origin? Because that's not true (as the ooze container with the TCRI label can be seen at the end of the film). Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say though.

The movie I was referring to was (as I said) film II: Secret of the Ooze. It deleted the TCRI aliens from the Turtles origins, yet TMNT apparently reinstates this detail with the presence of that cannister.

So, yes, I wasn't clear. [Smile]

I haven't seen the new movie, but in #2 it was a canister from a company named TGRI that caused their mutation, so if this canister is seen in this film, it's in agreement with the previous movie and has nothing to do with aliens.
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Well the canister in this film says TCRI, so it's agreeing with the original comics. At the same time though, it's got other things (like the aforementioned lamp from the third movie) that show that it's still in continuity with the other movies. Perhaps the TGRI back to TCRI change was just to correct the past mistake (as the people making the 2nd movie wanted to cut the alien connection).
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Or maybe the "C" in this movie was the mistake.
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It was TCRI in the original comics, which Laird has indicated the CGI film would draw upon. He hated the "it was just a goofy human scientist" compromise film II made, and also hated the goofy new mutant villains. In promo interviews for the new film, he was adamant that those elements from films II and III that didn't fit his "vision" of the Turtles would be quietly ignored. And that the versions he preferred would be reintegrated.

It's interesting to note that some of the tie-in books for the new film feature cameos by characters unique to the second animated series (like the Silver Sentry)...which makes me wonder if scenes tying the various Turtle continuities together were deleted from the final film. [Smile]

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That would be awesome if it was the case. *crosses fingers and hopes that it was the case and that we'll see the deleted scenes on the DVD release*

EDIT: For all those who watched the old cartoon

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It was a cool movie. I agree with those that said it was a video game set-up. The scene where Michaelangelo was skateboarding down the sewer into their home looked like a really fun video game. The only thing that I didn't like was the lame jokes throughout the movie that had the kid sitting behind me dying of laughter. I don't like stupid jokes. They annoy me.
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The scene where Michaelangelo was skateboarding down the sewer into their home looked like a really fun video game.
Seconded. Plus the fight between Raf and Leo was awesome. I really liked the way they managed to maintain the continuity of the live action movies while returning to the style and continuity of the original comics at the same time. I can't wait for the sequel that was alluded to [Big Grin]
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