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I can't take it anymore. You get emotionally invested into a show and they cancel it.
You can add Jericho to the list of shows I liked that didn't make it, and that after what was supposed to be a season ending complete with a major character death and a cliffhanger. Now I'll never know who bombed the cities. Or if Jericho survives it's battle with New Bern.
No more. What's the use, if the show isn't on cable odds are it won't make it. But they have plenty of room for CSI: Topeka, or Survivor: Rhode Island.
I'm done. I'm mad as hell and I'm not taking it anymore.
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Just give up on watching TV at all.* I have, and I'm not missing much.
* On a regular basis. I still watch some TV at other people's houses, and I still watch the occassional DVD.
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Oh, dear. Jericho hadn't been imported here yet, but the premise sounded interesting. I was going to check it out when it got picked up by a UK station. Guess we'll never get it now...
In good news, they seem to have renewed 'Supernatural', which makes me happy because that show reminds me a little of my long-lost beloved X-Files. And they renewed Battlestar weeks ago. Nothing else I watch was in any danger of being cancelled this year, far as I know.
There are a few good sounding pilots for next year. So maybe it's not all hopeless. But it's horrible when you have a pet show and it gets murdered (Firefly and Boomtown were some of mine). So, sympathy. Posts: 1528 | Registered: Nov 2004
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IMO, Jericho was unwatchably bad for what could have been an awesome show. But then! That's just my opinion. I am annoyed at the cancellation of Studio 60.
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I haven't watched the first season of a show while on television in years. IMO, it's not worth the investment. I'd rather wait and hear that something's really good and then check it out on DVD, knowing full well whether it has another season or not.
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I'm annoyed that they cancelled Studio 60 too.
I decided after they cancelled 3 lbs. that I'm not investing myself in new shows anymore. I'll wait for the first season to pass.
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Studio 60 cancelled? That was a very funny show.
edit: Wait, I knew Studio 60 was gone. I was mixing it up with 30 Rock, I'm glad that got renewed at least. Posts: 6316 | Registered: Jun 2003
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I really liked the first two eps of Jericho, then I didn't like it any more. Sorry you liked it and they ended it prematurely, though.
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quote:When asked about the next season of Battlestar, Olmos had this to say, “This will probably be the most extraordinary season of Battlestar, it’s the final season so, it’s definitely going to be the most vicious.”
IESB: Final?
Olmos: You heard it first.
IESB: Are you serious?
Olmos: Very much so.
quote:IESB: Eddie just gave me some earth shattering news.
Katee: Hmmm.
IESB: It made me want to go inside and cry.
Katee: Did you hear that Battlestar might not go anymore?
IESB: What the [heck] is wrong, what’s going on?!
Katee: Yeah, this might be, this may be our last year. If Eddie is saying it, I guess I can repeat it.
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I was really surprised to hear ABC was cancelling the George Lopez show. Apparently, so was George. He's pretty upset. But it's a blog from the LA Times, so it's the family friendly version.
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I cruised over to the BSG website when I read that 4th season being the last possibility, and sci-fi hasn't anything posted about it. Which leads me to suspect that it might not be true. EJO has said things like that before.
Remember, they also lied about Starbuck.
Liars, all of them.
Though, when I thought about it, as much as I like BSG, I wouldn't mind if the fourth season was the last (I mean, I'd mind, but I wouldn't be Pissed Off). Why? Because it would end where it should and not try to stretch onward for one more season (TNG) though it had a good ending, or god forbid, two more seasons (X-Files) and have an ending that wasn't (thank YOU, Chris Carter).
There's a lot to appreciate in a show, especially a serialized drama, that ends when it should (when the story is told).
And I'm still bitter at Showtime for cancelling Dead Like Me.
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I loved Jerico, especially the second half of the year. This is really upsetting. There are very few shows I watch other than on cable, and Jerico was the only standard station series I watched for almost ten years.
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How much did each episode of Firefly cost to make? Because I'd be perfectly willing to dump cable and pay a buck or 2 per hour of show I watched - I'd almost certainly save money. Hell, I'd even let them throw in ads if they had to.
Drive averaged 5.6 million viewers an episode. Firefly is averaging something over 4 million per episode. If enough people wanted to watch at $1 per show, they might be able to release them in full-resolution over the internet. I don't know how much the distribution infrastructure would cost, so that would have to be factored in.
At present, I make a point of watching Sopranos. I would have watched Drive. In the past, there are usually 2-3 shows I want to see each new episode for: Buffy and Angel, Firefly (I caught on after it went off the air, but I'd be watching it now), ER at long time ago. I didn't watch BSG because I expected it to be yanked, and now I haven't caught up with it. Same with Drive.
Then there are the shows I'll catch if I think about it: the Good Eats, Law and Order, American Chopper, Family Guy, Simpsons, etc. I like them, but I'm basically admitting I have nothing better to do when I watch them. But if I knew I could get the shows I really wanted, I probably wouldn't bother making sure I had these available.
Is there a way to make show-level subscriptions viable?
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Jericho's cancelled? Darn, I made sure to watch every episode of that show. But I'm not too sorry it's gone; I kept watching, hoping we'd learn more about the specific motivations of the attackers, but we never learned much and what we did learn seemed to cast them as just generic power-hungry thugs.
I really hated it when they cancelled Alf, the sitcom about the alien that always wants to eat cats, with Alf getting caught by the Alien Task Force and the episode ending with "To Be Continued" (which episodes of that show almost never did).
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The only shows I watch on tv are 24, Lost, and Smallville. Everything else I wait for the dvds nowadays. Of course doing that take ratings away I guess, I would have watched Jericho on tv before Netflix.
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quote:When asked about the next season of Battlestar, Olmos had this to say, “This will probably be the most extraordinary season of Battlestar, it’s the final season so, it’s definitely going to be the most vicious.”
IESB: Final?
Olmos: You heard it first.
IESB: Are you serious?
Olmos: Very much so.
quote:IESB: Eddie just gave me some earth shattering news.
Katee: Hmmm.
IESB: It made me want to go inside and cry.
Katee: Did you hear that Battlestar might not go anymore?
IESB: What the [heck] is wrong, what’s going on?!
Katee: Yeah, this might be, this may be our last year. If Eddie is saying it, I guess I can repeat it.
David Eick has denied this. We still have hope for more. linkPosts: 1336 | Registered: Mar 2002
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The key is to just ignore as much as discussion and news coverage as you can, but still get enough exposure that you know what's good (or get recommendations from friends) and then watch serials on DVD.
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My problem with most serials on tv is that the serial nature of the programs is just a ratings gimmick. I tried following Lost, and its lack of willingness to reveal anything said to me that the writers were pulling our chain. With "24", the episodes may be directly connected, but there's never any fulfilling continuity because the writers make up the plot as they go along--they even admitted to this. No wonder the show feels so random in its developments!
My only experience with what I consider "real" serials on tv are Babylon 5 and The Wire on HBO. The former because a complete story--with a beginning, middle, and end--is related in the first four seasons, the latter because each season consists of one story with every side plot contributing to the whole. Everything gels. With 12 or so episode seasons, nothing feels extraneous or pointless.
And Joss Whedon's Firefly deserves a mention. There were many hints it would've been an excellent serial. In fact, that was the only thing that was unfortunate about the movie--how much richer it would've been if its developments happened within a season of the show, as Whedon planned.
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I watched a little AD but was not blown away by it. I was starting to get into it when they cancelled it. Such is life.
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Already? Hasn't only an episode or two aired?
Edit to add: And this is exactly why I now refuse to watch new shows. Studios only air four episodes, and then it's sink or swim time. Sorry, but I'm done with investing myself in shows that the studios themselves have no investment in. If they can't come up with more than breadcrumbs for me, I'm not giving them my time only to be disappointed again and again.
Television is fatally flawed, and I'm content to let it die as is. I think more creators of shows should just go independent and release their own shows via the internet and via separate partnerships with cable providers, and sell their own DVDs, they can charge on a per episode basis, and even toss in a commercial every now and then like on NBC.com where one company sponsors the whole episode. They could show the first few episodes for free then charge a dollar or two for every episode afterwards.
On one hand, it would rankle me to pay 20-40 dollars for a season and then pay it AGAIN for the season on DVD, but hell, I already do that in paying my cable bill every month, so why would this bother me? I barely watch that much TV anymore, just reruns of old TV shows, and bits of History Channel and Comedy Central.
If I could pay for JUST four or five channels on an a la carte basis and then pay per episode of other shows, I'd be much happier, and I'd probably save money too. I think the quality of television, and the satisfaction of viewers would increase immensely, and I think Firefly would be alive and humming, among other shows.
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On a semi-related note, I might actually watch Survivor: Rhode Island.
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And yes, Drive got canceled after four episodes. The last two filmed are supposed to air on the Fourth of July.
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I'd be more interested in something like Survivor: Compton.
In all honesty, I'd like to see Survivor: Alaska or Survivor: Yukon. I'm sick of the island destinations or the hot places in general. It's only like that so semi or fully attractive people can walk around in as little clothing as possible.
I know colder weather is totally different, and has different risks, but it doesn't necessarily have to even be in the winter, it can be in the summer, just in a more forested location. Anything but in the sand somewhere.
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quote:And I'm still bitter at Showtime for cancelling Dead Like Me.
My brother happened upon a season of DVDs and we love it. Although, my favorite part is still staring at Rube for a while and saying "Is that really Inigo Montoya?"
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quote:Originally posted by Stephan: The only shows I watch on tv are 24, Lost, and Smallville. Everything else I wait for the dvds nowadays. Of course doing that take ratings away I guess, I would have watched Jericho on tv before Netflix.
Smallville Spoiler involving last night's episode follows:
Too bad about Jericho being cancelled. Wouldn't it be funny if Smallville were cancelled--now that Lana Lang, Chloe Sullivan, and Lionel Luthor have all been killed off, and Lois Lane has been miraculously returned to life (at the cost of Chloe's life)? It was a neat wrinkle that Martha Kent left the farm before Clark did--going to Washington to serve as Senator. In the parlance of TV series, this is called "Jumping the Shark," where they have such radical changes that they virtually invite an end to the series.
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quote:Originally posted by Stephan: The only shows I watch on tv are 24, Lost, and Smallville. Everything else I wait for the dvds nowadays. Of course doing that take ratings away I guess, I would have watched Jericho on tv before Netflix.
Smallville Spoiler involving last night's episode follows:
Too bad about Jericho being cancelled. Wouldn't it be funny if Smallville were cancelled--now that Lana Lang, Chloe Sullivan, and Lionel Luthor have all been killed off, and Lois Lane has been miraculously returned to life (at the cost of Chloe's life)? It was a neat wrinkle that Martha Kent left the farm before Clark did--going to Washington to serve as Senator. In the parlance of TV series, this is called "Jumping the Shark," where they have such radical changes that they virtually invite an end to the series.
You have just empowered me with unbelievable power over Mrs. BB I can threaten to leek this information to her as she can't catch the episodes on TV and has to wait for DVDs.
Hoo hoo hoo, I can't wait until I get home today.
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I guess I'm just mad at how stupid Network executives seemingly are.Before they sent Jericho on it's long and wasteful hiatus it was getting rating around about 11 million. In it's time slot they put a show called Armed and fabulous, a show that got terrible ratings and was yanked after two epidsodes. When it got back it only got 8 million or so viewers per episode. The same thing happened to Hereos, millions of viewers were lost in the wait for the show to return. Show of this nature cannot afford that sort of interruption.
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To tell the truth, the serial craze currently flying through television is, again, just a craze. It isn't a revolution in which truly great new programming appears, though there does seem to be better programming on than there was during the Hell of Reality TV which is still not totally over.
Unfortunately, when you have anything good like some serial tv shows, you get bad copycats and generic stories.
I think television has a potential that no other current artform has:
It is the perfect medium for the modern epic.
By this, I mean the long, episodic adventures in the build of the Odyssey.
You can create, potentially, the greatest stories of the modern age on television. Unfortunately, it doesn't normally happen, they rarely succeed in doing it. Battlestar Galactica is close, and is one of the best shows I've ever seen, but it's still possible, I think, to do it with even less noise than that show has (if the networks wouldn't demand things like stand-alone episodes, which are not BSG's strongpoint at all. At least they've backed off for the fourth season!)
Really, I think television has the potential to be the best. But only if the people making it tell a GOOD story. When you have to wait a week every episode for 44 minutes of story, it should be good, and furthermore, it should reveal things. It shouldn't drag things on forever, it needs DEVELOPMENT.
A good television series is and should be made the way you make any good story: beginning, middle, end. Dragging things on, not revealing things, etc, just doesn't work with that sort of thing. Just like a scene or sequence, an episode needs to move the story forward, or else it's as useless to the series as a scene that doesn't move the story forward is to a movie.
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Already? Hasn't only an episode or two aired?
Edit to add: And this is exactly why I now refuse to watch new shows. Studios only air four episodes, and then it's sink or swim time. Sorry, but I'm done with investing myself in shows that the studios themselves have no investment in. If they can't come up with more than breadcrumbs for me, I'm not giving them my time only to be disappointed again and again.
Television is fatally flawed, and I'm content to let it die as is. I think more creators of shows should just go independent and release their own shows via the internet and via separate partnerships with cable providers, and sell their own DVDs, they can charge on a per episode basis, and even toss in a commercial every now and then like on NBC.com where one company sponsors the whole episode. They could show the first few episodes for free then charge a dollar or two for every episode afterwards.
On one hand, it would rankle me to pay 20-40 dollars for a season and then pay it AGAIN for the season on DVD, but hell, I already do that in paying my cable bill every month, so why would this bother me? I barely watch that much TV anymore, just reruns of old TV shows, and bits of History Channel and Comedy Central.
If I could pay for JUST four or five channels on an a la carte basis and then pay per episode of other shows, I'd be much happier, and I'd probably save money too. I think the quality of television, and the satisfaction of viewers would increase immensely, and I think Firefly would be alive and humming, among other shows.
Right on! Television as we know it is a dinosaur. That's why on-demand services through cable and satellite services and the availability of television shows through the internet is popular now.
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Well what do you know...I wasn't the only fan of Jericho after all. In fact people were so angry they went nuts, then sent around 2 tons of nuts to CBS in protest. Nuts For Jericho
For those who aren't fans of the show nuts is in reference to a rallying cry from the show. And...to my surprise it may have actually worked. CBS is in talks to bring back the show for 8 more episodes. TVguide
The letters, the emails, the 2 tons of nuts. And it may have worked.
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I tried to watch Jericho. I honestly did. I disliked it very much. I like it more than Spiderman 3, though.
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My brother was furious when Jericho was cancelled.
I was one of those people who watched the first half then didn't watch it when it came back. After EVERY show had a midseason break, I got used to not watching television and I only watched Heroes and NCIS when all the shows came back after December's break.
And I don't miss any of them.
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