Topic: You and your new computers... well I'm catching up!!
Blayne Bradley
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Today shall be the day, to be forever remembered in the history of Blayne's Gaming habits. New 500 GB Hard drive bwam!!
No more shall I go *sigh* when I need to install that new game but find out that I lack the necessary space, no more will I lay awake at night fearing my computer crashing and not turning back on due to hard drive boot failure. No more shall I be left behind in other people's DUST AND FORCED TO EAT IT!!!
No more, no... more, NO MORE! Now, I am one step closer to having an up-to-date-state-of-the-art-why-am-I-using-so-many-minus-signs-help-me-!-!-!-Machine!
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Yay, new hard drive, woo-hoo.
Now I just need another billion things to get.
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Maybe you might be better off focusing on saving up enough money to move out of your parents' house.
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Blayne Bradley
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I get an 8000$ inheritence in a year I'm not that worried, oh and a 40k/year job if all is moderately well and good.
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Blayne, in all seriousness: what makes you think you'll have a $40k job in a year?
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Blayne Bradley
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one of my teachers showed us the list of the common jobs available upon completing stage and their related salaries, and it can go up to 90,000 a year in some cases and as low as 30,000 40 seems to be a good average of all the difference kind of IT jobs availiable upon graduating.
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Do you actually have any experience in IT outside of fixing your own borked up rig? Cause if you don't, I very very very seriously doubt you'll be pulling down 40,000 a year. That is, unless you happen to have lots of really good connections.
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I'm currently working for significantly less than 30,000 per year, in an IT-related field. This is my first IT-related job, too.
Blayne, I hope you have a part-time job that's giving you experience, because if you don't have experience, your odds of getting a good-paying job are slim.
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Blayne, when do you expect that job? We'll likely be in recession within a couple of years and IT staff are the first to be told to go away.
Depending on where you live, I think you can hope for a 20k-40k job. If you're lucky enough to get one. But the 40k would only be in NYC or the SF bay area. Do you have any degrees or professional certifications?
You really should be worrying a lot more than you are.
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Refraining from commenting on him specifically, job prospects for decent programmers are strong right now. It is pretty typical for a graduate from IU's Informatics or CS program who has completed an internship or large capstone project to receive a salary of $30k to $60k as a programmer, with the average falling somewhere between forty and forty five thousand dollars. This includes plenty of areas with lower cost of living than NYC or SF Bay.
Heck, if all you want is a high salary and are willing to move, almost any recent graduate who can demonstrate good problem solving skills (no programming experience necessary) or decent programming ability can get hired by Epic, up in Madison. They start recent college grads at forty to fifty five thousand dollars and hire tons of people. Madison isn't exactly a high cost of living location, either.
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$40K isn't too far out there, but it's by no means guaranteed. A lot will depend not only on your experience, but on how well you interview. The best thing you can have going for you is an advocate inside the company you are trying to get hired at. My brother-in-law, who had a pretty crappy resume and was not a college graduate, started at $50K+ as a QA guy at the company I work for based on my recommendation.
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quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: $40K in Canada... that's like seven figures U.S., isn't it?
Um, at the moment the exchange rate is about 1:1. And if you're thinking about when the Canadian dollar was worth substantially less than the American dollar, then you've got it backwards.
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quote:Heck, if all you want is a high salary and are willing to move, almost any recent graduate who can demonstrate good problem solving skills (no programming experience necessary) or decent programming ability can get hired by Epic, up in Madison.
I've done contract work for Epic and have several friends who work there.
In a nutshell: don't. The original ten or twelve people who started out with them are treated very well; everyone else is cattle. It's a miserable environment. Avoid.
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quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: $40K in Canada... that's like seven figures U.S., isn't it?
Um, at the moment the exchange rate is about 1:1. And if you're thinking about when the Canadian dollar was worth substantially less than the American dollar, then you've got it backwards.
You should know when to not take me seriously by now.
quote:Heck, if all you want is a high salary and are willing to move, almost any recent graduate who can demonstrate good problem solving skills (no programming experience necessary) or decent programming ability can get hired by Epic, up in Madison.
I didn't notice this... Madison, Wisconsin? Raven Software is there, too, and I know quite a few people there. I would be working there myself if it... well... wasn't in Wisconsin.
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Some people disagree, Tom. My sister, who's being well-paid, including with substantial bonuses, is not being called to work significant overtime, and finds the work environment enjoyable, flexible, and fun (the themed tunnels between buildings she seems to particularly enjoy). She's not a developer, but she does a lot of programming, including on-site with clients (her title is Problem Solver).
Also, even if the work conditions were unpleasant, some people are willing to trade higher salaries for that. There are certainly people working far more unpleasant jobs in the US for far less.
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I'm pretty sure Epic is just across town from me, not halfway across the country. I used to live three houses down from Tim Sweeney.
EDIT: Wrong Epic. I was thinking about the one that Blayne would enjoy working for. Incidentally, they're hiring too.
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quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: I didn't notice this... Madison, Wisconsin? Raven Software is there, too, and I know quite a few people there. I would be working there myself if it... well... wasn't in Wisconsin.
Pfft. And Florida is somehow better?
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Makes me feel like I'm earning even less. My salary is public information. I'll just go ahead and throw out for Blayne:
Blayne, I'm working as a web developer (and general IT guy) at a Community College, and my salary is $27,648. No significant raises are likely for me. Yep, that gets published in the papers...
(I hope that doesn't make anyone uncomfortable, knowing this. It doesn't bother me; it's published fact, I saw it myself in the newspaper.)
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quote:Also, even if the work conditions were unpleasant, some people are willing to trade higher salaries for that.
Oh, no argument there. I'm just saying that if you don't want to be a cattle coder, Epic is probably not a good choice unless you're willing to trade pleasantness for salary.
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Tstorm: academic salaries are generally pretty bad, though they often have positive tradeoffs such as better benefits, more flexible hours, and/or more interesting work.
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quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: Why, yes it is! I'd post pics, but they'd violate forum policy.
Clearly you are blinded by your life in Miami. There are beautiful women in Wisconsin-- many of them with the same physique as Miami models, but there's also something to be said for the curviness of our Nordic heritage.
Not to mention the spätzel!
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But you see, here they roam around as such in public. They're not wearing eighteen layers of wool to avoid freezing to death.
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I'll take pale women with plenty of clothing to leave a lot to my imagination any day. Hooray for the frozen wastelands of the North!
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quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: But you see, here they roam around as such in public. They're not wearing eighteen layers of wool to avoid freezing to death.
All the better! The highter the difficulty in removing said articles of clothing, the greater the anticipation!
You've obviously never cuddled with someone in a cold room under deep layers of blankets.
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quote:Originally posted by NotMe: I'm pretty sure Epic is just across town from me, not halfway across the country. I used to live three houses down from Tim Sweeney.
EDIT: Wrong Epic. I was thinking about the one that Blayne would enjoy working for. Incidentally, they're hiring too.
That's the Epic I always think of when I hear people talking about the other Epic.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: I get an 8000$ inheritence in a year I'm not that worried, oh and a 40k/year job if all is moderately well and good.
First of all bravo on your spelling and syntax. That will help you.
Second of all, please start worrying. Nothing you've said here has ever indicated that things generally go "well and good" for you, especially when it comes to jobs and commitments. A year or so ago you were saying that getting a job was impossible, iirc, and that you could barely be employed at a coffee shop. I see some improvement since then, but not something that's going to boost you from 10k a year to 40k.
I don't even expect to make that much, and I am older and have more education than you, not to mention over 6 years of work experience. I know that sounds terrible for me to say, but I don't find my CV to be terribly impressive, and if I worry, I think you should too.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: I don't even expect to make that much, and I am older and have more education than you, not to mention over 6 years of work experience. I know that sounds terrible for me to say, but I don't find my CV to be terribly impressive, and if I worry, I think you should too.
Aren't you majoring in music?
'Cause, well, CS is just a bit more employable.
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I think 40K entry level might be slightly high but not terribly for what Blayne is talking about. Nearly 7 years ago, after finishing a similar program to what it sounds like Blayne is talking about I took an entry level position that payed just shy of that after my evaluation period. Also, remember that we pay much higher taxes here so that amount isn't nearly as impressive as it might seem.
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