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krynn
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My friend and I want to play an online game together at the same house, but we cant both be on the same server with the same IP or port or whatever. any fix to this? if so could you link me to an online guide or anything please? TIA
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You are both going to appear to the server on the other end of your router as being on the same IP. You'd have to get your service provider to allocate two IPs to you in order to present two separate IPs to an external server. That will likely cost money and, perhaps, a service call.
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krynn
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really? there is no way around this? no way to change stuff with our router or anything to let us both on the same server? i would hav ethought people would have thought of this and had a fix after all these years of online gaming.
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With most broadband providers only one IP address is supported by default. You can sort of imagine an IP as being equivalent to a physical phone line. If you plug two phones into the same line, you can't make two simultaneous phone calls. You have to get a second line installed. You've got the same problem with IPs - if you've got one IP and the game server you are talking to only differentiates based on IP (which I think is standard) then there is no way for it to tell your computers apart without your ISP giving you a second IP.

Technically, the IP that goes out to the game server isn't even the IP of any of your computers - it's the IP of your router or of another router upstream of yours. Your router does some magic to allow multiple machines to, say, browse different web sites without their traffic getting mixed up, but anything that relies on an IP being a unique identifier for your PC is not going to work for more than one PC.

What game are you attempting to play?

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krynn
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Team Fortress 2

I understand what you are saying though. From that perspective it makes sense. My friend next to me says he found what he thinks is a way to do it. From what I've glanced over at, it involves some seriously long directions and craziness. I hope it works even though according to you it wont. Oh well.

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Do you have a link to the solution he found?
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Maybe you could ask Valve to let you both play on the same IP?
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i dont think valve wants us to use the way we got it to work. it's called port forwarding. long process, but it works.
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Sorry Guys. I'm going to step in here and correct some of you. It's not the IP that you need to be unique. It's the cdkey.

Valve won't let two people using the same cdkey play on Steam at any time.
You have to purchase another copy of Team Fortress 2.

Portforwarding has nothing to do with it.

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If they got it working then apparently they already have two CD keys. If they had both keys when they were having trouble, then the CD keys were not the problem .
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krynn
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lanfear, all 3 of us have genuine copies of TF2. The problem was just as MattP said it was with the IP. Port Fowarding worked to let us all on at the same time on the same server.
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oh. my bad then.
All the games i've ever played let the same ip on the same server.

portforwarding just routes the traffic to a specific computer.

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