Not every day you get a signed letter from a head of state, our family has only gotten one from...... Pierre Eliot Trudeau (my dad painted a portrait of him and his children) and Jean Chretien before this.
Now the collection makes three
*crosses fingers* C'mon, thats Canada 2 and US 1, I am waiting on YOU Mr Carter. */crosses fingers*
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I thought I remembered his signature being a bit more elaborate than just that. Maybe he has arthritis lol.
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Boy: That doesn't look exactly like the signature on Blayne's letter.
Well I can't verify whether the image I linked is the stamp or his actual hand. You could google Clinton Signature on google images and get MANY examples.
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Also my younger brother got a letter from Barack Obama, although my brother pretended to be an Illinois native to get it
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American political fanboy? Just a matter of time before you guys become the 51st state. I always thought the Maple Leaf would make a nice state flag. Posts: 21898 | Registered: Nov 2004
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However, California would still remain the largest state Posts: 1327 | Registered: Aug 2007
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He was doing some sort of amnesty international work thingy for his campaign or something or other and only qualifies if hes a native of Illinois.
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Canada is larger then california is it not?
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I never understood all this talk of "fifty-first state." Do we really want one state that's larger than all the others combined, with a population of over 30 million? I think it'd make a lot more sense to admit each province as a state, or better yet, to carve it up into more manageable pieces.
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When we ACTUALLY annex Canada I'm betting they'll be admitted by province. Aren't most of the more populated territories or provinces, whatever they are called, pretty much the size of Alaska. I know a few of them are considerably smaller.
As an aside, There are only 30 million people in Canada? For some reason I was thinking BC, Ontario and Quebec were a lot more populated than that.
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They'd probably either be admitted in their current state (as I imagine would be BC, Ontario and the smaller provinces), or they'd go independent.
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Well, with the narrow victories between democrats and republicans, it would be somewhat helpful for Canadians to guarantee that no Republican ever gets elected to office again by voting democrat en masse.
Not worth the sacrifice mind you, but interesting.
(and no, our Albertan dominated conservatives are still closer to the right wing of the democrats rather than the left wing of the republicans)
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quote:Somehow I don't think Quebec would take being a small portion of a state very well.
Somehow, I don't think Canada would take being part of the US very well either, so it's a moot point .
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: Well, with the narrow victories between democrats and republicans, it would be somewhat helpful for Canadians to guarantee that no Republican ever gets elected to office again by voting democrat en masse.
You're assuming that Canadians will be granted suffrage.
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Without repealing several of the amendments to the constitution, or adding one very specific one, if they were to be admitted as states, I don't see how they wouldn't have suffrage.
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I thought this would be interesting. Someone superimposed the positions of the US candidates from the primaries with the positions of our political parties during the last federal election (as computed from the rather ubiquitous political compass site). The result clearly demonstrates what I'm referring to.
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Mucus: I love how the creator of that graph ignores that the only two parties with anywhere near the clout to form the basis of a gov't are extremely close together in Canada, and closer together on that scale than the centers of the Democrat and Republican presidential candidate groupings.
Not that the methodology is sound enough to support much in the way of conclusions at all, but if one is going to draw any conclusions . . .
I do not think it is very likely that Canada will become part of the US anytime in the next several hundred years.
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Several hundred years? I'm confidant that the concept of a nation as we know it will be obsolete within several hundred years.
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fugu13: Thats not really comparable for two reasons.
First, the superimposition is done between Canadian political parties as a whole and presidential candidates. Thus, while thats useful to judge the relative position of the parties, it is not too useful to compare the relative size of each blob. That is why he does not make that comparison between the two countries, and only between the two US parties. I'm sure that if you did a Liberal blob including Bob Rae, Dion, Ignatieff, etc. and a Conservative blob with their candidates the results it would be more comparable. The conservatives would be even more spread apart due to their Progressive Conservative and Reform elements. That said, they'd still be somewhat closer because of my second reason.
Second, you're dismissing the Bloc and NDP relatively quickly. While they do not have the clout to form the federal government, they both still wield a significant amount of power that is unparallelled for third parties in the current US system. The last minority government rested on a razor-thin edge and relied upon the support of elements from both their parties. Trudeau had to make significant concessions to the NDP to remain in power and so did the Paul Martin. Also, the Bloc and NDP's provincial counterparts do regularly form provincial governments. With this sort of dynamic, the size of the liberal left-wing is necessarily limited to avoid confusion/overlap with the three other left-wing parties. The US political system encourages the expression of diverse political views within the "big tent" of the political parties. The Canadian system tends to encourage the formation of new parties to express radical ideas.
So no, I don't think you can really draw the conclusion that the Canadian political spectrum is more limited than in the US and I primarily brought up the chart to demonstrate that our parties are significantly to the left of the States, which is a conclusion that can be drawn.
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NDP for the win! I voted for them. Too bad my vote was wasted being since I lived in a Bloc community.
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Without repealing several of the amendments to the constitution, or adding one very specific one, if they were to be admitted as states, I don't see how they wouldn't have suffrage.
Yes, but we're talking about annexing Canada. If we're going to be ridiculous, why not go all the way?
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Without repealing several of the amendments to the constitution, or adding one very specific one, if they were to be admitted as states, I don't see how they wouldn't have suffrage.
Yes, but we're talking about annexing Canada. If we're going to be ridiculous, why not go all the way?
lol, good point.
I think it's far more likely that the US and Canada will come to some sort of greater cooperative framework, but I don't see one joining the other that plainly.
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