Basically if I'm reading this write, they took out the one feature that maybe would've gotten me to play. Cooperative Bridge crews, basically you and say 5 friends could compose the Bridge each player taking care of a different function of the ship.
It appears they took this out and replaced with "customizable" ai's.
*shrug* another game I won't be playing.
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It's a neat idea, but I wouldn't make an MMO around it. What do you do with yourself as a captain when your weapons officer has a sick kid, your communications officer is out of town for the weekend, and your science officer has decided three weeks into play that no, actually, he just isn't into the game? Fill them with AI? Let any random player fill the slot and discover that LOLph3ar979 thinks that launching a photon torpedo spread at the station you're supposed to be protecting is high comedy? I agree that the ST:O they're building doesn't sound all that interesting at first gasp (and rather sounds like "player as starship"), but I can't imagine trying to make a profit-driven game around the individual-players-as-individual-officers model, either. There's just too much potential for frustrating players and driving them away in a genre that depends on people making a long-term time investment.
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Those are possibilities and technical restrictions not nessasarily game breakers, ultimately to compete with WoW's market share I believe that a MMO HAS to break from the mold to be successful by being innovative and creative and not just copy and paste everything WoW does, glue on a few extra bits and call it "The-Next-Big-Thing" *cough Tabula Rasa cough*
What I Liked about Star Trek and what every single one of my friends liked about Star Trek was the adventure and many of us at least once liked and entertained the idea that we could be the Captain or the crew member serving on a ship exploring strange new worlds going boldly where no one has gone before, the original concept for Star Trek Online, doing just that would have sold us.
As it is now Star Trek Online is simply instead of being "Just-Another-WoW-Clone" to "Attempting-to-be-an-EVE-Online-clone".
If I want the experience of EVE-Online then I will by golly play EVE Online, why play another game when the original already got it right the first time?
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Those are possibilities and technical restrictions not nessasarily game breakers, ultimately to compete with WoW's market share [...]
Therein lays the path to ruin of a fair amount of MMOs. WoW is an aberration.
And anyway, to have multiple player bridges would reduce this games user base far more than not, since only those that have the ability to put in copious amounts of time into being logged in will be successful.
Think about it Blayne. If I can only play 5-8 hours a week, why should I bother with your version of STO? There's no way I can compete with people with more time, and in all likelihood no one would want me on their crew without more dedication. It's why some competitive guilds, even in WoW, kick people out. The idea is if you aren't contributing enough, you are dead weight.
And if it could be a more casual Eve clone, I'd be interested in it far more than Eve (which I have played a bit).
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EVE is "casual" since you don't need to play to advanced, you only need to play to make the ingame currency.
Currently with STO going the mainstream route I'm looking far more optimistically for Infinity Quest for Earth. It will be the best sci fi game ever, I will still play EVE especially if Infinity remains free or very cheap.
Imagine a game where the entire Universe is there waiting to be explored.
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Eve is not, if you want to actually play the find part (corp warfare) vs. grind. Or really partake in the deep economic/industrial game.
Now on the other hand, you could look at Eve as requiring you to pay 6-12 months of the monthly fee up front in order to get your skills to a place where you can meaningfully interact with the game world.
Unless you think everyone should just do zerg/GoonSwarm tactics that time (which can be fun, but I don't think you can reach the mass market that way).
Blayne, you should read (not post to, just read) f13.net. They are ornery jerks who will ban you without a moment of remorse if you get into a flame war, but they are all MMO vets (and some devs!) and have some great and varied insights. Heck, One of the mods got annoyed at me adding "-Bok" at the end of messages, like I do elsewhere, so they converted that sequence of characters into a self-aggrandizing message on post I got over it.
It isn't for the thin skinned though. --
Essentiall, Blayne, what I'm saying is that you have a warped sense of what "casual" really means. As a hardcore gamer (which is cool), you don't really have the perspective. You aren't alone in that regard either, btw.
If you think that is cool, check out Wurm Online. You start with your bare hands, and the shirt on your back. You want to live, you best start learning how to chop firewood and use flint, because if you don't eat you will die.
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ST:O has an enormous potential audience from the get-go, but an awful lot of that audience will bolt if the game (or the portion of it they want to play) isn't immediately engaging. You don't have a whole lot of time to re-think the mechanics if everyone decides that being communications officer is boring. You could end up with an enormous overhead for network space and upkeep for the initial rush that ends up wasted when people drop out three weeks in after finding thousands of engineers and security officers and only a handful of science officers or medical officers.
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quote: If you think that is cool, check out Wurm Online. You start with your bare hands, and the shirt on your back. You want to live, you best start learning how to chop firewood and use flint, because if you don't eat you will die.
-Bok
0.o waaaaait something is suspicious here, your trying to get me to go outside aren't you? I see right through you!
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