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Blayne Bradley
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Basically I was at school and didn't come back home until 11:10 ish. I come home and find out that we were robbed out of Holden's laptop and my PS3 nothing else as they were in a "hurry".

Basically my roommate let some "friends" in who when Holden was otherwise distracted unlocked the door let in "non friends" in who took what wasn't bolted down or difficult to get at and ran off.

They were friends of a friend who owed me a favor for fixing his computer so he called them up and forced them to return our stuff as best as we can tell its ours in return for not making a scene or calling the police.
Only thing I don't think they returned "yet" was the PS3 control.

First thing tomorrow morning we're getting homeowners insurence and yeah, no more strange people we don't know coming over.

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Call the police.
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Um, yeah. you know who did it? Report it.
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That is so ridiculous.
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I don't know who did it, all I know is we have a friend who knows who did it, and my roommate is being an IDIOT and being intentionally oblivious and not finding out to "not cause a scene" this is a bad neighbourhood.

Still haven't got back the ps3 controller and hes being an idiot going "I don't wanna press our luck. worst case I'll replace it for you". The problem he doesn't realize that know they'll be like "yo my man, we can steal their sh*t and only give back some ov it mon, and wez can keep the rest yo, they crackers yo."

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Wow. That was racist.

I no longer feel bad for you.

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whatever you think of Blayne's personal characteristics no one deserves to have their property stolen.
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Call the police.

Personally I would also start considering where I would be moving since I wouldn't keep living with people like your apparently currently living with.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shanna:
Wow. That was racist.

I no longer feel bad for you.

Yes well, you would feel that to if this had happened to you, at least for a little while.
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Call the police.

Personally I would also start considering where I would be moving since I wouldn't keep living with people like your apparently currently living with.

We have a lease/contract thingy for the next year or so.
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Yes well, you would feel that to if this had happened to you, at least for a little while.
Umm...no. Course I'd be ticked but I would certainly not respond in that way.

Your friend has *profane expletive* friends and you already have everything back except a video game controller. I fail to see the huge tragedy.

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You know, first day I moved in to my place on campus, that night some folks from the nearby crackhouse (that's what the policeman called it) kicked in our door and stole most of my stuff, none of which I've seen since.

And yet, oddly enough, I didn't feel the need to go racist over it.

You lost a game controller. Tough. Jeez.

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Blayne Bradley
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So if I walked to your home, stole your car, drove it around and only gave it back the avoid the possible involvement of police and neglect to return the car cd player you think this is a perfectly alright situation?

Next what makes you think I'm talking about black people? Even white around here talk in Eubonics.

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You know, first day I moved in to my place on campus, that night some folks from the nearby crackhouse (that's what the policeman called it) kicked in our door and stole most of my stuff, none of which I've seen since.

And yet, oddly enough, I didn't feel the need to go racist over it.

You lost a game controller. Tough. Jeez.

This doesn't magically become a case of borrowing-without-asking from strangers just because they gave it back.

Your local police officers were obviously incompetant if they couldn't even get it back from the usual suspects.

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"Borrowing with asking" is not an "alright" situation. I'm simply saying that your response was inappropriate. Calling the police and having a good long talk with your roommate about guests would be appropriate. Throwing out speech typical of what one would use to stereotype African-Americans, complete with the word "cracker," is not an appropriate reaction regardless of whether you got your video game system back or not.
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undoubtably, but it should be nonetheless be understood an understandable reaction to one's stuff being stolen. Note that the friend who arranged to get back the stuff was a blond white kid so...
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Deriding a ridiculous and grammatically offensive way of speaking is not being racist. Anyone who thinks Blayne's comments were racist needs to seriously rejigger their Political Correctness meter.

There's a huge difference between mocking/criticizing/etc a race and doing the same to a particular ridiculous subculture that happens to have some ties to a race.

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Personally I always visualize bad guys as being from East London. "Oy, there ain't no need to get heavy with a geezer mate."
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Originally posted by Orincoro:
Personally I always visualize bad guys as being from East London. "Oy, there ain't no need to get heavy with a geezer mate."

My British pal over Teamspeak has the same reactions as I expressed here, you can't even withdraw money from an ATM machine alone, you have to go in groups or you'll you get jacked by the ripper mate.
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And what Dan said, I'm not mocking them because of their race, afterall I'm not a racist individual and hold no special place in my heart for one ethnic group over another (okay i can't say that with a straight face, "China will grow larger" [Smile] ) but I'm not mocking them because of their race (white or black) I'm mocking them for their pretentiousness (can't think of a better word).
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quote:
Originally posted by Shanna:
Wow. That was racist.

I literally thought these exact words when I read the post above, and snorted with amusement when I scrolled down and saw them half a second after thinking them.

I still feel for you though, Blayne. I hate that some people just think that they can do whatever they want and don't care about who they hurt. I say call the police. Sounds to me like your roommate is either afraid of retaliation or just not looking cool. Either way it just makes him look like their b*tch (no offense), and as you said, it just lets the perpetrators continue to think that they can do this sort or thing with no consequences.

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Blayne Bradley
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I dunno, everytime I reread it I grin and laugh a little, its seems funny at least to me on rereading.

Neo, just to clarify you thought of the words that I posted or thought of the words Shanna said?

My roommate is "le tired" I'll be talking with his mother and him about it tomorrow. Now if the controller turns up still call or call anyways?

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Shoot. I'm in the middle of moving my things to a dorm room on campus, and I left some of it (clothing, some books, sheets, a trashcan, a microwave) there before driving the 25 miles back home for work. So, now I'm at home, with some of that stuff over there.

At least the things that'd cost a lot to replace aren't there, and most people probably wouldn't steal just clothes or random, non-school related books.

Still. I feel nervous all of the sudden...

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I thought of Shanna's words. What you said did come across as quite racist, but I know that people don't always mean what they say when they're upset... Cracker. [Wink]
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Honkey. That'd be a more appropriate one. Honkey, not Cracker. ^_^
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Blayne Bradley
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Eh, leave us old decent simple folks alone darn fool.
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Hmm, my roommate says he's afraid of retaliation that they'll break in and steal our TV as we "can't prove anything" and will sell the TV within ten minutes of stealing it and leave no evidence. Now, as much as I am with kicking ass it doesn't strike me as common sense to call the police if its only going to end up costing us more, and if they stole my computer with my months of hardwork and no reliable means of backing up 400 gb's of work I'll be set back months.
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How about new locks? And, you know, not letting people in in your absence?
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How about new locks? And, you know, not letting people in in your absence?

They let themselves in when the roommate wasn't looking, our locks aren't compromised they don't have our keys. And while agreed to not let anyone in anymore there's still the issue that unfortunately our security is only as good as one's roommates vigilance, Thursday I came home with him at work and the door unlocked for god knows how long.
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Okay.

How about a lock on YOUR room that only you have a key to and keeping your stuff locked up when you're gone?

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Aha.
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And a new room mate.
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I have Ninja's already tasked for that.
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Your local police officers were obviously incompetant if they couldn't even get it back from the usual suspects.
It is not uncommon in this country for someone to not get his stolen stuff back, even if he knew who took it, when they took it, and even what they did with it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
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Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
How about new locks? And, you know, not letting people in in your absence?

They let themselves in when the roommate wasn't looking, our locks aren't compromised they don't have our keys. And while agreed to not let anyone in anymore there's still the issue that unfortunately our security is only as good as one's roommates vigilance, Thursday I came home with him at work and the door unlocked for god knows how long.
See, no matter what happens to blayne, he is not to blame in any remote degree. Not for choice of friends, or his choice of locks. This kind of thing could, after all, happen to anyone...
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Blayne Bradley
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I locked the door on my way out that morning, and I think its hardly "blamable" in having a roommate with the common sense of a lemming. When he pitched it to me I didn't know these things, and getting out of my home was top priorii.

The locks as I said aren't compromised, my roommate forgot to lock the door. Are you trying to spin this that its my fault for choosing him?

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quote:
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Call the police.

Personally I would also start considering where I would be moving since I wouldn't keep living with people like your apparently currently living with.

We have a lease/contract thingy for the next year or so.
Have you called the police yet? They're not friends if they steal from you. And if you can't go ahead and move (which is not unreasonable since you do have a lease) it would be best to have a report in if this happens again.
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yes but, we can't prove anything, and they could sell our stuff in 10 minutes and never be able to do anything about it.
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If you're worried about your comp, spend the fifteen, twenty bucks to get a security cable and padlock.
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I am, i sent an email to my dad to drive me to canadian tire.
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Just want to reiterate the advice earlier- PUT A GOOD LOCK ON YOUR DOOR!!!! Then, it does not matter what your roomie does or doesn't do. Your stuff is always safe.
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The problem he doesn't realize that know they'll be like "yo my man, we can steal their sh*t and only give back some ov it mon, and wez can keep the rest yo, they crackers yo."
I have a serious question for those of you whose first impression was 'Wow, that was racist." Can you explain why you find it racist? I'm having a hard time phrasing this in a way that doesn't sound like a rhetorical question, but if possible I'd really like to here your side.

From my perspective, Blayne didn't say anything about race. He seemed to be mocking these people based on their dialect and a culture that justifies steeling, neither of which are racial characteristics. In fact it was you who presumed based on his portrayal that the thieves belonged to a particular racial group. If he'd portrayed them speaking with a Mafioso accent aka Godfather, would you have though "Wow, what anti-Italian bigotry".

Since Blayne pretty much knows who the thieves are (or at least he knows what friends they run with), I presumed that his mockery was specific to this group and that they actually talk like that. From that perspective, it just isn't a racial slur of any kind.

So I'm curious to know what assumptions you made that make this a racial slur. Since there was more than one person who responded that way, I'm guessing there is a logical explanation and I'd really like to hear it.

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quote:
Originally posted by scholarette:
Just want to reiterate the advice earlier- PUT A GOOD LOCK ON YOUR DOOR!!!! Then, it does not matter what your roomie does or doesn't do. Your stuff is always safe.

If there is a window in that room, or any other entrance, it needs to be secured as well. This is harder than it looks.

If you have expensive things and live in an environment that isn't secure, then it is very difficult to make your part of it secure. This is another reaosn to talk with your local police. You do not have to press charges, but you can ask for an assessment of how you can help avoid this in the future.

If you do not have renter's insurance, you should. That is another place to ask for help with ensuring security.

Good luck.

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In fact it was you who presumed based on his portrayal that the thieves belonged to a particular racial group.
The last line, "they crackers yo".

Crackers is a slang word for whites by some blacks, sort of the reverse n-word. The statement at the end heavily implies that the speaker is a black person.

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Also, Find a way to back up your hard drive and keep the back up somewhere besides your apartment. Your computer can be replaced but the stuff on it is invaluable. You don't necessarily need to back up the full 400 GB. You don't need to back up software, that's replaceable. But you absolutely must back up your documents, the programs you've written.
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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
"yo my man, we can steal their sh*t and only give back some ov it mon, and wez can keep the rest yo, they crackers yo."

I really know about 5 white teenagers that don't speak like this, it seems anyone who thought it was inherently racist should look a little closer to home.
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I don't know any white teenagers who talk like that, so I guess our anecdotal evidence cancels out.


Given the use of the term "cracker", I don't think it is unreasonable to guess the speaker is black. Are there some white kids who would use the term that way? Yes. Is it far more common and likely to hear it spoken from a black teenager? Absolutely.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
"yo my man, we can steal their sh*t and only give back some ov it mon, and wez can keep the rest yo, they crackers yo."

I really know about 5 white teenagers that don't speak like this, it seems anyone who thought it was inherently racist should look a little closer to home.
There is a fairly popular white culture which acts identical to the 'black' culture that Blayne Described. I don't think what he said was meant as racist, but more as a way of making light of them specifically.

Since Blayne didn't mention race at all, I think it's just as much a possibility that the people Blayne is talking about are white as black. So, maybe, Shanna, it's your preconceptions that need rethought. Eh?

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quote:
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Given the use of the term "cracker", I don't think it is unreasonable to guess the speaker is black.

--ApostleRadio

I do think it is unreasonable.
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I call people saltines, and I look really white, I'm a reverse twinky.
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