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Boris
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I'm sure someone's posted it somewhere...But I started this thread so I could have lots of room to do this: *jumps up and down, does cartwheels, and runs around screaming WOOHOO!!!*

I came home from work today to find my Survival Edition of Fallout 3 sitting by the door. I promptly brought it inside and hunted for a knife to cut the box tape and unwrap my present like a giddy little kid on Christmas day. I opened my Vault-Tec(tm) Lunch Box and pulled out the game to install it. Re-assembled my Vault-Tec(tm) Vault Boy(tm) bobble head that had separated from its base, and opened the Vault-Tec(tm) Pip-Boy 3000(tm) Deluxe Chronometer(patent pending) and promptly discovered that you can actually *wear* the thing. I spent the next 3-4 minutes staring at my Deluxe Chronometer(patent pending) on my arm and giggling uncontrollably as the game finished installing.

I then dove headlong into the world of Fallout 3 and played happily for an hour or until...a crash? What? Drat...Started the game again and enjoyed a lovely 30 minute romp to Super Duper Mart(R) killing raiders and then got back to Megaton for...another crash...

At any rate, the game is really well done despite the crashes. Voice acting is phenomenal, graphics are awesome, combat is fun (and relatively difficult given the limited resources you have to start with), and the story, though I haven't gotten far into it, is definitely enticing. I'm sure this game is going to rob me of countless hours. Crashes and all.

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What system are you playing it on?

I ordered the PC version, but it won't arrive until about a week from now.

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Boris
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I've got it on PC. I think the crashes were due more to me having firefox open while playing than anything game related. The game works pretty well with everything closed (no more crashes)
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I would have gotten this for the PC but I needed a game to play on my Xbox whenever I don't have total control over the computer. [Wink]

*minor spoiler*
I'm a few hours in and I'm still in the first town just outside the vault, I've already made huge decisions that I regret and can't take back, gah!!!!

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Sure you can. I actually restarted at the Vault exit after about an hour in Megaton, because I wasn't happy with my SPECIAL ability score allocation. Of course, now I've semi-inadvertently obtained the bonus Dream Crusher perk for choosing dialogue options that weren't available to me with my original lower Charisma score...
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How many people here have played the original Fallouts? How does it compare to that versus comparing to Oblivion?

I'm pretty tempted to get this, but I would probably need to stop putting off upgrading from a single core processor to a dual-core. Also the reviews tend to say thats its more Oblivion with guns, with much less charm and humour than the originals.

I'll probably still get it at one point or another, but I need to figure out whether I should explicitly upgrade for it. (Or GTAIV for that matter)

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I haven't purchased Fallout 3 yet due to lack of funds, but I have played both the original Fallout, as well as Oblivion.

Once I've got it, I'll give a comparison.

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I played the origanal fallouts while i was waiting for this to come out, they are alot like the baldur gate games, except with guns. Anf this Fallout is alot like Oblivion, except with guns.( I almost forgot, there is also alot more humor, although it's normally very crude. I find it to be a plus.)

I have to say though, i would already say this game should be game of the year. I spent hours at the first town alone. BlackBlade i know what you mean, my friend had a run in with the law and can't go back without being shot at. He was very sad when he say all i did in that town.

Also, i heard that you can't kill children although they are present in the game, is that true?

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Mucus, the good thing about the game is that it is extremely faithful to the general look of the original Fallout games. It also takes the opportunity to expand on the little snippets of pre-war back story that you get in the older games. It definitely feels more oblivion than fallout gameplay-wise, but it does make up for it with an enveloping atmosphere.

There are upsides and downsides to how Bethesda designed the game, after all. The upside is that the atmosphere and depth can be brought out more from a first/third person perspective than from an isometric 100 feet above view. The downside is that you lose that tactical element that was so fun in Fallout.

And you are right. Much of the humor is either not there or is less noticeable. But I think that has a lot more to do with the fact that the medium has changed from the written word to the spoken word. In the original games, there were very few spoken lines. What there was was delivered perfectly. With the wealth of spoken dialogue in the new game, it becomes much more difficult to deliver jokes properly.

In my opinion, yes, it is basically Oblivion with guns, but it is in the world of Fallout which is much deeper and more involving than Oblivion could have hoped to be.

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x360 Any one of my friends could tell you just how long I have waited for the release of another fallout game.

I was euphoric as soon as I heard Ron Pearlmans voice at the beginning.

Geeking out aside, I still have yet to determine if the game will be as addicting to me now as the originals were back in the day.

Also I love that there is a tangible feeling of choice vs both immediate and eventual accountability in this game. That is something that Fallout 3 does more effectively than it's predecessors in my opinion.

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I have it on the 360 (I got a leaked copy but I purchased the game as well so I don't feel TOTALLY bad for downloading it). I spent a good part of my weekend going through it.


My biggest worry going into it was that it would not have the same feel as Fallout or Fallout 2. After playing a little bit of it however I am delighted to say it retains the same kind of dark humor that the originals had.


The graphics are well done. It was breathtaking to see the world after leaving the first area. I also love the non-linear gameplay. The first thing I did when I left the first area was explore a little bit, and I ended up going into an elementary school and spent a half hour trying to stay alive as raiders were hunting me down. I was lucky and got a sledgehammer off of one of them, leveled up, put all of my points into my sneak skill. I then proceeded to sneak up behind other raiders and smack them with my hammer for instant critical hits!


I appreciate that they left the ATS system in as well. In Fallout 3 you have a bar that represents "Action Points" of sorts. These points can be used to aim your weapon at certain parts of the enemies body. I will usually fire off some bullets in this manner (Always at the enemies head. ALWAYS!) then duck behind something until the gauge recharges again. I had a bad run in with a Mini-gun wielding Super Mutant, and 3 Action gauges and 7 Grenades later, the mini-gun is mine.


The other thing I really like in the game is the choices the game throws at you. I walked into a town where a huge bomb was sitting, and I told the Sheriff I was willing to help disarm it. (It was a nuke that had not gone off....yet) Upon talking to some other town folk I ran into a man that gave me an item and asked me to ACTIVATE the bomb and blow the town up. I am trying to have good karma, so I went and told the sheriff about it and saved the town. (I got some weapons and a key to get some extra loot from it)


My brother however decided to go ahead and blow the town up, lowering his Karma but also getting a freaking Robot Butler that makes him purified water! (I swear being bad sometimes DOES get you farther)


My only complaint about the game is that at times it can be TOO morbid. When you make a decision you feel is the right thing to do, sometimes it turns out that while you made the right decision it ultimately ended in the death of the person you were trying to save, while being a jerk may have prevented the death from happening.


The game reminded me a lot of the book "The Road." I even ran into a young boy who was looking for his father that he had been traveling with and had lost track of. I sat there for a few minutes thinking about the book, the movie being made, and how Viggo Mortensen now has to wait until NEXT year for an Oscar nod for Best Actor. (I have heard he is amazing in the film)

Awesome game, and probably the one I will be playing until the World of Warcraft expansion comes out on the 13th.

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quote:
Originally posted by blindsay:

My brother however decided to go ahead and blow the town up, lowering his Karma but also getting a freaking Robot Butler that makes him purified water! (I swear being bad sometimes DOES get you farther)

Well i have had perfect Karma so far, i also have a house and a robot butler that makes me purified water and tells me jokes( What did the two cannibals say two each other when they were eating a clown? Does this taste funny to you? HA)so you may not have gone far enough, or made some bad choices. But remember your brother can never do a mission to that town again!
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This game looks pretty good to me. I still haven't managed to get into any role playing games since "Hero's Quest" but this one might have enough FPS characteristics to get me into it. The gameplay looks pretty darn good.

The video review I watched - on gamespot.com I think - kept going on and on about how the slow motion kills related to the VATS system were extremely satisfying. I started feeling dirty about liking to play violent video games. But then I blew up a few zombies in Half Life 2 and felt better.

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I too have played the original Fallouts, FO3 has definitely captured the atmosphere and feel of the game. There is dark humor, but I haven't seen the silliness that was also in the original FOs.

I am still very impressed with how they have allowed those who prefer real time combat and those who prefer the classic turn based system of FO to both enjoy their game. I'm actually more a fan of the VATS (Vault-tec Assisted Targeting System) system. I love that if I'm spotted I can run into the shadows, hide, and then as they round the corner freeze things and decide how I want to attack them.

Currently my avatar is an Asian chic who is good at sneaking, lock picking, and small guns. She doesn't take crap from bullies, but generally tries to help those in need. She also has a propensity for stealing what she can while nobody is looking. This does funny things with my karma.

She is deliciously complicated, and I am not even certain exactly how she will ultimately turn out.

edit: Also the skill system is completely different than Oblivion. You don't skill up by simply doing the tasks over and over. If you successfully kill somebody you get exp, if you lock pick a chest you can get exp, if you hack a console, you get exp, if you complete quests you get exp. After you achieve X amount of exp you level up which gives you skill points to allocate as well as a perk. I love that I don't have to leap about like an idiot just to skill up my agility. I believe you can also completely reset your skill points and reallocate them when you level. This isn't true of your stats.

edited for grammar.

[ October 30, 2008, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: BlackBlade ]

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" She also has a propensity for stealing what she can when nobody is looking. This does funny things with my karma."

OK, Sybil.

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You young Fallout scrappers, talking about killing a whole town with a nuclear bomb! Bah! In my day I murdered every living thing in three cities with a sledgehammer and was damned grateful for it. It weren't even a fancy-pants "super sledge" neither, cuz my character's too dumb and unlikeable to be able to barter for one! No, not even after hauling every item off every person in three cities to other cities to trade for bottlecaps and high-value light-weight drugs, to then haul to the guy with the super sledge and he still wouldn't trade it to me for all the bottlecaps and drugs that every other living merchant in the game had! Whippersnappers! Get off my barren irradiated lawn!

--Enigmatic

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